What Training Have You Done Today?

General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
deadlifting265
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by deadlifting265 » August 21st, 2024, 3:43 pm

21/8/24(Wed)

30mins/20mins/10mins(2)

60mins-16040m-1.52.2-R21-248w

30-8001m-1.52.4-R21-246w

20-5339m-1.52.3-R21-247w

10-2699m-1.51.1-R21-255w

Inspired by Stu and wanting to do an hour(ish) Ut1 type session, I thought I would give this a go.

Ridiculously muggy in the gym, sweating after 7mins of the 30, so HR a touch higher as well.

The problem with only training 4xweekly is every session is basically 95%+ effort and that is extremely hard to do, especially as a drug-free masters amatuer, thus we were both still fatigued from Mon's 500m session.

Normally one would only train this hard twice weekly and the rest would be basebuilding/rec sessions, but hey ho the linear progression has been working although naturally is slowing down.

Would expect for the same percieved effort on a more recovered day and in the actual erg room which is ventilated to be around a split quicker.

Machine shoulder press and incline dumbbell press after.....

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by dabatey » August 21st, 2024, 4:02 pm

Wolverine plan Week 1
L1 Intervals - 4 x 1000 r6
Aim was 1.59/1.58/1.58/1.57

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
15:42.0 4,000m 1:57.7 214 1037 32 165
3:57.7 1,000m 1:58.8 208 1017 33 160
3:55.6 1,000m 1:57.8 214 1036 31 164
3:55.2 1,000m 1:57.6 215 1040 31 168
3:53.5 1,000m 1:56.7 220 1056 34 168
r2,155m

Had to shorten stroke a fair bit and pull 34 spm to reach my target for the last interval.
Age 52....Weight 61 Kg....
Row 26 Aug 21 to Mar 22. Cycle Mar 22 to Jun 24. Now mixing the 2.
2K 8.02.3 (23 Oct 21)...7.37.0(15 Mar 22)
5K 22.14 (2 Oct 21)
Resting HR 45 (was 48 in 2021)....Max HR (Seen) 182 [185 cycling]

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by GloryQS » August 21st, 2024, 4:54 pm

21-8-2024
male 35, 80 kg, 182cm (~6ft)

4x1000r3:30 to find my 2k target. Goal was to keep it under 1:50. Standing start with first one, flying starts with the rest.

1:49.2 t30
1:49.5 t29
1:49.7 t29
1:49.3 t30

Got a little conservative with the 3rd one because I was getting nervous. Definitely felt that my heart+lungs were the limiting factor; no lactate pain. Overall very happy and will be targeting a sub 7:20 2k.

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by contdrift86 » August 21st, 2024, 10:10 pm

Hey all, long time no post. Lot's been happening around the traps for me with work, family, and rugby (5 weeks away in the last 8) which has meant training is almost non-existant.
Going to start again today with some base work as I think I've got a long period of time at home over at least the next 2 months. Might try and have a crack at the CTC and TOC as well this weekend, just to test where the fitness is, I've still be running around during a game but apart from that over the last little while it's been very sporadic.

Hope everyone is well.
37 6’1 HW Male
100m - 00:16.7 - Oct-23
500m - 01:32.7 - Jan-24
1km - 03:21.1 - Mar-24
2km - 06:49.8 - Apr-24
5km - 18:20.4 - Feb-24
10km - 37:58.8 - Nov-23
HM - 1: 26:57.5 - Nov-23
30R20 - 7670 - Nov-23
60 mins - 15038 - Feb-24

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » August 22nd, 2024, 2:48 am

deadlifting265 wrote:
August 21st, 2024, 3:43 pm
21/8/24(Wed)

30mins/20mins/10mins(2)

60mins-16040m-1.52.2-R21-248w

30-8001m-1.52.4-R21-246w

20-5339m-1.52.3-R21-247w

10-2699m-1.51.1-R21-255w

Inspired by Stu and wanting to do an hour(ish) Ut1 type session, I thought I would give this a go.

Ridiculously muggy in the gym, sweating after 7mins of the 30, so HR a touch higher as well.

The problem with only training 4xweekly is every session is basically 95%+ effort and that is extremely hard to do, especially as a drug-free masters amatuer, thus we were both still fatigued from Mon's 500m session.

Normally one would only train this hard twice weekly and the rest would be basebuilding/rec sessions, but hey ho the linear progression has been working although naturally is slowing down.

Would expect for the same percieved effort on a more recovered day and in the actual erg room which is ventilated to be around a split quicker.

Machine shoulder press and incline dumbbell press after.....
That's a very strong result. There's zero chance that I could maintain those paces at r21.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » August 22nd, 2024, 2:50 am

contdrift86 wrote:
August 21st, 2024, 10:10 pm
Hey all, long time no post. Lot's been happening around the traps for me with work, family, and rugby (5 weeks away in the last 8) which has meant training is almost non-existant.
Going to start again today with some base work as I think I've got a long period of time at home over at least the next 2 months. Might try and have a crack at the CTC and TOC as well this weekend, just to test where the fitness is, I've still be running around during a game but apart from that over the last little while it's been very sporadic.

Hope everyone is well.
Welcome back Oliver. I'll be interested to see how you cope with the two challenges. Rugby is a good alternative when not rowing, but it's obviously not ideal
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

Instagram: stuwenman

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by alex9026 » August 22nd, 2024, 5:21 am

Dutch wrote:
August 21st, 2024, 11:17 am
Thanks for the link alex, lots to read lol
Ha, honestly the first few pages will suffice, I think I recall a little training block example being in there.
Dangerscouse wrote:
August 21st, 2024, 10:34 am
That's a solid 20k and you're good for a 8100m+ 30r20. If I can do it, you definitely can.

Don't underestimate how much that 6k r20 at 1:51 will have taken out of you too.
Thanks Stu, in my running and cycling days I favoured/was stronger at the long distances relative to the short fast stuff, I can see my Erg'ing going the same way if my calf and foot continue to behave. Quite enjoyed yesterday.
34 6'2 89kg
1min 368 500m 1:26 2k 6:24 5k 17:27

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by contdrift86 » August 22nd, 2024, 5:26 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
August 22nd, 2024, 2:50 am
contdrift86 wrote:
August 21st, 2024, 10:10 pm
Hey all, long time no post. Lot's been happening around the traps for me with work, family, and rugby (5 weeks away in the last 8) which has meant training is almost non-existant.
Going to start again today with some base work as I think I've got a long period of time at home over at least the next 2 months. Might try and have a crack at the CTC and TOC as well this weekend, just to test where the fitness is, I've still be running around during a game but apart from that over the last little while it's been very sporadic.

Hope everyone is well.
Welcome back Oliver. I'll be interested to see how you cope with the two challenges. Rugby is a good alternative when not rowing, but it's obviously not ideal
Thanks Stu, hopefully I can have a decent "off season" depending on how many international trips I get over the next few months.
Rowing is the alternative to be honest, the rowing is to stay fit for that. It's easy that I enjoy it and can zone out whilst doing it, just need to work on some rowing fitness back as well.
37 6’1 HW Male
100m - 00:16.7 - Oct-23
500m - 01:32.7 - Jan-24
1km - 03:21.1 - Mar-24
2km - 06:49.8 - Apr-24
5km - 18:20.4 - Feb-24
10km - 37:58.8 - Nov-23
HM - 1: 26:57.5 - Nov-23
30R20 - 7670 - Nov-23
60 mins - 15038 - Feb-24

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » August 22nd, 2024, 5:37 am

contdrift86 wrote:
August 22nd, 2024, 5:26 am
Thanks Stu, hopefully I can have a decent "off season" depending on how many international trips I get over the next few months.
Rowing is the alternative to be honest, the rowing is to stay fit for that. It's easy that I enjoy it and can zone out whilst doing it, just need to work on some rowing fitness back as well.
I didn't realise at what level of rugby you played at, which must be really good if there's international matches
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by alex9026 » August 22nd, 2024, 10:52 am

1:03:15.0 16,000m 1:58.5 210 1022 20
15:54.1 4,000m 1:59.2 206 1010 20
15:49.5 8,000m 1:58.6 209 1020 20
15:47.2 12,000m 1:58.4 211 1025 20
15:44.2 16,000m 1:58.0 213 1032 20

Some more metres in the bank between night shifts. Put my interval work back to the weekend, allows me to hit them fresh.
34 6'2 89kg
1min 368 500m 1:26 2k 6:24 5k 17:27

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dutch » August 22nd, 2024, 12:33 pm

Dangerscouse wrote:
August 22nd, 2024, 2:48 am
deadlifting265 wrote:
August 21st, 2024, 3:43 pm
21/8/24(Wed)

30mins/20mins/10mins(2)

60mins-16040m-1.52.2-R21-248w

30-8001m-1.52.4-R21-246w

20-5339m-1.52.3-R21-247w

10-2699m-1.51.1-R21-255w

Inspired by Stu and wanting to do an hour(ish) Ut1 type session, I thought I would give this a go.

Ridiculously muggy in the gym, sweating after 7mins of the 30, so HR a touch higher as well.

The problem with only training 4xweekly is every session is basically 95%+ effort and that is extremely hard to do, especially as a drug-free masters amatuer, thus we were both still fatigued from Mon's 500m session.

Normally one would only train this hard twice weekly and the rest would be basebuilding/rec sessions, but hey ho the linear progression has been working although naturally is slowing down.

Would expect for the same percieved effort on a more recovered day and in the actual erg room which is ventilated to be around a split quicker.

Machine shoulder press and incline dumbbell press after.....
That's a very strong result. There's zero chance that I could maintain those paces at r21.
Lol I looked at this yesterday and thought it was a 2 hr session, I now see its an hour :?
Age 54, 185cm 79kg

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dutch » August 22nd, 2024, 12:36 pm

alex9026 wrote:
August 22nd, 2024, 5:21 am
Dutch wrote:
August 21st, 2024, 11:17 am
Thanks for the link alex, lots to read lol
Ha, honestly the first few pages will suffice, I think I recall a little training block example being in there.
Dangerscouse wrote:
August 21st, 2024, 10:34 am
That's a solid 20k and you're good for a 8100m+ 30r20. If I can do it, you definitely can.

Don't underestimate how much that 6k r20 at 1:51 will have taken out of you too.
Thanks Stu, in my running and cycling days I favoured/was stronger at the long distances relative to the short fast stuff, I can see my Erg'ing going the same way if my calf and foot continue to behave. Quite enjoyed yesterday.
Found the training block, I'm doing bottom up, top down looks interesting. Might try it for 1k. Some of the wattage numbers are unreal lol I reckon I might be able to pull 800 tops with specific training for 100m but 750 more likely. Read 16 pages, that was enough. I did learn that deadlifts prob have more carry over than squats for rowing.
Age 54, 185cm 79kg

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by winniewinser » August 22nd, 2024, 12:46 pm

BPP W14S3 4x8'/2'r...target 2:01.9/R22....increase pace.

Felt well in control and mostly zone 3 so a good base session. New Coospo HRM working well.

32:00.0 7,909m 2:01.3 196 973 22
8:00.0 1,975m 2:01.5 195 971 22
8:00.0 1,976m 2:01.4 195 972 22
8:00.0 1,978m 2:01.3 196 974 22
8:00.0 1,981m 2:01.1 197 977 22

How much do people pay attention to fitness stats from the likes of Garmin? Currently has me 'maintaining' fitness but 4-5 sessions a week is more than enough if 2 if those are pacy.
6'2" 52yo
Alex
Recent 2k - 7:19
All time 2k - 6:50.2 (LW)

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by deadlifting265 » August 22nd, 2024, 12:54 pm

Dangerscouse wrote:
August 22nd, 2024, 2:48 am
deadlifting265 wrote:
August 21st, 2024, 3:43 pm
21/8/24(Wed)

30mins/20mins/10mins(2)

60mins-16040m-1.52.2-R21-248w

30-8001m-1.52.4-R21-246w

20-5339m-1.52.3-R21-247w

10-2699m-1.51.1-R21-255w

Inspired by Stu and wanting to do an hour(ish) Ut1 type session, I thought I would give this a go.

Ridiculously muggy in the gym, sweating after 7mins of the 30, so HR a touch higher as well.

The problem with only training 4xweekly is every session is basically 95%+ effort and that is extremely hard to do, especially as a drug-free masters amatuer, thus we were both still fatigued from Mon's 500m session.

Normally one would only train this hard twice weekly and the rest would be basebuilding/rec sessions, but hey ho the linear progression has been working although naturally is slowing down.

Would expect for the same percieved effort on a more recovered day and in the actual erg room which is ventilated to be around a split quicker.

Machine shoulder press and incline dumbbell press after.....
That's a very strong result. There's zero chance that I could maintain those paces at r21.
It's a session I hadn't done before and will prob do again....although we will be cutting down on the volume :lol: and doing more 2km prep work in the next two weeks.

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » August 22nd, 2024, 1:01 pm

Dutch wrote:
August 22nd, 2024, 12:33 pm
Lol I looked at this yesterday and thought it was a 2 hr session, I now see its an hour :?
Ah, that makes sense now as I was wondering...
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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