Dwayne Posted As Missing In Action

[[old] michaelb]

Chad, if you have evidence that questions the integrity of the USIRT process from the years 2002-2004, let us hear what you have. You have no credibility until you offer up some proof.<br /><br />I found MikeC's post very interesting in the previous thread. However, I think there is a significant difference between calling for an athlete to proof their performance in a competition, and calling them a cheat and fraud. Dwayne hasn't won anything or claimed to have won anything. He is not the fastest 40 year old heavyweight in the world, since he did not race at the crash-bs. I have always supported calls for Dwayne to come out and race. But I do that because I think it would be good for the sport, not because there is any evidence that he is cheating or a fraud.

[[old] H_2O]

<!--quoteo(post=58089:date=Mar 2 2006, 10:00 AM:name=FrancoisA)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(FrancoisA @ Mar 2 2006, 10:00 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>This is not how it works in sports... </td></tr></table><br /><br />But it has now moved beyond this.<br />Chad says that he has the proof. He is not doubting Dwayne he flatly says Dwayne is a fraud.<br />I doubt Dwayne's 5:46 row with stroke rates as described but I leave open the possibility that I am wrong<br />(though extremely unlikely).<br /><br />Chad says that it is <b>a proven fact</b> that Dwayne is a fraud.<br />One should say so only once one is able to present the proof.

[[old] Chad Williams]

Why paint over what I know. I have information that allows me to make these “accusations”. You see them as accusations but to me they are facts and I have information proving it.<br /><br />The USIRT was in its early years, open to abuse, a lot of lessons have been learnt and things have now moved on for the better, as what happened before has not happened again. I can never see Dwayne racing under USIRT again, the only way he will is by rowing a satellite regatta which is a public event and he beats the qualify standard.<br /><br />

[[old] FrancoisA]

<!--quoteo(post=58017:date=Mar 2 2006, 02:05 AM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Mar 2 2006, 02:05 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=58013:date=Mar 1 2006, 08:46 PM:name=dadams)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dadams @ Mar 1 2006, 08:46 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->His only races take place on water, in a double with a 60-year-old of indeterminate talent for a partner, thereby conveniently diluting his performance. </td></tr></table><br /><br />Let me tell you something right now folks. You can drag me into this thing as much as you like. But <b>do not</b> drag my doubles partner into this. FYI - His 2k time this year ranks him 8th in the world (for more info, go to riosaladorowing.org - AIRC results - Ted Noyes). So he's hardly indeterminate as a talent. In fact a much better sculler than I am. So blow that crap right out your arse.<br /><br />Sorry for my outburst...you may continue my thrashing. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />And, in his age/weight class, Stupefaction would be ranked tied for #53 (assuming age 19-29, LW).<br /><br />So, Ted Noyes, the indeterminate talent, kicks Stupe's tail.<br /><br /> <br /> </td></tr></table><br />How do <b>you</b> rank Mark with your 7:19 ? <br />Should we just leave this discussion exclusively to the top performers, many of which, incidentally question Dwayne's performance?<br /><br />Also, I don't think it is good sportsmanship to consider Andreas challenging Dwayne to race him on the erg in Boston as the same as Dwayne challenging Andreas to race on water at the World Masters Game in Edmonton. First, both Andreas and Dwayne are top ergers, so Andreas' challenge to Dwayne is perfectly legitimate. Andreas in not an on water rower, so Dwayne's challenge to Andreas does not make sense. Second, the last time I look at the map, Edmonton was much closer to Phoenix Arizona, where Dwayne lives, than to South Africa, where Andreas lives. Why on earth would Andreas come that far to race someone in an event in for which he doesn't train? It is as if you were challenging me to race you in Boston on the erg and I would challenge you instead to come to Montreal this summer and race against me in the 1500m swim event! <br /><br />Just my 2 cents.<br /><br />Francois

[[old] mpukita]

<!--quoteo(post=58095:date=Mar 2 2006, 10:38 AM:name=FrancoisA)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(FrancoisA @ Mar 2 2006, 10:38 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>How do <b>you</b> rank Mark with your 7:19 ? <br />Should we just leave this discussion exclusively to the top performers, many of which, incidentally question Dwayne's performance?<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Francois:<br /><br />I was just using this is an example for Stupe, since he was busting on someone he doesn't know, that's all. You know I have no care for how fast or how slow someone is ... I'm just glad they're active and participating ... and maybe getting better along the way.<br /><br />Now that you ask, let me go take a look ... I haven't even thought of looking at where I "rank" because my time is pretty "rank" ...<br /><br /> <br /><br />#83, but more likely #183, as I know many fast rowers don't rank their scores. I see them at the venue races. Fast ... but they must be allergic to the Internet!<br /><br />-- Mark<br /><br /><br />Francois:<br /><br />Any chance you're rowing at Ridley this weekend? ... Ontario Erg Championships? I'd love to meet.<br /><br />Regards ... Mark

[[old] FrancoisA]

<!--quoteo(post=58091:date=Mar 2 2006, 03:16 PM:name=H_2O)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(H_2O @ Mar 2 2006, 03:16 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=58089:date=Mar 2 2006, 10:00 AM:name=FrancoisA)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(FrancoisA @ Mar 2 2006, 10:00 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>This is not how it works in sports... </td></tr></table><br /><br />But it has now moved beyond this.<br />Chad says that he has the proof. He is not doubting Dwayne he flatly says Dwayne is a fraud.<br />I doubt Dwayne's 5:46 row with stroke rates as described but I leave open the possibility that I am wrong<br />(though extremely unlikely).<br /><br />Chad says that it is <b>a proven fact</b> that Dwayne is a fraud.<br />One should say so only once one is able to present the proof.<br /> </td></tr></table><br />I agree, and I already said that it was wrong to call Dwayne a fraud. All I am defending here is the right to question someone's alleged exceptional performance when that person has never performed close to his PBs at a sanctioned public race.<br /><br />If I were to tell you that I have proved the Riemann Hypothesis, it would be legitimate for you to ask me to show it! <br /><br />Cheers!<br /><br />Francois

[[old] Andreas]

<!--quoteo(post=58083:date=Mar 2 2006, 09:53 AM:name=michaelb)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(michaelb @ Mar 2 2006, 09:53 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Now we may be on to something, because I think you are wrong. Twice the USIRT announced the results of its qualifying trials and the make up of the team, including Dwayne Adams and his qualifying times, on the old forum. My understanding of the qualifying process at the time was that they were not generally done at regattas, but were done scheduled before a USIRT official.<br /><br />Do you have evidence that the USIRT mislead us about those qualifying trials, or that somehow Dwayne Adams fooled the USIRT official who witnessed his trials?<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />This is exactly the problem and I adressed this issue last year already.C2 did believe DA claims because nobody (not even all you guys) thought that someone will lie about their times and it never happened before, so why would C2 not believe someone.<br />Since then C2 has change the selection method and try to purify the Ranking(thats why the PM3 got the verification code). Now its even a bigger problem because now they have to believe the PM3, but I learned that you dont even have to get on the machine to be able to con the PM3(with computer knowlegge).<br />Why was DA not selected again and why will he not be selected ever again????????<br />The best indoor rower, by a long way ,in the 40+ category on the planet(and neighbouring planets for that matter) post his time late for selection and said :" no hard feeling" for not being selected.........<br /><br />Absolutlly absurd!!!!!!<br />DA has started living a lie and there is no where out!!<br />

[[old] FrancoisA]

<!--quoteo(post=58100:date=Mar 2 2006, 03:52 PM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Mar 2 2006, 03:52 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Francois:<br /><br />Any chance you're rowing at Ridley this weekend? ... Ontario Erg Championships? I'd love to meet.<br /><br />Regards ... Mark<br /> </td></tr></table><br />Unfortunately, no. Since I hurt my back in late December, I have been erging sporadically until recently. I am already thinking about next year CIRC though, and hope to qualify for a free trip to Boston! I think the qualifying time was around 6:40, which is within reach.<br />I'd love to meet you too! It will happen eventually!<br /><br />Cheers,<br /><br />Francois

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--quoteo(post=58026:date=Mar 1 2006, 07:17 PM:name=stupefaction)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(stupefaction @ Mar 1 2006, 07:17 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->Now that you have identified him as Ted Noyes, who pulled a very nice 6:54.7 recently, I have a better idea of who he is. </td></tr></table><br /><!--quoteo(post=58013:date=Mar 1 2006, 08:46 PM:name=dadams)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(dadams @ Mar 1 2006, 08:46 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quotec-->he's hardly indeterminate as a talent. In fact a much better sculler than I am. </td></tr></table><br /><br />Dwayne challenged Andreas to a race "on the water" as proof of his erg times.<br /><br />However, Dwayne admits a 6:54.7 is "much better" than anything he can do.<br /><br /><br />

[[old] hjs]

<!--quoteo(post=58029:date=Mar 2 2006, 04:46 AM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Mar 2 2006, 04:46 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=58026:date=Mar 1 2006, 10:17 PM:name=stupefaction)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(stupefaction @ Mar 1 2006, 10:17 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>All in all, I consider your participation in the Masters Worlds and other rowing regattas to be irrelevant to your erging claims. Well, there is some relevance, but it argues against your case. If you can take the trouble to haul your boat and oars to all these regattas, why can't you get to any public erg race to show off your mighty pullilng power? I know what Ted Noyes did on the erg at the Arizona Indoors. Where were you?<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Two questions:<br /><br />Who cares what you consider to be "irrelavent"?<br /><br />... and ...<br /><br />What "case"? <br /><br />There is no "case". Just some moron making disparaging remarks and insinuations, with no evidence.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br /><br />Mark,<br /><br />You are not the juge for that, if people find it a case it is. Everybody is entiteled of there opinion And that you don,t like that opinion is of no relevance at all.<br />

[[old] mpukita]

<!--quoteo(post=58102:date=Mar 2 2006, 11:02 AM:name=Andreas)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Andreas @ Mar 2 2006, 11:02 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Since then C2 has change the selection method and try to purify the Ranking(thats why the PM3 got the verification code). Now its even a bigger problem because now they have to believe the PM3, but I learned that you dont even have to get on the machine to be able to con the PM3(with computer knowlegge).<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Andreas:<br /><br />Please do not believe what you've read here about how easy it is to "fool" the PM3. The encryption they use for the piece records is robust, virtually unbreakable (not easy decoded ... almost impossible).<br /><br />While someone could fool the PM3 using a drill, as mentioned, so it's theoretically possible, it is <b>highly unlikely</b>. Every time someone suggests this, they also come back with a, "Wait, that wouldn't work because _____ (you fill in the blank)." <br /><br />On this topic, there are too many amateur conspiracy theorists, who know just enough about technology to be dangerous.<br /><br />The "five strong men can row a team relay as one piece" could work, but we've also seen the problems with that. Who could Dwayne get to do that, at the times mentioned? You weren't part of his "Team of Deceit" were you?<br /><br /> <br /><br />-- Mark<br /><br /><br /><!--quoteo(post=58102:date=Mar 2 2006, 11:02 AM:name=Andreas)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Andreas @ Mar 2 2006, 11:02 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>DA has started living a lie and there is no where out!!<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />OK, so now we all know where Andreas stands on this matter. He's showed his hand. Andreas is really "Chad".<br /><br /> <br /><br />Just joking Andreas ... I know you're not Chad, you're really John Rupp!<br /><br /> <br />

[[old] Chad Williams]

Why do you think I am someone else or other people are me? I am just Chad, thats it!!<br /><br /><br />See, here you go again Mark. Questions and statements you can't answer so you turn into a giggling school boy.<br /><br />What do you have to say about what was stated above regarding USIRT, let me guess…………..”so”<br /><br />

[[old] mpukita]

<!--quoteo(post=58112:date=Mar 2 2006, 11:30 AM:name=Chad Williams)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Mar 2 2006, 11:30 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Why do you think I am someone else or other people are me? I am just Chad, thats it!!<br /><br />See, here you go again Mark. Questions and statements you can't answer so you turn into a giggling school boy.<br /><br />What do you have to say about what was stated above regarding USIRT, let me guess…………..”so”<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />No, I would say, "So what?"<br /><br /> <br /><br />However, news flash here, I just took a phone call. <br /><br />I now have evidence that you are not a real person as "Chad" ... you're "Chad" personna is a pseudonym for someone else here. That's why you won't row at Evesham, because you'd have to "blow your cover" before the "unveiling" of your new stroke and training at BIRC. The problem is, someone close to you could not keep a secret. But now I know, and I have evidence.<br /><br /> <br /><br /><br /><!--quoteo(post=58109:date=Mar 2 2006, 11:25 AM:name=hjs)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(hjs @ Mar 2 2006, 11:25 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>You are not the juge for that, if people find it a case it is. Everybody is entiteled of there opinion And that you don,t like that opinion is of no relevance at all.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />WAIT! DOUBLE STANDARD ALERT!<br /><br />If he can be judgemental, why can't I be the judge? or ... Magistrate? or ... Special Master?<br /><br />I never said he wasn't entitled to an opinion, just that his opinion is flawed, in my opinion.<br /><br /> <br />

[[old] Chad Williams]

You are a silly little man. I wash my hands with you. You have just proved what a fool you are……………………….again!!<br /><br />

[[old] PaulS]

<!--quoteo(post=58118:date=Mar 2 2006, 08:39 AM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Mar 2 2006, 08:39 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>However, news flash here, I just took a phone call. <br /><br />I now have evidence that you are not a real person as "Chad" ... you're "Chad" personna is a pseudonym for someone else here. That's why you won't row at Evesham, because you'd have to "blow your cover" before the "unveiling" of your new stroke and training at BIRC. The problem is, someone close to you could not keep a secret. But now I know, and I have evidence.<br /><br /> <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Okay Mark, then post your evidence. Don't be part of the same old problem...