Ranger's training thread

[ranger]

10k at 1.57.98. OTE

Given your fitness, which has been maximal now for years and years, the _speed_ of your training is irrelevant.

What is significant is the quality of your rowing/stroking, your technique, your effectiveness and efficiency while rowing.

Given your excellent fitness, that's what will make you fast(-er, -est) in a 2K.

ranger

[ranger]

I am pretty sure that even if you do a FM in 1:48, almost everybody on here will still think you are a lying douche bag

Yea.

Probably.

Which is _really_ a comment on this forum, no?

The normal decline with age among veterans is four seconds per 500m per decade.

Given what I did for a FM 10 years ago (1:54), done now, ten years later, a FM @ 1:48 would best expectations by 10 seconds per 500m.

That's a pretty good show, no?

10 years ago I had three straight WR 2K rows.

Sorry.

But if I now pull a FM @ 1:48, which predicts a 6:16/1:34 2K, there is only one reasonable conclusion:

The training I have done over the last ten years has been the best in the history of the sport, and, hands down, by a country mile, I have the best coach in the world.

ranger

[ranger]

If I now pull a FM @ 1:48, the whole affair will be so unprecedented that it will be ridiculous.

Gobsmacking stuff.

ranger

[Citroen]

If I now pull a FM @ 1:48, the whole affair will be so unprecedented that it will be ridiculous.

Gobsmacking stuff.

ranger

But you still haven't explained why you struggled to get 1:46 for 2000m, you still haven't explained why you can't row more than 5000m at 1:48 (you can't row a FM at that pace). So there's a massive "IF I NOW" component in your assertation that most of us read as "I'LL NEVER". That makes the rest of the statement "[then], the whole affair ..." into complete and utter nonsense.

You're washed up, give up posting the bullshit, nobody believes it, you don't even believe it - it's now just a boring cut'n'paste job from yesterday's bullshit (or the day before or the day before that, ad nauseum).

[snowleopard]

I am pretty sure that even if you do a FM in 1:48, almost everybody on here will still think you are a lying douche bag

Yea.

Probably.

Which is _really_ a comment on this forum, no?

No, it's simply a comment on your inability to face reality and your inability to tell the truth.

Incidentally, when I spoke to the hotel about your nocturnal rambling they said a night porter had been approached by an escapee from the set of "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest". Said individual was dribbling, wearing a lopsided grin, sporting a comb-over and carrying a sports bag. They called security.

[mikvan52]

A lot of physical activity is just my habit.

I have been doing it in one way or another, pretty much every day, throughout my life.

Physical fitness is my family's business.

Both of my parents were physical educators.

My brother is one of the most accomplished physical educators of his generation.

My father invented the whole business, scientifically and otherwise.

He is in the swimming hall of fame.

I was a speed skater for 10 years as a child.

I was a three sport athlete (cross country, swimming, track) throughout my 10 or so middle school, high school, and college years.

In my teens and early 20s, I raced canoes in the summers for 15 years.

As a young adult (20-45), I was a marathon runner for 25 years.

I have now been rowing for 10 years.

I don't think that my physical habits will change anytime soon.

I'll be doing it for the rest of my life, which could be as much as another 40 years.

ranger

So very right! "could be as much as 40 years" (!)
...or 40 seconds
...or, even, 6:16

But, in the meantime, I'm going to frame the auto-biography above and tack it up above my erg as a reminder about true greatness!!

Wow!
It's hereditary.
Were all your ancestors accorded similar commemorative awards? Did all patriarchs in your family play the lyre?
http://www.photographersdirect.com/buye ... eid=652567

I don't want to lose sight of the gem contained in this post.
A veil of ignorance has been torn from my eyes. Because of you, ranger, I now see....
No need to keep on doing anything! => just recite the deeds of the dead.... or whip out the varsity letter sweater and fire up the flux capacitor.



"Hey Ma! Look what I used to do. Ain't I great!!

request:
Please elaborate on the "whole business" thingy... I stand transfixed!

[snowleopard]

My brother is one of the most accomplished physical educators of his generation.

Strange then that you have never bothered to have your VO2 max, training bands, max HR etc etc professionally assessed. Tricky Dicky, always running from the truth

[ranger]

Hey, Roy.

Are you now doing a nice 2:00 @ 23 spm (8.6 SPI) in your single?

If so....cool.

Mike VB doesn't do anything of the sort.

He pulls 2:00 @ 29 spm (7 SPI), etc.

Pathetic stuff!

ranger

[ranger]

My brother is one of the most accomplished physical educators of his generation.

Strange then that you have never bothered to have your VO2 max, training bands, max HR etc etc professionally assessed. Tricky Dicky, always running from the truth

VO2max can be read right off your 2K.

When I pulled 6:28 at 160 lbs., at 52 years old, my VO2max was 75.

ranger

[lancs]

If I now pull a FM @ 1:48, the whole affair will be so unprecedented that it will be ridiculous.

I'd agree with your statement here. Absolutely. Particularly as you are unable to row past 5k at 1:48 pace. That's what will make your FM @1:48 so special....

[snowleopard]

VO2max can be read right off your 2K.

It can't. That only yields an approximation. Any why are you referring to a performance of *nine* years ago

Your last 2K was a 7:02 and change. What VO2 max is that?

[ranger]

When I pull 6:16 at 60 and 160 lbs., my VO2max will be 78.5.

Anything better than 37 is "excellent" for a 60-year-old.

Because of my poor technique back in 2003, the VO2max calculator underestimated my VO2max at the time.

If I had been rowing well at low drag, I would have been 7 seconds per 500m faster over 2K.

So, my VO2max at the time was really 84.5.

During his Tour years, Lance Armstrong had a VO2max of 85.

ranger

[mrfit]

Because of my poor technique back in 2003, the VO2max calculator underestimated my VO2max at the time.
ranger

Maybe it just needed new batteries?

[bellboy]

When I pull 6:16 at 60 and 160 lbs., my VO2max will be 78.5.

Anything better than 37 is "excellent" for a 60-year-old.

Because of my poor technique back in 2003, the VO2max calculator underestimated my VO2max at the time.

If I had been rowing well at low drag, I would have been 7 seconds per 500m faster over 2K.

So, my VO2max at the time was really 84.5.

During his Tour years, Lance Armstrong had a VO2max of 85.

ranger

Of course it is. Now put the sharp objects down and tell nurse it's time for your mush. If you are a good boy you can watch Matlock afterwards

[whp4]

10k at 1.57.98. OTE

Given your fitness, which has been maximal now for years and years, the _speed_ of your training is irrelevant.

What is significant is the quality of your rowing/stroking, your technique, your effectiveness and efficiency while rowing.

Given your excellent fitness, that's what will make you fast(-er, -est) in a 2K.

ranger

Nowhere in there are there any factors which could explain how you with your maximal fitness and improving technique could be getting increasingly slower with each passing season, but you are. You claim that your last race was just a paddle, but I bet you can't even post a video of an uninterrupted 2k done with HR belt at your FM pace and 75% HRR, rowing well. That's less than 5% of the distance you keep telling us you are going to do under those conditions in a month or so. No need to be an active rower to read these tea leaves!

Some other naysayers may have been wrong long ago, back when enforcement of the weigh-in rules was weak, but the current crop has been right ever since, and you appear unable to give any evidence that this trend will change.