What am I doing wrong?

[nchasan]

Look, i am not opposed to steady state training at all. In fact, i agree with you that especially endurance athletes mostly train in a steady state. But if you look at sports like soccer, for example, where there are a 1000 bouts of action, each one lasting less than 10 seconds - their training matches their activity. My WHOLE point in response to the question 'what am I doing wrong?" was to offer that interval training on the ERG would result in a significant change in performance. I went further and gave a rationale based on type II muscle formation, and the resulting glycogen depletion that results to demonstrate my point of view. The long and short of it is that to change a functional state, one needs to work harder. Period. In order to maximize that result, one needs to work as hard as one can for as long as one can, but to get to the point where you can work harder in a steady state, start by doing one minute intervals and recovering...the ERG is often used by people for long sets, but it is also used by people for short sets, like 500 m repeats. I see nothing wrong with this approach. And frankly, I do not understand the vitriolic defense of the alternative.

[hjs]

Look, i am not opposed to steady state training at all. In fact, i agree with you that especially endurance athletes mostly train in a steady state. But if you look at sports like soccer, for example, where there are a 1000 bouts of action, each one lasting less than 10 seconds - their training matches their activity. My WHOLE point in response to the question 'what am I doing wrong?" was to offer that interval training on the ERG would result in a significant change in performance. I went further and gave a rationale based on type II muscle formation, and the resulting glycogen depletion that results to demonstrate my point of view. The long and short of it is that to change a functional state, one needs to work harder. Period. In order to maximize that result, one needs to work as hard as one can for as long as one can, but to get to the point where you can work harder in a steady state, start by doing one minute intervals and recovering...the ERG is often used by people for long sets, but it is also used by people for short sets, like 500 m repeats. I see nothing wrong with this approach. And frankly, I do not understand the vitriolic defense of the alternative.

A soccer player or any onther game sporter needs to a lot of short action. But he will not be a match to a genuine runner.
You simply are wrong and really don,t know what working hard is. If I train hard on a day that is an intensity I can absolute not do every day. I do need recovery and so does every body else.
Simply working as hard as you can is not the way it works. For no one. Yes you have to work hard, but only for a small part of your training. Does that mean that the rest of the training will be easy? No, it's best to train al trainingbands.

[bloomp]

Look, i am not opposed to steady state training at all. In fact, i agree with you that especially endurance athletes mostly train in a steady state. But if you look at sports like soccer, for example, where there are a 1000 bouts of action, each one lasting less than 10 seconds - their training matches their activity. My WHOLE point in response to the question 'what am I doing wrong?" was to offer that interval training on the ERG would result in a significant change in performance. I went further and gave a rationale based on type II muscle formation, and the resulting glycogen depletion that results to demonstrate my point of view. The long and short of it is that to change a functional state, one needs to work harder. Period. In order to maximize that result, one needs to work as hard as one can for as long as one can, but to get to the point where you can work harder in a steady state, start by doing one minute intervals and recovering...the ERG is often used by people for long sets, but it is also used by people for short sets, like 500 m repeats. I see nothing wrong with this approach. And frankly, I do not understand the vitriolic defense of the alternative.

I give up.

[nchasan]

You simply are wrong and really don,t know what working hard is.

right, that why have been I teaching doctoral students at a major university since 1996 , manage the health status and fitness of a national championship rugby team and function as the sole sports science consultant to a professional multisport team...go figure...

[jamesg]

How tall are you? Your times look slowish, but of course for all of us they are tightly linked to age, sex, height and weight. What ratings do you use? Work per stroke? Power/Weight ratio?

We get our best times by pulling long fast strokes with a slow sequenced recovery (arms, swing, legs) that lets us get to the right posture for the catch. Such strokes are very hard work, so of course will get you fit, whether you do intervals of one hour or of one minute, at the appropriate ratings.

Many beginners fall into the trap of following training plans without learning to row first; but as has been said, illusions can only lead to delusion.

[hjs]

You simply are wrong and really don,t know what working hard is.

right, that why have been I teaching doctoral students at a major university since 1996 , manage the health status and fitness of a national championship rugby team and function as the sole sports science consultant to a professional multisport team...go figure...

If you say this.............

OK, so you have convinced yourself that sub-maximal exercise is the way to go. Have at it. Tune up your four cylinder engine all you want. It will always be a four cylinder engine. I on the other hand will turn my 4 cylinder engine into a 6 cylinder engine and then as 8 cylinder engine and then a 12 cylinder engine over time, and tune it up and run it all day long. The difference will be that at rest, I will burn more fat than you will. Period.

So feel free to never raise your stroke rate over 20SMN. My clinical research showed that 6 one minute bouts of maximal effort exercise, raised metabolic out put by 1000kCal per day in an n of 20 with statistical significance. Go figure.

Think this

and show results like you do .......................

Train once with me on a hard day and after that do that the rest of the week. And looking at your results, they are very very poor for an average man. Either you are very small and untalented or extreme unfit. I fear the latter, considering what you are saying/thinking. I feel very sorry for your students.