The Two Types of Training

[Carl Watts]

The boat is going to be fast because it's called the...

"Wind-up-er"

Hey finally posted a 2K, not a bad effort as it was supposed to be a 2K CD after doing a 10K and then a 2K row. Was Erging with Peter Skene so I was inspired to push myself. His first 2K was 6:33 and his CD was 6:58 ! amazing stuff.

Felt pretty good and my HR never maxed out and then I just stood up and walked away at the end so a sub 7 is coming real soon.

[hjs]

The boat is going to be fast because it's called the...

"Wind-up-er"

Hey finally posted a 2K, not a bad effort as it was supposed to be a 2K CD after doing a 10K and then a 2K row. Was Erging with Peter Skene so I was inspired to push myself. His first 2K was 6:33 and his CD was 6:58 ! amazing stuff.

Felt pretty good and my HR never maxed out and then I just stood up and walked away at the end so a sub 7 is coming real soon.

I think the boat should be called after me, after all it's my money that is going to the drain

[lancs]

I'll always be the first 50s lwt to erg sub-6:30

How many people have surpassed your WR since you set it Prof?

[ranger]

At this lower drag (135 df.), I am getting better and better length, and so my rates are dropping at the same paces, especially at lower rates.

Today, my FM stroke shifted from 1:48 @ 25 spm to 1:48 @ 24 spm.

If I can get that to 1:48 @ 23 spm, it will be perfect.

12 SPI

HR around 155 bpm, low UT1.

In 2003, I pulled 1:48 at my anaerobic threshold, 172 bpm, and 28 spm/10 SPI.

Nice progress, almost a full training band--2 SPI, 4 spm, and 17 bpm--even though I am now 7 years older.

Delighted with this.

ranger

[ranger]

I'll always be the first 50s lwt to erg sub-6:30

How many people have surpassed your WR since you set it Prof?

Have you done that slacker session, 10 x 2K (1 minute rest), 1:43 @ 29 spm (10 MPS, 11 SPI)?

Come on.

Overall, it's only 2:00 pace.

It's only rowing with breaks (RWBs)!

You don't even have to row continuously, so it's a piece of cake.

You get to rest every seven minutes!

Post the screen shot when you get it done so we can see.



If you can get it done, it predicts a 6:12 2K, a top-end UT1 of 1:43.

If you do it, you'll set the 30s lightweight British record and be better, historically, than Tom Kay, and better, at the moment, than Eskild E.

Nice!

ranger

[ranger]

I'll always be the first 50s lwt to erg sub-6:30

How many people have surpassed your WR since you set it Prof?

Other than me, no lightweight older than 50 has pulled sub-6:30, much less tried to get better once they have.

So it will be interesting to see how this all turns out.

Now, at 59, I am quite a bit better now than I was when I was 52.

And when I was 50, I wasn't even racing yet, and wasn't a lightweight.

ranger

[ranger]

I'll always be the first 50s lwt to erg sub-6:30

How many people have surpassed your WR since you set it Prof?

In almost a decade, only two, both almost three years younger than I was in 2003, and so far, by only three seconds.

Now, neither of them even pulls 6:30.

ranger

[snowleopard]

Now, neither of them even pulls 6:30.

Do you, even?

[NavigationHazard]

I'll always be the first 50s lwt to erg sub-6:30

How many people have surpassed your WR since you set it Prof?

Other than me, no lightweight older than 50 has pulled sub-6:30, much less tried to get better once they have. So it will be interesting to see how this all turns out. Now, at 59, I am quite a bit better now than I was when I was 52. And when I was 50, I wasn't even racing yet, and wasn't a lightweight.

ranger

Muppet. At a minimum there's Paul Siebach, current 50-54 MLW holder at 6:25.1. He didn't row it on his birthday. Thus he was older than 50.

As for your problem with your Peinert, perhaps you should fix the axle rather than the axel. You are attempting to learn sliding-seat rowing, not figure skating.

[nysaag]

Has Ranger paid his debts yet?

[ranger]

At a minimum there's Paul Siebach, current 50-54 MLW holder at 6:25.1

Nope.

Not 6:25.

Now, at 51 years old, Paul is at 6:31.

The decline is swift!

RANKING RESULTS 2010

Indoor Rower | Individual and Race Results | 2000m | Men's | Lightweight | Ages 50-59 | Current 2010 Season

1 Paul Siebach 51 Oakton VA USA 6:31.2 RACE

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RANKING RESULTS 2004

Indoor Rower | Individual and Race Results | 2000m | Men's | Lightweight | Ages 50-59 | 2004 Season

1 Rich CURETON 52 Ann Arbor MI USA 6:28.0 RACE

ranger

[bloomp]

I'll always be the first 50s lwt to erg sub-6:30

How many people have surpassed your WR since you set it Prof?

In almost a decade, only two, both almost three years younger than I was in 2003, and so far, by only three seconds.

Now, neither of them even pulls 6:30.

ranger

And you pull... Oh right, about a dozen seconds slower than your WR! Nowhere near sub-6:30.

[ranger]

And you pull... Oh right, about a dozen seconds slower than your WR! Nowhere near sub-6:30.

Over the last few years, I haven't been training to race, Paul.

I have been training to get better.

Even so, over the last two years, I have had the best 2K in the 55s lwts by crescendoing margins, even though am now 59.

In my training, I am just getting ready for distance trials.

I will be completely trained to race this fall, though.

Then, we'll see.

Well, actually, we'll see long before that.

Distance trials are very accurate 2K predictors.

For example, 5K is done at 2K + 5.

So a 17:00 5K predicts a 6:28 2K.

10K is done at 2K + 8.

So a 35:00 10K, predicts a 6:28 2K.

60min is done at 2K + 9.

So 17K for 60min predicts a 6:28 2K.

ranger

[mikvan52]

I am quite a bit better now than I was when I was 52.

Is "better" qualitative, quantitative, or just barking?






I think it's just troll bait

How is 6:41 "quite a bit better" than 6:28?
I assume that that's the only marker for you, the barker.....

Nice try! Look out for the hook

"20k a day OTW": you say?
What's your wawa-spi going to be? 30 spm and 2:10 pace is.... ?
{EDIT} That's not fair of me: 28 and 2:05 for only 1k is.... ?....... 6.4..... How did you lose half of your spi just by slipping into the Peinert?

(others beware.. I'm just baiting too: spi is not used for anything other than ranger banter)

[mikvan52]

Rich: I've a suggestion you might want to consider:
Post some Long_Term_ Goals_ for your OTW campaign... It would provide more interest than that of the impossible 6:16 stuff you've gone on and on about for all these years.

May I suggest:
(for the 1x)
By Sept.1 2010...... 1k in 4 minutes

By Nov.1 2011....... 5k in 22 minutes

and... (what a relief) your weight won't be an issue

I think you can achieve these two times. Do you?

May I also suggest you purchase a NK timing device. It's nice to know your boat speed relative to the water. They're easy to calibrate too... AND! You and I can squabble over the math involved in this calibration process....