2k sub 6

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Re: 2k sub 6

Post by Thetanium » May 10th, 2010, 4:51 pm

hjs wrote:
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ArmandoChavezUNC wrote:If you put LeBron James on an erg right now, quickly showed him the basics of erging, and let him do a 2k, I doubt he would go faster than 6:45 or so, which weight adjusted wouldn't be that good whatsoever.

Even if he did go faster for his weight he'd have to pull a 5:40 or so to be any good.

I was 193, 90 kg the first time I did a 2k test, with minimal preperation. And I did 6.46.7.
So there is no way that a top athlete of 110 kg 203 couldnt do more than 6:45, being trained in both aerobic and anarobic capacity.
And then you got Shaquille O'Neal 147 kg 216cm, I would be very surprised if didnt make 6 flat.
Although this isnt weight adjusted, but that wasnt the questions in the firstplace.
6.46 = 333 Watt
5.46 = 522 Watt So 56 % more.



Some like Shaquille has a very poor aerobic base, sure he has power, but even that is relative to his body not great. really big guys don,t pull a very good time on an erg.
They proberly pull a strong 500 meter, but a 2k is to far. The athletic guys who can jump and run the hole game will do a lot better.

Where do you get it from that Shaquille has to do 5:46? Its not about weight adjusted time or trying to relate this to actually rowing on the water, its "who can go sub 6?"
And even if he would have a "poor" aerobic base, he wouldnt need to challenge that too much with the height of 216cm and 147 kg moving up and down on the slides.
I saw a power-lifter/gym rat of 205cm, finishing a 2k at rate 28,time 5:58, pure power, but you cant race in a boat at that rate.

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Re: 2k sub 6

Post by hjs » May 11th, 2010, 4:46 am

Thetanium wrote:
hjs wrote:6.46 = 333 Watt
5.46 = 522 Watt So 56 % more.



Some like Shaquille has a very poor aerobic base, sure he has power, but even that is relative to his body not great. really big guys don,t pull a very good time on an erg.
They proberly pull a strong 500 meter, but a 2k is to far. The athletic guys who can jump and run the hole game will do a lot better.

Where do you get it from that Shaquille has to do 5:46? Its not about weight adjusted time or trying to relate this to actually rowing on the water, its "who can go sub 6?"
And even if he would have a "poor" aerobic base, he wouldnt need to challenge that too much with the height of 216cm and 147 kg moving up and down on the slides.
I saw a power-lifter/gym rat of 205cm, finishing a 2k at rate 28,time 5:58, pure power, but you cant race in a boat at that rate.
Just 1 minute faster.

Shaquille may be 147 kg , he is at last 25 % fat , he is not the man you shouid pick from the nba, he will not pull a sub 6 2k erg. he has trouble dunking, although he is 216. He is a poor jumper. He simply is to big and tall to be athletic. I am not trying to put him down, he simply is not a fit athlete, in any aspect.
If you can find someone 110/120 kg who can jump very well, and can keep going a hole game, you have yourself a winner.
Indeed the erg is not a boat, I am not talking about that and not about weight adjustment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDv4p0p0sZY

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