Hey,
I would greatly appreciate if you could answer these questions. Some of them are used for polls. The other questions, are needed specifically for shell design research and international views.
1.) What three makes of oars are most used in international Competition?
2.) What are the four primary oar blade shapes?
3.) What is a 'unusual' shape blade made in the USA?
4.) What are the primary parts of the oar?
5.) What are the top ten major shell builders?
6.) Which two brands of boats are most often used in international competition?
7.) What are some design considerations for building a fast rowing shell?
8.) What are some drills that would be useful for sculling? (and why?)
9.) Under what Charles River bridge do many boat crashes occur and why?
10.) What clubs make up the Schuylkill Navy?
11.) What dimensions does each part have for rigging: (what are they? how are the dimensions determined?)
Oarlock Height
Seat Height
Footstretcher height
Footstretcher angel
Spread
Pitch
Lateral Pitch
Catch Angle
Finish Angle
Insert
Backstay
Pin
Washers
Pitch Meter
Slide Bites
Track Position
Dual Action Undercarriage
Wing Rigger
Rowing Research, Help Needed!!!
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1.) What three makes of oars are most used in international Competition?
croker, concept2,
2.) What are the four primary oar blade shapes?
smoothie, chopper, spoon,fatboy
3.) What is a 'unusual' shape blade made in the USA?
4.) What are the primary parts of the oar?
handle shaft collar blade
5.) What are the top ten major shell builders?
kirs, vespoli, wintech, hudson, stampfli, empacker
6.) Which two brands of boats are most often used in international competition?
hudson empacker
7.) What are some design considerations for building a fast rowing shell?
size weight
8.) What are some drills that would be useful for sculling? (and why?)
square blade in singles for balance, standing up rowing in a single square blade, front half on the slide for the kick off action, separate hands to move the boat around.
9.) Under what Charles River bridge do many boat crashes occur and why?
10.) What clubs make up the Schuylkill Navy?
11.) What dimensions does each part have for rigging: (what are they? how are the dimensions determined?)
Oarlock Height seat height plus some depends on the volume of the boat compared to the crew size
Seat Height ??
Footstretcher height just slightly lower than the seat
Footstretcher angel 45deg
Spread sculling 159 ish for an school kid
Pitch 4deg
Lateral Pitch ?
Catch Angle
Finish Angle
Insert
Backstay
Pin
Washers
Pitch Meter
Slide Bites
Track Position
Dual Action Undercarriage
Wing Rigger
Im a young rower coach from NZ so many terms are different
croker, concept2,
2.) What are the four primary oar blade shapes?
smoothie, chopper, spoon,fatboy
3.) What is a 'unusual' shape blade made in the USA?
4.) What are the primary parts of the oar?
handle shaft collar blade
5.) What are the top ten major shell builders?
kirs, vespoli, wintech, hudson, stampfli, empacker
6.) Which two brands of boats are most often used in international competition?
hudson empacker
7.) What are some design considerations for building a fast rowing shell?
size weight
8.) What are some drills that would be useful for sculling? (and why?)
square blade in singles for balance, standing up rowing in a single square blade, front half on the slide for the kick off action, separate hands to move the boat around.
9.) Under what Charles River bridge do many boat crashes occur and why?
10.) What clubs make up the Schuylkill Navy?
11.) What dimensions does each part have for rigging: (what are they? how are the dimensions determined?)
Oarlock Height seat height plus some depends on the volume of the boat compared to the crew size
Seat Height ??
Footstretcher height just slightly lower than the seat
Footstretcher angel 45deg
Spread sculling 159 ish for an school kid
Pitch 4deg
Lateral Pitch ?
Catch Angle
Finish Angle
Insert
Backstay
Pin
Washers
Pitch Meter
Slide Bites
Track Position
Dual Action Undercarriage
Wing Rigger
Im a young rower coach from NZ so many terms are different
Re: Rowing Research, Help Needed!!!
Hey,
I would greatly appreciate if you could answer these questions. Some of them are used for polls. The other questions, are needed specifically for shell design research and international views.
1.) What three makes of oars are most used in international Competition?
In order of prominence: Concept2, Croker, Dreher (Braca-Sport is another one)
2.) What are the four primary oar blade shapes?
The main 'shape' is a hatchet blade, but each manufacturer has variations on it based on the rowers you are buying the oars for. In the past a 'spoon' shape was used (up until the 1980s), and is still popular for teaching rowing in some places. Before that it was a 'tulip' or 'coffin' shape.
Tulip: http://www.rowinghistory.net/images/Equ ... ehmann.jpg
Spoon oars are very similarly shaped, a little wider with more curve. Couldn't find a good picture to illustrate that.
Hatchet: http://library.thinkquest.org/3265/media/blades.gif
There's a decent picture of a spoon oar there too. You can definitely see the advantages of the hatchet oar, more water is able to be gripped without worrying about the oar handle being too high in the air (takes more to bury a spoon oar fully).
3.) What is a 'unusual' shape blade made in the USA?
There is no 'unusual' shape. If you are rowing competitively, you are using a hatchet blade. Within each company, there are some changes to the blade that separate them by 1-2% in shape/area. Go look over the purchasing options at Croker and Concept2 for more information.
4.) What are the primary parts of the oar?
Blade, shaft, collar, handle, vortex tip (for C2 oars), sleeve
5.) What are the top ten major shell builders?
Vespoli, Hudson, Empacher, Filipe, Sykes, WinTech, Pocock, Pienart, Kaschper, and VanDusen. In my opinion, the best boats ever made recently were Quantums designed by Graham King. Quantum went bankrupt sadly.
6.) Which two brands of boats are most often used in international competition?
Hudson and Empacher. Vespolis are not sectionals (able to be separated into bow and stern sections) and thus are much more difficult to transport to non-American events. However within the USA, Vespoli is the dominant brand for sweep events. Probably Hudson for sculling events.
7.) What are some design considerations for building a fast rowing shell?
Weight, drag, materials used. Whether it will utilize a 'honeycomb' of carbon fiber or a simpler layered method. The shape of the hull is also extremely important. Length is not such a big consideration, has a minor effect on weight.
8.) What are some drills that would be useful for sculling? (and why?)
J-drills by pairs/fours (4+/8+) are one of the best drills. They emphasize catch timing and controlled recoveries. It is done stationary, so if the entire boat can do it and remain set, you have a brilliant crew.
Pick drill is a common warmup, 10-20 strokes at each position, arms, arms and body, half slide and then full slide.
Pause drills, to work on set and proper body position at each point in the stroke. Also some timing help in them.
Square bladed rowing. The best way to work on set and even handle heights with a crew. Very difficult to ignore mistakes like this.
Outside hand only (or alternating outside/inside, or inside only, or wide grip, or karate hands). Lots of variations of this, but again it will help with constant handle heights for a good set and proper use of the hands with rolling up for a catch and applying power.
Bob drills, just stationary catch work.
9.) Under what Charles River bridge do many boat crashes occur and why?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I wanna say Weeks bridge.
10.) What clubs make up the Schuylkill Navy?
Vesper BC, Bachelors BC, Crescent BC, Union BC, Undine BC, College BC (ex-UPenn folk), Penn AC, Philly Girls RC, Gillin BC and Fairmount RC.
11.) What dimensions does each part have for rigging: (what are they? how are the dimensions determined?)
I'm not going to answer this as it varies so much per crew and ONE dimension will do you no good for designing a boat. Each crew needs a different setup, and a lot of what you asked is inane (washer dimensions? unless you mean width, which would be 7/16" or 10mm only). Instead I suggest you do some real research. Read up on rowing. Read "Nuts and bolts guide to rigging" by Mike Davenport. Google stuff. You'll learn more in an hour online than you ever would just waiting for us to
answer. But most importantly get that damn book if you want to figure out anything about rigging without wanting to bash your brains in.
Paul
I would greatly appreciate if you could answer these questions. Some of them are used for polls. The other questions, are needed specifically for shell design research and international views.
1.) What three makes of oars are most used in international Competition?
In order of prominence: Concept2, Croker, Dreher (Braca-Sport is another one)
2.) What are the four primary oar blade shapes?
The main 'shape' is a hatchet blade, but each manufacturer has variations on it based on the rowers you are buying the oars for. In the past a 'spoon' shape was used (up until the 1980s), and is still popular for teaching rowing in some places. Before that it was a 'tulip' or 'coffin' shape.
Tulip: http://www.rowinghistory.net/images/Equ ... ehmann.jpg
Spoon oars are very similarly shaped, a little wider with more curve. Couldn't find a good picture to illustrate that.
Hatchet: http://library.thinkquest.org/3265/media/blades.gif
There's a decent picture of a spoon oar there too. You can definitely see the advantages of the hatchet oar, more water is able to be gripped without worrying about the oar handle being too high in the air (takes more to bury a spoon oar fully).
3.) What is a 'unusual' shape blade made in the USA?
There is no 'unusual' shape. If you are rowing competitively, you are using a hatchet blade. Within each company, there are some changes to the blade that separate them by 1-2% in shape/area. Go look over the purchasing options at Croker and Concept2 for more information.
4.) What are the primary parts of the oar?
Blade, shaft, collar, handle, vortex tip (for C2 oars), sleeve
5.) What are the top ten major shell builders?
Vespoli, Hudson, Empacher, Filipe, Sykes, WinTech, Pocock, Pienart, Kaschper, and VanDusen. In my opinion, the best boats ever made recently were Quantums designed by Graham King. Quantum went bankrupt sadly.
6.) Which two brands of boats are most often used in international competition?
Hudson and Empacher. Vespolis are not sectionals (able to be separated into bow and stern sections) and thus are much more difficult to transport to non-American events. However within the USA, Vespoli is the dominant brand for sweep events. Probably Hudson for sculling events.
7.) What are some design considerations for building a fast rowing shell?
Weight, drag, materials used. Whether it will utilize a 'honeycomb' of carbon fiber or a simpler layered method. The shape of the hull is also extremely important. Length is not such a big consideration, has a minor effect on weight.
8.) What are some drills that would be useful for sculling? (and why?)
J-drills by pairs/fours (4+/8+) are one of the best drills. They emphasize catch timing and controlled recoveries. It is done stationary, so if the entire boat can do it and remain set, you have a brilliant crew.
Pick drill is a common warmup, 10-20 strokes at each position, arms, arms and body, half slide and then full slide.
Pause drills, to work on set and proper body position at each point in the stroke. Also some timing help in them.
Square bladed rowing. The best way to work on set and even handle heights with a crew. Very difficult to ignore mistakes like this.
Outside hand only (or alternating outside/inside, or inside only, or wide grip, or karate hands). Lots of variations of this, but again it will help with constant handle heights for a good set and proper use of the hands with rolling up for a catch and applying power.
Bob drills, just stationary catch work.
9.) Under what Charles River bridge do many boat crashes occur and why?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I wanna say Weeks bridge.
10.) What clubs make up the Schuylkill Navy?
Vesper BC, Bachelors BC, Crescent BC, Union BC, Undine BC, College BC (ex-UPenn folk), Penn AC, Philly Girls RC, Gillin BC and Fairmount RC.
11.) What dimensions does each part have for rigging: (what are they? how are the dimensions determined?)
I'm not going to answer this as it varies so much per crew and ONE dimension will do you no good for designing a boat. Each crew needs a different setup, and a lot of what you asked is inane (washer dimensions? unless you mean width, which would be 7/16" or 10mm only). Instead I suggest you do some real research. Read up on rowing. Read "Nuts and bolts guide to rigging" by Mike Davenport. Google stuff. You'll learn more in an hour online than you ever would just waiting for us to
answer. But most importantly get that damn book if you want to figure out anything about rigging without wanting to bash your brains in.
Paul
24, 166lbs, 5'9
