pete or wolverine

groovydude · Post by **groovydude** » October 19th, 2006, 9:33 am

ok guys, basically rowing season has started and im behind. Im pulling for 2km 7:03. And basicallly i've decided to embark on a plan that i think wil help me as fast as possible. So yeh, im aiming to get 6:40-6:50, in about 8-10 weeks, and i do ergos about twice a day for 6 days. And in that, i have 2 mroning water trainings. What program is better? i know they both have their +ves and -ves, but just which one would be beneficial faster?

polaco · Post by **polaco** » October 19th, 2006, 10:29 am

Hi:

For me the Pete Plan is just a simplification of the Wolverine Plan. I follow the WP because is working for me and it's the result of many years of study and experimentation of Mike Caviston.

You will find people that is going to say you that WP is very complicated because of the L4 thing but it's not at all. Once you read carefully the documents and posts related with WP you will get it.

If you are not disciplined enough and just don't want to take the effort of reading all the documents this is not your plan.

Tyn · Post by **Tyn** » October 19th, 2006, 11:00 am

So WP doean't kill us, but
makes us stronger,

Is that it?

I find Wp pretty hard to understand!
Pete's plan is easy to understand.

Francois · Post by **Francois** » October 19th, 2006, 11:25 am

I agree with Polaco.

The main difference between the Pete Plan and the WP is the L4 workouts, which account for 65% to 70% of training volume. They are instrumental in building a solid foundation to support the more intense interval training (L1 and L2).

Also, Mike Caviston is an expert in physiology, a WR holder (6:18 in the 40-49 LWT) and a coach!

I like this part from the training plan document, which IMO, summarizes the qualities needed to be successful with our training:
"Let us think about what we mean when we say we are willing to Do What It Takes. It takes relatively few all-out near-death experiences, with the exception of the season's final erg tests and the grand finals of Championship regattas. It DOES take a consistently strong effort day in and day out, all year long, despite holidays and exam periods and personal difficulties. It DOES take effort to not only accomplish your goals during workouts, but to create a lifestyle outside of practice to allow you to get maximum benefits from training."

Good luck with your training!

Francois

ancho · Post by **ancho** » October 19th, 2006, 11:52 am

Tyn wrote:So WP doean't kill us, but
makes us stronger,

Is that it?

I find Wp pretty hard to understand!
Pete's plan is easy to understand.

You have to read the WP and understand the basic phylosophy.
Once you got it, it's not difficult at all to undderstand (even I think I understand some things...), and it allows you to track your progress in a very clear way.

There is lots of literature regarding WP, be carefull, you may get hooked!

If you are interested, there are some useful excel-sheets that will help you to set up your workouts depending on your 2k time. There used to be a link, but I can't find it now, so pm me if you are interested.

FYI, this is the link to the original WP.

It is also very interesting to track all of Mike Caviston's posts in te US and UK forum

Gus · Post by **Gus** » October 19th, 2006, 11:55 am

If your goal is to truly get as fast as you can as quickly as possible, then I would say the Pete Plan is the way to go. The WP would be a second choice. If you're looking to get to be the fastest you can be then you have to look further out than short term. Then I think a completely different training program based on periodization is the way to go.