Multiple trainings per day

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Multiple trainings per day

Post by Kozak » May 2nd, 2006, 4:34 am

Hi all,

I am new to this forum. I am a 20 year old male from Holland and I started ergoing in September 2005.

I recently did a 1:26.8 on a 500 meter but I plan on making it a 1:23 very soon as I went out flying and dying. When I started rowing I did a 2k at 6:40. As my 500 meter times and endurance has improved since then I think I can do alot better.

Now to get to my actual question. I want to do a 6:00-6:10 on the 2k within 5 months.
I know this might be too ambitious but I atleast want to try. I think I need to do more trainings per day. So I was wondering if it is good or bad to multiple trainings per day? Even if their character is totally different: endurance vs. HIIT.

I hope to be posting in this forum the coming years :D

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Re: Multiple trainings per day

Post by hjs » May 2nd, 2006, 5:16 am

Kozak wrote:Hi all,

I am new to this forum. I am a 20 year old male from Holland and I started ergoing in September 2005.

I recently did a 1:26.8 on a 500 meter but I plan on making it a 1:23 very soon as I went out flying and dying. When I started rowing I did a 2k at 6:40. As my 500 meter times and endurance has improved since then I think I can do alot better.

Now to get to my actual question. I want to do a 6:00-6:10 on the 2k within 5 months.
I know this might be too ambitious but I atleast want to try. I think I need to do more trainings per day. So I was wondering if it is good or bad to multiple trainings per day? Even if their character is totally different: endurance vs. HIIT.

I hope to be posting in this forum the coming years :D
Do you now how much you have to improve to row 6.00 coming from 6.40
I don,t mean in time but in watt's.?

About training. It is not the training that makes you better but the way your body can react to that training.
I don,t know your background, height, etc. the way you train etc.

Ps on the uk forum is a online competition. Maybe this is something for you. Look here http://www.c2ctc.com/

You can join a team. I am a member of the forum flyers. A guy like you is always welcome. It's good fun. :D

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Post by Kozak » May 2nd, 2006, 8:17 am

I know that your watts almost have to increase 'exponentially' every so much seconds.

The thing is that I did a 1 km yesterday and I kept it ont 1:31 with easy but some guy hit me when he was lifting a skiff in my last 200 m and it hurt alot. Anyway I think that gave me a good indication for my 2000m time. I should be able to do a 6:20 I think.

I am 1.95m and 96kg. I have some fat but I don't know how much. I think 14-15%.

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Post by hjs » May 2nd, 2006, 8:58 am

Kozak wrote:I know that your watts almost have to increase 'exponentially' every so much seconds.

The thing is that I did a 1 km yesterday and I kept it ont 1:31 with easy but some guy hit me when he was lifting a skiff in my last 200 m and it hurt alot. Anyway I think that gave me a good indication for my 2000m time. I should be able to do a 6:20 I think.

I am 1.95m and 96kg. I have some fat but I don't know how much. I think 14-15%.
Good build to start with. If you can hold 130 ish for 1k 6.20 is not a bad gues. To make the leap from 6.20 to 6.00 You can do the math. I don,t say you can,t but I do say you will not do this in 5 months. If your progress is going well then keep on doing what you do now. No need to change.
The 14/15 % indicates to me that you are not topfit. That is good :twisted: , the worse the shape you are in the more you can improve.

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Post by Kozak » May 3rd, 2006, 6:11 am

BTW Where can I find the formula to calculate how much Calories I have to put in a 6:20 compared to a 6:00?

Most people can produce the Watt of 1:30/500m to row a 2km but most people can't keep it at that wattage. I just have to train on keeping my wattage high. Problem is that I don't know which training I have to do for this.


Most trainings I do are 6x500m at 1:30-1:35. No long distances at all. Though I have read that that also has a positive effect, so I am gonna do that today.


Most of my rowing (on water) practices are longer distance trainings, of 11km. Because it's in a boat I do not know anything about the wattage I produce there.

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Post by hjs » May 3rd, 2006, 6:30 am

Kozak wrote:BTW Where can I find the formula to calculate how much Calories I have to put in a 6:20 compared to a 6:00?

Most people can produce the Watt of 1:30/500m to row a 2km but most people can't keep it at that wattage. I just have to train on keeping my wattage high. Problem is that I don't know which training I have to do for this.


Most trainings I do are 6x500m at 1:30-1:35. No long distances at all. Though I have read that that also has a positive effect, so I am gonna do that today.


Most of my rowing (on water) practices are longer distance trainings, of 11km. Because it's in a boat I do not know anything about the wattage I produce there.
To row 6 min at 1.30 pace you must have a 500 meter best below 1.20, to do this you have to be quit strong.

1.30 is 480 w
1.35 is 408 w

17.6 % more



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Post by Francois » May 3rd, 2006, 10:37 am

Kozak wrote: Most people can produce the Watt of 1:30/500m to row a 2km but most people can't keep it at that wattage. I just have to train on keeping my wattage high. Problem is that I don't know which training I have to do for this.
I would suggest you take a look a the Wolverine Plan, designed by Mike Caviston, an expert physiologist, WR holder for the 2K, and coach of the University of Michigan Women’s Rowing Team. You may also look at the extra comments and suggestions about the plan here.

You will be amazed how much progress you can make in five months with such a plan. It is going to be hard work! This is not for the faint-hearted!

Good luck!

Francois
49, 5'10.5" (1.79m), 153 lbs (69.5 kg)
1k 3:19.6 | 2k 6:42.8 | 5k 17:33.8 | 10K 36:43.0 | 30' 8,172m | 60' 16,031m

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