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[old] TeddiH
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Post by [old] TeddiH » February 20th, 2006, 2:55 pm

My husband is a long distance bike rider and hikes. We just got a heart rate monitor and rowing at 28-30 SPM, with the drag set at 5, he has a difficulty getting his heartrate to go much higher than 120-130BPM. He says it goes up to 170BPM or so when going up our local Phoenix hill, Squaw Peak, so it's not a matter of he can't get it up (no pun intended), he's just having difficulting getting as high a heart rate as he likes. Any pointers?

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Post by [old] John Rupp » February 20th, 2006, 3:02 pm

He is used to cycling, but just starting with his rowing.<br /><br />As the muscles and rest of the body get used to the exercise, his heart rate will be similiar to what it is cycling.<br /><br />These things take time, but it won't be long.<br /><br />The main thing is to be patient and work into it gradually.

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Post by [old] TeddiH » February 20th, 2006, 3:05 pm

<!--quoteo(post=56482:date=Feb 20 2006, 12:02 PM:name=John Rupp)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Feb 20 2006, 12:02 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>He is used to cycling, but just starting with his rowing.<br /><br />As the muscles and rest of the body get used to the exercise, his heart rate will be similiar to what it is cycling.<br /><br />These things take time, but it won't be long.<br /><br />The main thing is to be patient and work into it gradually.<br /><br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />But John, he's a bike tourist, not a racer and his heart rate never gets real high even when doing hills, just hiking uphill. Any way he can raise his HR when rowing?<br />

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Post by [old] hjs » February 20th, 2006, 3:15 pm

<!--quoteo(post=56480:date=Feb 20 2006, 07:55 PM:name=TeddiH)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(TeddiH @ Feb 20 2006, 07:55 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>My husband is a long distance bike rider and hikes. We just got a heart rate monitor and rowing at 28-30 SPM, with the drag set at 5, he has a difficulty getting his heartrate to go much higher than 120-130BPM. He says it goes up to 170BPM or so when going up our local Phoenix hill, Squaw Peak, so it's not a matter of he can't get it up (no pun intended), he's just having difficulting getting as high a heart rate as he likes. Any pointers?<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />How old is he, what is his height/weight/age. At what pace does he row?<br /><br />The problem could be the technic. A lot of beginning rowers don,t end the stroke the way they should be and thus are getting a very low pace. If that is the case and I think that very well could be, he should try to row without the straps and rate a lower, 20/24. he should push harder with his legs if he get this problem solved his hartrate will surely get higher.<br /><br />Anyone can get a high hartrate on the erg within a few minutes as he/she pushes hard enough :D :D no exceptions! :D

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Post by [old] afolpe » February 20th, 2006, 4:12 pm

Have you considered standing in front of him in a revealing outfit while he rows?<br /><br />(ducking and covering)<br /><br />af

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Post by [old] FrankJ » February 20th, 2006, 4:46 pm

<!--quoteo(post=56480:date=Feb 20 2006, 06:55 PM:name=TeddiH)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(TeddiH @ Feb 20 2006, 06:55 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>My husband is a long distance bike rider and hikes. We just got a heart rate monitor and rowing at 28-30 SPM, with the drag set at 5, he has a difficulty getting his heartrate to go much higher than 120-130BPM. He says it goes up to 170BPM or so when going up our local Phoenix hill, Squaw Peak, so it's not a matter of he can't get it up (no pun intended), he's just having difficulting getting as high a heart rate as he likes. Any pointers?<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Their is a cyclist at work that claims the same thing. The real problem is that he rows at a pedestrian pace. I can row slowly enough to keep my heart rate below 120. I can also row "up a hill" and get my HR over 170. I suspect your husband is not using his legs enough. What pace does he row at? The answer to that will give us a better hint of why his HR is so low.<br /><br />Frank

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Post by [old] John Rupp » February 20th, 2006, 5:08 pm

<!--quoteo(post=56484:date=Feb 20 2006, 11:05 AM:name=TeddiH)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(TeddiH @ Feb 20 2006, 11:05 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>But John, he's a bike tourist, not a racer and his heart rate never gets real high even when doing hills, just hiking uphill. Any way he can raise his HR when rowing? </td></tr></table><br /><br />His heart rate might be getting to max, when cycling and hiking uphill.<br /><br />Anyway, having his heart rate in the 130's is a good rate for exercise, and probably more efficient for development of his cardiac output than a rate that's much higher.

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Post by [old] PaulS » February 20th, 2006, 5:21 pm

<!--quoteo(post=56480:date=Feb 20 2006, 10:55 AM:name=TeddiH)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(TeddiH @ Feb 20 2006, 10:55 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>My husband is a long distance bike rider and hikes. We just got a heart rate monitor and rowing at 28-30 SPM, with the drag set at 5, he has a difficulty getting his heartrate to go much higher than 120-130BPM. He says it goes up to 170BPM or so when going up our local Phoenix hill, Squaw Peak, so it's not a matter of he can't get it up (no pun intended), he's just having difficulting getting as high a heart rate as he likes. Any pointers?<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />No problem, all he has to do is try to make the PACE ("/500m") unit become smaller on the Erg display and maintain it. I.e. go from a 2:45 to a 2:00<br /><br />Many folks misinterpret that unit in the beginning and think that "larger is better". 8) <br /><br />Not sure we can say much more and keep this a family show. :?

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Post by [old] hjs » February 21st, 2006, 8:51 am

<!--quoteo(post=56513:date=Feb 20 2006, 10:21 PM:name=PaulS)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Feb 20 2006, 10:21 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=56480:date=Feb 20 2006, 10:55 AM:name=TeddiH)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(TeddiH @ Feb 20 2006, 10:55 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>My husband is a long distance bike rider and hikes. We just got a heart rate monitor and rowing at 28-30 SPM, with the drag set at 5, he has a difficulty getting his heartrate to go much higher than 120-130BPM. He says it goes up to 170BPM or so when going up our local Phoenix hill, Squaw Peak, so it's not a matter of he can't get it up (no pun intended), he's just having difficulting getting as high a heart rate as he likes. Any pointers?<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />No problem, all he has to do is try to make the PACE ("/500m") unit become smaller on the Erg display and maintain it. I.e. go from a 2:45 to a 2:00<br /><br />Many folks misinterpret that unit in the beginning and think that "larger is better". 8) <br /><br />Not sure we can say much more and keep this a family show. :?<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />No Paul your wrong :D . You have to go as fast up and down the rail as you can and always with the lever on 10. And don,t dare to sweat! if you do get off as fast as you can. :D

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Post by [old] aledieps » February 21st, 2006, 9:08 am

<!--quoteo(post=56604:date=Feb 21 2006, 07:51 AM:name=hjs)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(hjs @ Feb 21 2006, 07:51 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=56513:date=Feb 20 2006, 10:21 PM:name=PaulS)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Feb 20 2006, 10:21 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=56480:date=Feb 20 2006, 10:55 AM:name=TeddiH)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(TeddiH @ Feb 20 2006, 10:55 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>My husband is a long distance bike rider and hikes. We just got a heart rate monitor and rowing at 28-30 SPM, with the drag set at 5, he has a difficulty getting his heartrate to go much higher than 120-130BPM. He says it goes up to 170BPM or so when going up our local Phoenix hill, Squaw Peak, so it's not a matter of he can't get it up (no pun intended), he's just having difficulting getting as high a heart rate as he likes. Any pointers?<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />No problem, all he has to do is try to make the PACE ("/500m") unit become smaller on the Erg display and maintain it. I.e. go from a 2:45 to a 2:00<br /><br />Many folks misinterpret that unit in the beginning and think that "larger is better". 8) <br /><br />Not sure we can say much more and keep this a family show. :?<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />No Paul your wrong :D . You have to go as fast up and down the rail as you can and always with the lever on 10. And don,t dare to sweat! if you do get off as fast as you can. :D<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />hahahaahh oh man, I've seen so many of those people. Hilarious...

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Post by [old] Citroen » February 21st, 2006, 12:06 pm

<!--quoteo(post=56604:date=Feb 21 2006, 12:51 PM:name=hjs)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(hjs @ Feb 21 2006, 12:51 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=56513:date=Feb 20 2006, 10:21 PM:name=PaulS)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Feb 20 2006, 10:21 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=56480:date=Feb 20 2006, 10:55 AM:name=TeddiH)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(TeddiH @ Feb 20 2006, 10:55 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>My husband is a long distance bike rider and hikes. We just got a heart rate monitor and rowing at 28-30 SPM, with the drag set at 5, he has a difficulty getting his heartrate to go much higher than 120-130BPM. He says it goes up to 170BPM or so when going up our local Phoenix hill, Squaw Peak, so it's not a matter of he can't get it up (no pun intended), he's just having difficulting getting as high a heart rate as he likes. Any pointers?<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />No problem, all he has to do is try to make the PACE ("/500m") unit become smaller on the Erg display and maintain it. I.e. go from a 2:45 to a 2:00<br /><br />Many folks misinterpret that unit in the beginning and think that "larger is better". 8) <br /><br />Not sure we can say much more and keep this a family show. :?<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />No Paul your wrong :D . You have to go as fast up and down the rail as you can and always with the lever on 10. And don,t dare to sweat! if you do get off as fast as you can. :D<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />You missed a couple of rules:<ol type='a'><li>Keep going for <u>no more</u> than 5 minutes</li><li>Don't register more than 100 calories on the PM2/PM3 display</li></ol>

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Post by [old] hjs » February 21st, 2006, 1:48 pm

<!--quoteo(post=56635:date=Feb 21 2006, 05:06 PM:name=Citroen)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Citroen @ Feb 21 2006, 05:06 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=56604:date=Feb 21 2006, 12:51 PM:name=hjs)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(hjs @ Feb 21 2006, 12:51 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=56513:date=Feb 20 2006, 10:21 PM:name=PaulS)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Feb 20 2006, 10:21 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=56480:date=Feb 20 2006, 10:55 AM:name=TeddiH)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(TeddiH @ Feb 20 2006, 10:55 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>My husband is a long distance bike rider and hikes. We just got a heart rate monitor and rowing at 28-30 SPM, with the drag set at 5, he has a difficulty getting his heartrate to go much higher than 120-130BPM. He says it goes up to 170BPM or so when going up our local Phoenix hill, Squaw Peak, so it's not a matter of he can't get it up (no pun intended), he's just having difficulting getting as high a heart rate as he likes. Any pointers?<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />No problem, all he has to do is try to make the PACE ("/500m") unit become smaller on the Erg display and maintain it. I.e. go from a 2:45 to a 2:00<br /><br />Many folks misinterpret that unit in the beginning and think that "larger is better". 8) <br /><br />Not sure we can say much more and keep this a family show. :?<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br /><br />No Paul your wrong :D . You have to go as fast up and down the rail as you can and always with the lever on 10. And don,t dare to sweat! if you do get off as fast as you can. :D<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />You missed a couple of rules:<ol type='a'><li>Keep going for <u>no more</u> than 5 minutes</li><li>Don't register more than 100 calories on the PM2/PM3 display</li></ol> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Citroen, <br /><br />Another one: look Annoyed at people who get the splits below 2.00. They make to much noise. :D <br />If someone dares to go below 1.30 go the the manager and get that guy banned because they try to blow you off your erg. :D :D :D <br />

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Post by [old] Godfried » February 21st, 2006, 4:22 pm

<!--quoteo(post=56480:date=Feb 20 2006, 07:55 PM:name=TeddiH)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(TeddiH @ Feb 20 2006, 07:55 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>My husband is a long distance bike rider and hikes. We just got a heart rate monitor and rowing at 28-30 SPM, with the drag set at 5, he has a difficulty getting his heartrate to go much higher than 120-130BPM. He says it goes up to 170BPM or so when going up our local Phoenix hill, Squaw Peak, so it's not a matter of he can't get it up (no pun intended), he's just having difficulting getting as high a heart rate as he likes. Any pointers?<br /> </td></tr></table><br />You don't tell , how fast he is rowing.<br /><br />If he is doing 30 minutes at 3:00/500m his heartrate will be a lot lower as at 2:00/500.<br />

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Post by [old] John Rupp » February 21st, 2006, 4:46 pm

It doesn't matter that much anyway.<br /><br />Most of my rowing is a heart rate of 98 to 107 or so.<br /><br />As long as he is doing it and enjoying what he is doing that is excellent.

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Post by [old] ljwagner » February 21st, 2006, 4:52 pm

<!--quoteo--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>If he is doing 30 minutes at 3:00/500m his heartrate will be a lot lower as at 2:00/500.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />3:00/500m means a pace of 3 minutes 0 seconds to row the erg equivalent of 500 meters. I can do that now and I just had cardiac bypass surgery 5 weeks ago. My HR also does not get over 130 doing this. The rowing machine is a strength and endurance exercise machine. I can force it higher now, but will regret it if I don't wait a few months more.<br /><br />2:00/500m is a 2 minutes 0 second pace for 500 meters.<br />1:50/500m is 1 minute 50 secnds for 500 meters.<br /><br />As your husband tries to hold a faster (that is, lower numerically) 500 meter pace continuously, he'll be able to get his heart rate as high as he :) , you :wink: , or an undertaker :? would like to see it. :P <br /><br />Have the two of you looked at the video guide on the concept 2 website that gives a demonstration of how to row ? Unless the drag factor is on neglible resistance, he must just be sliding back and force and not actually pulling the handle. Everyone in shape who uses a C2 can send their HR to about 200 in 30 seconds or so if they use their legs and arms powerfully. The handle will be moving a lot.

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