Ranger's training thread

[lancs]

All this talk of a 2k trial on September 1 has got me wondering what will the Nay-doer's excuse be for not posting his result yet again?

I'm guessing some kind of novel injury to one of his limbs as, I think I'm right in saying, the weather is too stable in his neck of the woods at this time of year to be blamed.

The excitement is palpable....

[ranger]

All this talk of a 2k trial on September 1 has got me wondering what will the Nay-doer's excuse be for not posting his result yet again?

I'm guessing some kind of novel injury to one of his limbs as, I think I'm right in saying, the weather is too stable in his neck of the woods at this time of year to be blamed.

The excitement is palpable....

Yea, injuries are a bummer.

Nothing of the sort at the moment, though.

The little finger on my left hand has recovered nicely from being slammed in a car door on the way back from Door Country.

My right hand, wrist, and forearm have also recovered completely from an earlier fall.

I am also delighted that I no longer get blisters on my hands of any sort from my OTW rowing, an indication that my OTW rowing is now much more relaxed and competent than it used to be. No "death-grip" on the handles.

The softer shoes in my new Fluid are also easy on my feet. In my Peinert, I had to wear socks to protect my feet from blisters. The shoes had sharp seams that sliced up my toes.

In my erging, I no longer get any butt-chafing, either, which I used to struggle with, given all the meters I row at high stroking powers. This easier contact with the seat has several sources. I now have better stroke mechanics. I now row at low drag. And I have given up sitting on a towel.

It is nice to be rid of these nagging aches and pains and all of the stuff that must be fiddled with to take care of them--bandaids, tape, gloves, socks, towels, etc.

ranger

[ranger]

Nay-doer's not posting his result yet again

Nay-doer?

Again?

Etc.

Who doesn't post results?

If you race, your performances are public and are posted by the officials at the race venue.

As it turns out, on the erg, I race twice as much as anyone else.

This last year, no one my age and weight (or older) came within 20 seconds of my 2K, even though I didn't even prepare to race.

These races were public.

The results were posted.

RANKING RESULTS 2010

Indoor Rower | Individual and Race Results | 2000m | Men's | Lightweight | Custom Age Range (59–70) | 2010 Season

You are number 1 of 172

1 Rich Cureton 59 Ann Arbor MI USA 6:41.4 RACE
2 Hugh Pite 65 Sidney BC CAN 7:02.7 RACE
3 Robert Lakin 61 Wichita KS USA 7:03.6 RACE
4 Gregory Brock 62 Santa Cruz CA USA 7:03.9 IND
5 Rolf Meek 59 Oslo NOR 7:05.4 IND
6 Jerry Lawson 62 USA 7:06.0 RACE
6 Gerald Lawson 62 Winona MN USA 7:06.0 IND
8 Leif Petersen 64 DEN 7:08.5 RACE
9 Peter Francis 61 Denver CO USA 7:09.3 RACE
10 Roger Prowse 65 GBR 7:10.3 RACE

ranger

[aharmer]

Moderators, I propose you also delete any post in which ranger sorts his age group as 59-70. You are 55-59 regardless how pathetically desperate you are to be number 1 in everything.

Again you ignored my question for any kind of real information. What kind of postable workouts do you plan on doing in the next 13 days, and on what dates? How can you say well over 100 times exactly what you need to do prior to your 2k, then completely disregard your own self-advice and do none of it? I know they're not coming, just wanted you to admit this in a public forum.

[NavigationHazard]

This year's strategy seems to be the brazen assertion "I do so post my results, nynah nynah nynah!" Followed by a self-generated list of 2k rankings from the 2009-2010 season in which his result was ranked for him by race organizers.

Apparently the hope is that no one will notice it's now the 2010-2011 erging season, in which he's done nothing in public.

And there's the small matter of the training pieces, the dozen or so "I will do xxx before my 2k trial on 9/1" hidden in a pile in the corner under a dropcloth. My guess is the reason he's done nothing in public is that he's done nothing in private either.

Fraud.

[ranger]

Apparently the hope is that no one will notice it's now the 2010-2011 erging season, in which he's done nothing in public.

Duh.

Training precedes racing; it doesn't follow it.

At least for the best rowers.

My guess is the reason he's done nothing in public is that he's done nothing in private either.

No racing? Indeed. There are no erg races in the summer.

Sharpening routines (and distance trials) are really races, though, and as I have mentioned, I will be happy to report the results of these timed workouts, as I do them.

BIRC is in three months; WIRC, in six months.

I have been reporting my day-to-day training, both OTW and off--on the average, 25K, 15K on the erg, 10K OTW.

ranger

[NavigationHazard]

News flash: achieving results precedes boasting about them. For the best rowers, that is, and then as a rule they don't boast.

Nothing has precluded you from entering OTW races all summer long. Entering the Charles in your dreams doesn't count.

Nothing has precluded you from posting any or all of the timed workouts you said you were going to do prior to a 2k trial on 9/1. Apart from the fact that you can't do what you insisted you could, won't do what you insisted you could, and will never do what you insisted you could. As for reporting the rest of your training, you have carried on misrepresenting whatever it is you actually do. Lies, damn lies, and a lack of statistics.

Fraud.

[mikvan52]

pride goeth "from an earlier fall."


(snore!)

[leadville]

blather blather blather

Now, I just need to keep doing it, both OTW and OTErg, for the rest of my life.

I now row well.
more blather
ranger

Wow. Amazing progress from rangerboy, who only last week was telling us he was a virtual novice and had lots to learn etc.

If you're so good, rangerboy, tell us what head races you're entering, so we can show up and learn what we're doing wrong. Of course, you can coach us as you pass us on the various courses, helping us with insights from the best coach in the world.

Too bad you didn't experience this transformation earlier; would have been terrific to watch you dominate the field in the various events at Master's Nationals. Of course, Mike and I would have had to be happy with silver...

[mikvan52]

No, he means September. The thing is, he's so nouvelle and fantastique (and ivre) he's actually on the French Revolutionary calendar. There are no Septembers in it.

September has been purged, and the remains divided between Fructidor and Vendemiaire. What stinking old-school monarchist rowers think of as Wednesday 1 September has been given the liberation name Quintidi, 15 Fructidor (year 218). And the old associated feast day has been replaced by a dedication to a fish: Truite (trout). More fitting for that promised 2k would have been the If (yew tree) or else Fumiere (manure), but they already had been assigned to 18 Pluvioise and 8 Nivose respectively....

touché


Methinks, the Windhover should be renamed Bateau Ivre

[mikvan52]

Question for our petit bonhomme:

Is recording and reporting training using the IND_V function racing?

The answer, even furtively, is "No"...

... nice try.

Reid Frawd would be proud of you...

[ranger]

s recording and reporting training using the IND_V function racing?

The answer, even furtively, is "No"...

Why record your training IND_V if you don't race it?

I see no purpose.

The purpose of IND_V is to record a timed result.

But for me, training has nothing to do with timed "pieces," at least until you start sharpening.

UT training has to do with working on effectiveness (UT2) and efficiency (UT!).

At least as I go about these things, work on both effectiveness and efficiency in rowing is aided by everything that is the _opposite_ of performing a timed "piece"--technical precision, technical readjustment, unconscious habit, natrual energy flows, relaxation, etc.

When you do a timed "piece," you usually have time on your mind, and little else.

You try to hold a certain pace for a certain distance.

For me, at least, that doesn't have anything to do with improving effectiveness and efficiency.

It is just an irrelevant, arbitrary, extermally imposed constraint on a row that fixes your mind on everything except what you should be attending to.

As I approach it, UT work is a lot of "drilling" on how to produce easy (UT1) power (UT2).

Time and distance are both irrelevant to the success of this work.

When I was a marathon runner, I did a lot of 8, 12, 15, and 20-mile runs, plus a lot of long 10-15 mile fartlek routines.

I never thought of timing them, though.

I just worked as hard as I could, and for interest and maximal benefit, varied the routines.

The issue with this work was exactly to forget entirely how fast I was going and concentrate on improving my running.

When you do a timed "piece," the tendency is to parade your strengths.

UT training is work on weaknesses.

"Drilling."

ranger

[kini62]

Seriously, what does yanking the chain 7 or 8 times prove?

Nothing, unless you yank it, just that way, a couple of thousand times a day, as I do.

ranger

Sure you do. You post a 26 second "flash" of your rowing and you expect everyone to believe that you can keep that up for "a couple of thousand" times.

So how long does it take you to yank the chain a couple of thousand times at that rate and pace with your obvious need to take breaks every 26 seconds?

Forget the "couple of thousand" yanks and just post a 2K at that rate and pace and then we can move up from there.

Again, I won't be holding my breath.

[nysaag]

Ranger, the nay-doer, will never publish his workouts.
Ranger, the nay-doer, will never break 6:40 again.
Ranger, the nay-doer, will never pay his debt to Henry.
Ranger, the nay-doer, will never speak the truth.
Ranger, the nay-doer, will never race OTW.

Ranger will remain a troll.

[ranger]

The big challenge now, given my better technique, is to train myself to rate 30 spm for 5K, both OTW and off.

OTErg, at 12 SPI, that's 1:39/16:30.

OTW, even at 20 seconds per 500m over erg paces, that's 1:59, 19:10 for the 3 miles at the Head of the Charles.

I would be delighted with that.

If some 60s rower can do better, more power to them.

Last year, Dietz won the Veterans/60s race at the Head of the Charles at 2:06 pace.

ranger