Whacking heart rate sensor with handle

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Re: Whacking heart rate sensor with handle

Post by Sakly » January 14th, 2024, 1:22 pm

hikeplusrow wrote:
January 14th, 2024, 10:44 am
Sakly wrote:
January 14th, 2024, 10:38 am
hikeplusrow wrote:
January 14th, 2024, 10:35 am


I tend to pull quite naturally to my sternum. Lower would be difficult as, when rowing, my sternum and abdomen areas are one and the same - I'm weird like that :lol: Higher could be a possibility, but I'm not a fan of the 'high pull' some use - in fact I find it difficult to execute. I think I might just put up with it.
I also hit the sensor from time to time, but typically I don't pull until the handle smashes into my chest/sternum. So this only happens an really hard pieces and not on every stroke. I can deal with it and the sensor doesn't seem to be affected by it (yet).
Yeah, my sensor seems fine. Less so my favourite all in one/unisuit, which is starting to become somewhat threadbare in the sternum area :(
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Re: Whacking heart rate sensor with handle

Post by p_b82 » January 14th, 2024, 1:45 pm

I occasionally bash my h10 too - it's coped fine with the abuse so far; I just ease off the arms a bit when it happens.

Normally for me it's a sign I'm pulling too hard and not I should stop it!
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Re: Whacking heart rate sensor with handle

Post by hikeplusrow » January 14th, 2024, 1:58 pm

Sakly wrote:
January 14th, 2024, 1:22 pm
hikeplusrow wrote:
January 14th, 2024, 10:44 am
Sakly wrote:
January 14th, 2024, 10:38 am


I also hit the sensor from time to time, but typically I don't pull until the handle smashes into my chest/sternum. So this only happens an really hard pieces and not on every stroke. I can deal with it and the sensor doesn't seem to be affected by it (yet).
Yeah, my sensor seems fine. Less so my favourite all in one/unisuit, which is starting to become somewhat threadbare in the sternum area :(
No problem here, I row topless every time 😄
Oh, I say! :lol:

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Re: Whacking heart rate sensor with handle

Post by Dangerscouse » January 14th, 2024, 4:35 pm

hikeplusrow wrote:
January 14th, 2024, 12:14 pm
Actually, I think I lean back a bit too much. I bought a new all in one a few months back which had some dodgy stitching in the sacrum area. This has resulted in some soreness, which I think is exacerbated by my pronounced leanback. I've been given some antibiotic cream for the aforementioned.
Do you know what your stroke length is?
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Re: Whacking heart rate sensor with handle

Post by mict450 » January 14th, 2024, 9:10 pm

hikeplusrow wrote:
January 14th, 2024, 12:14 pm
I bought a new all in one a few months back which had some dodgy stitching in the sacrum area. This has resulted in some soreness, which I think is exacerbated by my pronounced leanback. I've been given some antibiotic cream for the aforementioned.
Personally, I would ditch that new all in one. Pressure + friction + moisture add up to a fertile environment for ulcer formation. Hope your condition improves.
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Re: Whacking heart rate sensor with handle

Post by Dangerscouse » January 15th, 2024, 1:46 am

mict450 wrote:
January 14th, 2024, 9:10 pm
Personally, I would ditch that new all in one. Pressure + friction + moisture add up to a fertile environment for ulcer formation. Hope your condition improves.
Agreed, anything that causes an infection is really not worth the hassle.
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Re: Whacking heart rate sensor with handle

Post by hikeplusrow » January 15th, 2024, 5:36 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 1:46 am
mict450 wrote:
January 14th, 2024, 9:10 pm
Personally, I would ditch that new all in one. Pressure + friction + moisture add up to a fertile environment for ulcer formation. Hope your condition improves.
Agreed, anything that causes an infection is really not worth the hassle.
It was only that particular all in one that caused an issue. My other two are fine.

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Re: Whacking heart rate sensor with handle

Post by Me, Myself and I » January 15th, 2024, 3:50 pm

hikeplusrow wrote:
January 14th, 2024, 1:58 pm
No problem here, I row topless every time 😄
Same. Just rowing shorts, crew stops & KSOs. Year round.
hikeplusrow wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 5:36 am
It was only that particular all in one that caused an issue. My other two are fine.
Is the guilty all-in-one made of a different material than the other two?
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Re: Whacking heart rate sensor with handle

Post by hikeplusrow » January 15th, 2024, 4:57 pm

Me, Myself and I wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 3:50 pm
hikeplusrow wrote:
January 14th, 2024, 1:58 pm
No problem here, I row topless every time 😄
Same. Just rowing shorts, crew stops & KSOs. Year round.
hikeplusrow wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 5:36 am
It was only that particular all in one that caused an issue. My other two are fine.
Is the guilty all-in-one made of a different material than the other two?
No, they're all stretchy Lycra type stuff. I only use an all in one because it seems the most practical garment for erging - there's nothing to flap about. I get the impression that they're not that popular with ergers - perhaps some regard them as being a bit 'pro'.

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Re: Whacking heart rate sensor with handle

Post by Willy.VdW » January 17th, 2024, 1:19 pm

hikeplusrow wrote:
January 14th, 2024, 10:21 am
Willy.VdW wrote:
January 14th, 2024, 8:54 am
If I am not mistaken, you don't have to wear the sensor on your chest.
If that is true, perhaps you can wear it on your back?
I understand there can be issues picking up heart rate with that approach.
Tried it today during a 50min workout. Not with a H10 sensor, but with a Polar WearLink W.I.N.D
sensor and a RS800CX watch. It worked without. Perhaps no surprize since hearbeatsensors
don't sense the heartbeat itself but the electric pulse(s)?

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Re: Whacking heart rate sensor with handle

Post by hikeplusrow » January 17th, 2024, 2:27 pm

Willy.VdW wrote:
January 17th, 2024, 1:19 pm
hikeplusrow wrote:
January 14th, 2024, 10:21 am
Willy.VdW wrote:
January 14th, 2024, 8:54 am
If I am not mistaken, you don't have to wear the sensor on your chest.
If that is true, perhaps you can wear it on your back?
I understand there can be issues picking up heart rate with that approach.
Tried it today during a 50min workout. Not with a H10 sensor, but with a Polar WearLink W.I.N.D
sensor and a RS800CX watch. It worked without. Perhaps no surprize since hearbeatsensors
don't sense the heartbeat itself but the electric pulse(s)?
Thanks, I'll try with the H10.

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Re: Whacking heart rate sensor with handle

Post by HornetMaX » January 18th, 2024, 8:41 am

hikeplusrow wrote:
January 13th, 2024, 12:51 pm
Is there a workaround for this? I sometimes use a Polar H10 and give the sensor a bash every time I pull the handle to my sternum. I've heard that some wear the strap so that the sensor is slightly off centre. Thoughts?
Not sure it was a problem, but to be on the safe side I'd zip-tied a small piece of foamy/spongy stuff on the part of the c2 handle that was occasionally hitting the HRM. One thing less to focus on.
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Re: Whacking heart rate sensor with handle

Post by Willy.VdW » January 18th, 2024, 9:00 am

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Tried it today during a 50min workout. Not with a H10 sensor, but with a Polar WearLink W.I.N.D
sensor and a RS800CX watch. It worked without. Perhaps no surprize since hearbeatsensors
don't sense the heartbeat itself but the electric pulse(s)?
[/quote]
Of course "worked without" should have been "worked without problems" :oops:

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Re: Whacking heart rate sensor with handle

Post by hikeplusrow » January 18th, 2024, 9:44 am

HornetMaX wrote:
January 18th, 2024, 8:41 am
hikeplusrow wrote:
January 13th, 2024, 12:51 pm
Is there a workaround for this? I sometimes use a Polar H10 and give the sensor a bash every time I pull the handle to my sternum. I've heard that some wear the strap so that the sensor is slightly off centre. Thoughts?
Not sure it was a problem, but to be on the safe side I'd zip-tied a small piece of foamy/spongy stuff on the part of the c2 handle that was occasionally hitting the HRM. One thing less to focus on.
Yes, I've thought about doing something similar.

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Re: Whacking heart rate sensor with handle

Post by HornetMaX » January 18th, 2024, 9:56 am

hikeplusrow wrote:
January 14th, 2024, 10:21 am
Willy.VdW wrote:
January 14th, 2024, 8:54 am
If I am not mistaken, you don't have to wear the sensor on your chest.
If that is true, perhaps you can wear it on your back?
I understand there can be issues picking up heart rate with that approach.
I think the HRM manuals typically say to put the module middle of your chest or, if troubles, a bit on the left.
1973, 173cm (5'8"), LW, started rowing Sep 2021 (after 10 years of being a couch potato), c2 log
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