Max heart rate

[Tsnor]

Its not sport specific perse. But more training specific.

Re your max, do a 20 min piece, and go for broke in the last 5 min. Should give you a good idea.

Actually max HR is sport specific. Swimming is lying down. Running is standing. Not shocking that max HR for the same person is different in swimming vs running. Rowing is in the middle somewhere from a posture perspective, but has different VO2 max requirements than either. Example: here is a table of measured values for people doing both running and swimming max HR tests. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3172669 ... re-2-uid-1 in this study "Maximal heart rate was 6.7 ± 5.3 bpm lower for swimming compared to running " https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31726693/ where "a secondary aim was to determine the difference in maximal heart rate between front crawl swimming and running among elite swimmers. "

Yes, But thats not the whole story. Often when you are not trained for a sport, not hf but local muscle fatique will be the limiting factor. A top swimmer will not be able to get hf op with cycling or running like he can with swimming.

When you are alround trained vertical versus horizontal matters.

I for example, on a bike, not get a high hf on a bike, my quads give in.
And on the skierg, standing up, hf is does not reach my rowing numbers. The limit is not my heart but the smaller muscles that have to do the work.

Agree completely.

[Rod]

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[tomraven]

I am 62 years old and I am to concerned about pushing my heart rate too high. I am 104kg, so quite a bit overweight but i exercise for about an hour 5 times a week. My heart rate when resting is about 62bpm and at night it can go as low as 50bpm when i am asleep. My problem is i find my heart rate goes up quite quickly when i exercise and i have tried to limit it to about 143bpm as a max, but at that level i don't think i am pushing hard enough to get properly fit. How high do people of my age push their heart rates without concern. I have seen mine spike at 150 and as high as 170 and then i get nervous and back off. I sometimes think buying a heart rate monitor was the worst thing I have done.

[wpuk]

90% of the training you are doing should be low intensity Zone 2 work which is generalised to be 60-70% of your max heart rate.

Cleverer people than me will chip and give you more specifics

[Dangerscouse]

I am 62 years old and I am to concerned about pushing my heart rate too high. I am 104kg, so quite a bit overweight but i exercise for about an hour 5 times a week. My heart rate when resting is about 62bpm and at night it can go as low as 50bpm when i am asleep. My problem is i find my heart rate goes up quite quickly when i exercise and i have tried to limit it to about 143bpm as a max, but at that level i don't think i am pushing hard enough to get properly fit. How high do people of my age push their heart rates without concern. I have seen mine spike at 150 and as high as 170 and then i get nervous and back off. I sometimes think buying a heart rate monitor was the worst thing I have done.

When you saw 170, was it a steadyish climb to 170 or a very short spike? 170 possibly could be your max HR so don't be too concerned about that. I know of someone in their late 30s, who is getting close to sub 6 2k, and has a max of 202, so don't be fooled into thinking that your max HR has to be quite low.

You don't want to overstress your heart, but you also need to be mindful that progress for getting fit does take a lot of time, and it takes even longer the older that you get.

Are you rowing for an hour five times a week, and is it a continuous session? How do you feel, out of 10, at 143bpm? Can you talk, even if it's only shorter sentences?

[Citroen]

I am 62 years old and I am to concerned about pushing my heart rate too high.

Stop using 220-age and it's not too high.

[pagomichaelh]

I am 62 years old and I am to concerned about pushing my heart rate too high. ...

Don't sweat it; I'm 67, and my max is 184. Genetics, ya gotta love 'em, 'cause you don't have a choice.

Rate of climb is no biggie, what you're shooting for is a shorter recovery time once you stop exertion.

[Tsnor]

I am 62 years old and I am to concerned about pushing my heart rate too high. I am 104kg, so quite a bit overweight but i exercise for about an hour 5 times a week. My heart rate when resting is about 62bpm and at night it can go as low as 50bpm when i am asleep. My problem is i find my heart rate goes up quite quickly when i exercise and i have tried to limit it to about 143bpm as a max, but at that level i don't think i am pushing hard enough to get properly fit. How high do people of my age push their heart rates without concern. I have seen mine spike at 150 and as high as 170 and then i get nervous and back off. I sometimes think buying a heart rate monitor was the worst thing I have done.

5 hours / week excellent.

No way to know if you have heart problems without a doctor's help. If you haven't seen your dr. in 3-5 years then get a well visit and ask if there are any HR restrictions. Without a known heart/health problem you can go as high as you like. Exercise studies by doctors with informed consent rules, etc., get into high HR ranges.

Mayo clinic says "The American Heart Association generally recommends a target heart rate of: Moderate exercise intensity: 50% to about 70% of your maximum heart rate. Vigorous exercise intensity: 70% to about 85% of your maximum heart rate." Both of these recommendations assume you worked hard enough to discover your max heart rate, and are telling you how far to back off based on the excercise program you are following.

Your question: "How high do people of my age push their heart rates without concern." I am 63 yo. I max mine without concern, but not that often because its not great training. For me max is 175. Most of my time is less than 130 with some time in high 160s two or three days/week. Longer intervals = higher HR for me.

Net: Get comfortable your heart is ok then go for it.

[GlennUk]

Your question: "How high do people of my age push their heart rates without concern." I am 63 yo. I max mine without concern, but not that often because its not great training. For me max is 175. Most of my time is less than 130 with some time in high 160s two or three days/week. Longer intervals = higher HR for me.

Net: Get comfortable your heart is ok then go for it.

FWIW I'm a HWT m60 my HRmax is 183bpm measured with chest strap/Polar H9 c.f. 160 based on 220-age.

As someone else mentioned HRmax may vary by discipline for an individual, so not sure if there is a discipline where my HRmax would be 160bpm, if there is, it sure as hell isn't erging!

[tomraven]

Thank you all for your input.

I don't get particularly tired or puffed.

I think it is all in my head. I went for a heart stress test 2 years ago and had no issues but I am a worrier.

I'll have to just calm down and build up my fitness slowly.

[Holly62]

Don't stress about it, that's not good.

I had a stress test prior to rehab and it put my max heart rate before it starts to struggle at 160 bpm, which at sixty, pretty much goes with the formula of 220 minus your age.
I do all my rowing with my heart rate 120/130, with occasional pushes up to 140, now I have my final stent fitted.

I don't worry about it, I just get on with it.
My cardiologist and my physio, give me a thumbs up for as much cardio as I can take, "listen to your body" is the term used.

[dabatey]

I wonder if these studies that give 220-age etc used lots of folks who's local muscular fatigue (As HJS has noted) kicked in before they got anywhere near what would have been their max heart rate.

I wonder what formula the studies would give if using individuals with a high level of fitness in the testing method (without looking up the studies I imagine it's running on a treadmill).

[Citroen]

I wonder if these studies that give 220-age etc used lots of folks who's local muscular fatigue (As HJS has noted) kicked in before they got anywhere near what would have been their max heart rate.

https://eprints.qut.edu.au/96880/1/96880.pdf

[dabatey]

I wonder if these studies that give 220-age etc used lots of folks who's local muscular fatigue (As HJS has noted) kicked in before they got anywhere near what would have been their max heart rate.

https://eprints.qut.edu.au/96880/1/96880.pdf

As well as the Tanaka (206-0.7 x age) which is oft quoted, interesting to see this one amongst virtually all the studies that do not seem to focus on trained individuals:

Lester (19) 48 W & M Trained 205-0.41a

Works out very close for my 'seen HR' of 183 at age 50 rowing, and also very close to a seen HR of 192 observed sprinting up a hill at age 36 a few years ago.

How does everyone else compare using the formula of 205-0.41 x age????????

[Joebasscat]

I wonder if these studies that give 220-age etc used lots of folks who's local muscular fatigue (As HJS has noted) kicked in before they got anywhere near what would have been their max heart rate.

https://eprints.qut.edu.au/96880/1/96880.pdf

As well as the Tanaka (206-0.7 x age) which is oft quoted, interesting to see this one amongst virtually all the studies that do not seem to focus on trained individuals:

Lester (19) 48 W & M Trained 205-0.41a

Works out very close for my 'seen HR' of 183 at age 50 rowing, and also very close to a seen HR of 192 observed sprinting up a hill at age 36 a few years ago.

How does everyone else compare using the formula of 205-0.41 x age????????

That formula is still a bit low for me, but closer than the others I’ve see. Puts me at 179 and my observation is 188.