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[old] Rocket Roy · Post by **[old] Rocket Roy** » January 30th, 2006, 4:53 am

How is it possible to do 5 x 2k's back to back on friday yet not complete one at a slower pace in the race? I don't understand at all.<br /><br />It must be mental.

[old] hjs · Post by **[old] hjs** » January 30th, 2006, 5:28 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Rocket Roy @ Jan 30 2006, 09:53 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>How is it possible to do 5 x 2k's back to back on friday yet not complete one at a slower pace in the race? I don't understand at all.<br /><br />It must be mental. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />mental?<br /><br />Mark saw him starting and nothing indicated he couldn't row. he stopped after a short piece so he didn,t even try. I am very curious how he will bent this attempt in his fevor. Not to mention his weight, he wasn,t able to reach the lwgt border.

[old] Rocket Roy · Post by **[old] Rocket Roy** » January 30th, 2006, 6:10 am

Is this the end for Ranger?<br /><br />has his head imploded?<br /><br />has all the bottle gone?<br /><br />Will we ever see him race again?<br /><br />Is he now retired?<br /><br />Why isn't he here defending his stoppage?

[old] FrancoisA · Post by **[old] FrancoisA** » January 30th, 2006, 11:55 am

I have pulled some quotes from this thread to keep us entertained, while we all eagerly await the return of our favourite host and the resuming of our regular programming! <br /><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Nov 26 2005, 06:41 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>At the CRASH-Bs in 2003, when I broke the WR, I weighed in at 161 lbs. This shows that I am not at all on the very margin of making weight. </td></tr></table><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(george nz @ Dec 6 2005, 08:48 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I think it is common consensus that to be able to race over any given distance at any given pace then it is sensible to prepare the 'body' to do that. In our case that would be spending time training at race rate and pace for a period leading up to the event. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Dec 6 2005, 08:55 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I have never done 4 x 1K at race pace. In fact, I have never done 4 x 1K at all.<br /><br />But I have three world record rows and have rowed 6:28 at a smidge before 53 years old rowing as a lightweight. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Dec 6 2005, 09:45 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>With my better technique, I now do 1:40 pace at 28-29 spm, pretty controlled and leisurely stuff, as far as racing goes. I will probably race at 32-34 spm, hopefully finishing above that. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Dec 6 2005, 10:53 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I guess it is a disappearing attitude, but to me, honor is more important than money. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Dec 6 2005, 11:19 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Just be clear in what you are saying and I'll have no reason to wonder if I'm misinterpretting it. i.e. If I said that I could do a sub minute 500m I wouldn't mean just a few strokes at 0:59 or better, it would have to be the whole 500m, Total time = Avg Pace. Common meaning, IMO. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Dec 7 2005, 12:14 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Not at all true, George. By and large, I have done everything I have said I was going to do. [right] <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(george nz @ Dec 7 2005, 06:22 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Sorry Ranger my mistake, I just thought that as an English professor you would use words you actually meant ..... <br /><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>A marathon at 1:50 and 23 spm, I think, will come <u><b>very shortly</b>.</u>.....<br />I am <u><b>just about ready</b></u> to row at marathon at 1:50 pace......<br />For instance, I would find it pretty easy <u><b>now</b></u> to row a marathon at 16 spm and 13-15 SPI.....<br />I think I would<u> <b>now</b></u> row a marathon at about 23-24 spm and 1:50 pace....<br />a marathon at 20 spm and 1:53. I'll see if I can get one done over the <u><b>next couple of months.</b></u> </td></tr></table><br /><br />see when you use words like <b>now</b> or <b>next couple of months</b>, and on the UK forum you said <b>next couple of weeks</b>, strangely that is what people thought you meant but that was <b>OVER</b> a year ago. People read the forum and read your posts and take you at your word, the problem is just what does your word mean? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Dec 8 2005, 09:24 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I am the fastest erger in the world for my age and weight, by a considerable margin; and given that I have just learned how to row, and am still training to get used to propoer technique, I still think that I haven't reached my full potential.<br /><br />This is _very_ encouraging. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />

[old] haboustak · Post by **[old] haboustak** » January 30th, 2006, 12:10 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Jan 29 2006, 04:03 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I forgot to add, and George's post reminded me, that I believe Rich raced as a HW. I do not remember seeing his entry line "x-ed" as a LW when I was checking results to see where I stacked up. </td></tr></table><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(hjs @ Jan 30 2006, 04:28 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Not to mention his weight, he wasn,t able to reach the lwgt border. </td></tr></table><br /><br />I was near the race results computer when Rich's card came up, and I'm about 98% sure it was marked that he had made lightweight. I don't know what was recorded on the result posting.<br /><br />Like Mark, I was also disappointed to see Rich stop rowing. I thought I saw him massaging his left side after putting the handle down-- but I might have imagined that detail myself after reading about his rib injuries.<br /><br />Mike

[old] kinley · Post by **[old] kinley** » January 30th, 2006, 12:34 pm

<br />Notwithstanding Ranger's bloviation, it's always disheartening to see someone quit_a_piece.<br /><br />Bad for the communal morale, I think.<br />

[old] mpukita · Post by **[old] mpukita** » January 30th, 2006, 1:45 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(kinley @ Jan 30 2006, 12:34 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Notwithstanding Ranger's bloviation, it's always disheartening to see someone quit_a_piece.<br /><br />Bad for the communal morale, I think. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I agree ... it's inspiring to see someone who obviously is struggling to finish (for whatever reason) gut it out and finish a piece. It happened in Cincinnati a few times before I left, and the crowd clapped and cheered more for the struggling but persevering rower than the winner of the heat in almost all cases (except a spectacular sub-6:40 row by a novice young man -- looked like a LW schoolboy rower maybe 15/16 years of age -- that was almost at flat line rate & pace for the entire 2000 ... a marvelous row).

[old] FrancoisA · Post by **[old] FrancoisA** » January 30th, 2006, 2:48 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(kinley @ Jan 30 2006, 04:34 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Notwithstanding Ranger's bloviation, it's always disheartening to see someone quit_a_piece.<br /><br />Bad for the communal morale, I think. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />I also agree.<br /><br />I quit a race once in my life; I was 16 and a good swimmer back in Canada, but could not join any descent swim team when we moved to Casablanca, Morocco. Therefore, I joined a track and field team instead. A week later, the coach had me take part in a 1k race. I was so slow compared to those Moroccans, it was embarrassing and I thought they would lap me! It was as if a frog on steroids (I was a breaststroker) was competing against a bunch of gazelles! To add insult to injury, the spectators were laughing at me! That was too much, and I stopped after 400m.<br /><br />Even to this day, I regret not having finished that race and having let my coach down.

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » January 30th, 2006, 4:45 pm

Francois,<br /><br />That's cool you lived in Morocco.<br /><br />How long were you there? Did you keep running with them?<br /><br />The Moroccan's are among the best runners in the world, so that must have been a great experience to have been there and run with them.

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » January 30th, 2006, 4:49 pm

In my opinion there is nothing wrong with stopping a race, though it depends on the circumstances and the venue.<br /><br />There's a time to hold 'em and a time to fold 'em.<br /><br />They can't all be winners, and there's no point betting the house on a losing proposition.<br /><br />It is far better, in my opinion, to regroup and then have at it again.

[old] FrancoisA · Post by **[old] FrancoisA** » January 30th, 2006, 5:02 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Jan 30 2006, 08:45 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Francois,<br /><br />That's cool you lived in Morocco.<br /><br />How long were you there? Did you keep running with them?<br /><br />The Moroccan's are among the best runners in the world, so that must have been a great experience to have been there and run with them. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />I lived there only one year. I stopped running with that team after my aborted race; I was just too ashamed of myself Which is sad, because, as you said, it would have been a great experience. I guess I was too proud to accept being defeated and ridiculed.<br /><br />I think it is literally true that "Pride goes before a fall."<br />

[old] Byron Drachman · Post by **[old] Byron Drachman** » January 30th, 2006, 5:45 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>it was embarrassing and I thought they would lap me! </td></tr></table> <br /><br />Hi Francois,<br /><br />I was at a bike race once where my event was at a different time than my friend's, who was about to get lapped by the field. He saw me standing at the curb with a camera and he shouted at me "Hey, take a picture!" In the photo, of course, it would look like he was doing a nice breakaway from the field.<br /><br />Byron

[old] george nz · Post by **[old] george nz** » January 30th, 2006, 6:11 pm

Long time, no Ranger post, very strange .... would we have had to wait this long for an update if he had rowed a 6:35 WR, not a very charitable thought I know but one I have had <br /><br />I hope all that talent has not gone to waste.<br /><br />George

[old] Taylor Miller · Post by **[old] Taylor Miller** » January 31st, 2006, 12:27 am

George……….<br />Talent?<br />What is talent?<br />I suppose it’s the ability to do something very well.<br />Ranger has no racing “talent”, no diplomacy “talent” and<br />in fact not a wiff of talent in the ability to attract admirers to<br />“rally around” him.<br />Be honest. Half of us are sort of glad that this braggart mouthed<br />(yet physically talented!) forum hogger failed his first race<br />attempt – remember – the one he was going to do virtually at<br />a relaxing “frothing” rate. (I’m not as industrious as George<br />sifting through the scores of posts to find his exact words.)<br />His regular 10 posts plus a day have evaporated, and I’m sure <br />we’ll eventually get some lame excuse on how some sort of injury<br />has been responsible for this. Remember – he’s the one who’s<br />always told us how he never has a sick day in his life.<br />But in perspective – Ranger obviously doesn’t like racing – so here’s a<br />clever suggestion. Don’t race!! He loves his Zapopeks. He loves his<br />hours of skipping, extension push ups, stepping and finish off with<br />40 X 500’s. Loves his HM and full marathons and loves his SPI<br />calculations. Stick to what you love Ranger. Why drag yourself<br />half way around the country – or the World – to do something you <br />don’t enjoy. Plus – you love posting on the forum too. You annoy us,<br />and you ridicule us, offend us, belittle us, insinuate we can’t do<br />what you do (and we can’t) – and attract those who believe in you<br />and those who think you are full of crap. That’s talent. You are good at<br />all this – so come back to the forum. We can’t wait to hear your<br />lame excuses, your if’s and but’s and when’s and how’s. We can’t wait for<br />you to run us through your 200 meters of frothing at 1.39 and the<br />several hours prior to the race which we are sure was filled with<br />jack knives and push ups, skipping, stepping – h*** – you may<br />have even got a quick marathon run in – you’ve been running<br />them all your life. But don’t run from the forum. Come on back<br />Ranger – we miss your talent!<br /><br />

[old] PaulS · Post by **[old] PaulS** » January 31st, 2006, 12:32 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Taylor Miller @ Jan 30 2006, 08:27 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Come on back Ranger – we miss your talent! <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Taylor,<br /><br />Make sure to get it all out.... Afterall, Ranger finally got you to delurk.

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