The Two Types of Training

[wgr]

becz wrote:

I think it's time to once again consider whether the forum would be a better place without Ranger. And by better I'm not referring to anything regarding entertainment. I can live with the ridiculous bravado, especially given his spectacular failure with respect to meeting his own expectations. But when he time and again belittles others and posts profanity when challenged I thinks it's time to clean house. It wasn't due to simple annoyance that he was banned from the UK forum, it was for the same reasons that we see occurring here. While Ranger's rowing hasn't improved over the course of the past 5 years, neither has his behavior, and I think it makes the forum a lesser place to contribute to. This isn't about censorship, it's about what the community wants this place to be. Let him go start a blog somewhere if he so chooses, something that only he has control over (which it would seem would suit him just fine), but let's end the ridculousness here. Anyone who's truly interested in continuing the madness can follow him wherever he lands.

becz,

Who are you? Who invited you here? to speak for us?

This is a thread started by Ranger to describe his Odyssey to 6:16. The views here are astronomical and completely voluntary. Many enjoy reading the posts and rejoinders.

Ranger is sharing his self-talk describing what he and others must do to take their erging to the next level. I've learned a lot about erging here, not just from Ranger but from others who have generously offered their knowledge and training experience. The thread has attracted a huge following of scribes, scrutineers, naysayers and overly-sensitive cheapseats following his every statement and posting responses and repartees. Many are excellent, many are vacuous and many have been nastier than deserved. Some of the latter have attracted a suitable response from Ranger. So what?

You would have to admit that Ranger has judiciously ignored much of the provocation and continued his self-talk in a generally positive way.

Your opinion and your case against Ranger is unsolicited, prejudiced, silly and one sided. You judge him guilty by totally ignoring the provocations.

If you long for the genteelness and civility of the UK forum, you are welcome to attend there and ignore this thread. Your presence here, or anyone's for that matter, is not compulsory.

By the way, March Madness starts in a couple of hours, so hurry off.

[stroke]

becz wrote:

I think it's time to once again consider whether the forum would be a better place without Ranger. And by better I'm not referring to anything regarding entertainment. I can live with the ridiculous bravado, especially given his spectacular failure with respect to meeting his own expectations. But when he time and again belittles others and posts profanity when challenged I thinks it's time to clean house. It wasn't due to simple annoyance that he was banned from the UK forum, it was for the same reasons that we see occurring here. While Ranger's rowing hasn't improved over the course of the past 5 years, neither has his behavior, and I think it makes the forum a lesser place to contribute to. This isn't about censorship, it's about what the community wants this place to be. Let him go start a blog somewhere if he so chooses, something that only he has control over (which it would seem would suit him just fine), but let's end the ridculousness here. Anyone who's truly interested in continuing the madness can follow him wherever he lands.

becz,

Who are you? Who invited you here? to speak for us?

This is a thread started by Ranger to describe his Odyssey to 6:16. The views here are astronomical and completely voluntary. Many enjoy reading the posts and rejoinders.

Ranger is sharing his self-talk describing what he and others must do to take their erging to the next level. I've learned a lot about erging here, not just from Ranger but from others who have generously offered their knowledge and training experience. The thread has attracted a huge following of scribes, scrutineers, naysayers and overly-sensitive cheapseats following his every statement and posting responses and repartees. Many are excellent, many are vacuous and many have been nastier than deserved. Some of the latter have attracted a suitable response from Ranger. So what?

You would have to admit that Ranger has judiciously ignored much of the provocation and continued his self-talk in a generally positive way.

Your opinion and your case against Ranger is unsolicited, prejudiced, silly and one sided. You judge him guilty by totally ignoring the provocations.

If you long for the genteelness and civility of the UK forum, you are welcome to attend there and ignore this thread. Your presence here, or anyone's for that matter, is not compulsory.

By the way, March Madness starts in a couple of hours, so hurry off.

Couldnt agree more, everyone here is only a mouse click away from leaving, its not hard if you dont like it you have two choices 1. take a teaspoon of concrete and harden up or 2. leave. spare us the preciousness of "making the forum a lesser place" etc Of course that just my opinion your mileage may vary

[ranger]

1:31 @ 40 spm (11.7 SPI) is now smooth and easy.

Right on my target.

After seven years of work, I'm finally briniging it home.

What a feeling.

Now, I just need to keep doing it.

Occasionally, I am shocked to find the rate at 43 spm rather than 40 spm.

Yep.

John Rupp would be pleased.

8 MPS

"Danish Lightweight Racing Stroke"

It's an efficient little bugger, and if you can remain effective with it (e.g., in and around 12 SPI), as I now can, when you throw it into gear, you take off like the wind.

ranger

[ranger]

I'll try to post 8 x 500m @ 1:35, 4 x 1K @ 1:38, and 4 x 2K @ 1:42 this week.

That will never happen.

You're a predictable naydoer.

Just post a single 500M to the C2 Log, I for one would be happy with that.

You don't like 2Ks?

When it comes to racing, 2K is a pretty popular distance, no?



Lately, I have been posting 2Ks right and left.

I'll do another one Saturday in Detroit.

Why don't you stop being a nay-doer and post a bunch of 2Ks, too.

We can have a party.

I won some money last week with a 2K.

I'll buy the refreshments with it.

Just BYOSS (Bring Your Own Screen Shot)



ranger

[hjs]

before I forget, and that's easy given the very predictable way the year is going.

The races thusfar:

7.11.x
6.41.6
6.50.4

plus 4 DNS around.


Furtermore not one promissed shot show on any distance, although 500 meters 8x500 5k 4x2k ect have been promissed.
But out off the blue there is a 6.48 2k posted, although slightly above weight....

The good thing is now that the weight is fine , although from the first moment het said that is it really being the case took monthssss.
And he is been sharpening for a good 2 months now.

[ranger]

The Devil went down to Georgia,
He was lookin' for a _soul_ to _steal_...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDm_ZHyYTrg

ranger

[ranger]

The races thus far:

Only takes one, Henry.

I'll get it this Saturday.

A strong AT race.

2K, 1:38 @ 32 spm.

Then I'll be ready for a couple of months of hard sharpening: AT, TR, AN.

Training is coming along _beautifully_.

I am rowing right on my targets.

1:38 is AT for a 6:16 2K.

ranger

[hjs]

The races thus far:

Only takes one, Henry.


ranger

Yes but the erg is a simple truthmachine...............

someone who can pull 6.28 let alone 6.16 will never ever row row 6.50 in a race. Next weekend is your last change this racing season, if you pull a second low 6.40 you will have improved on you last season.



ps little free advice, stay away from that fright, next offseason, that way you will be able to race from the beginning

[ranger]

Save a horse (ride a cowboy)

http://www.truveo.com/Big-Rich-Save-A-H ... 1048914848



ranger

[ranger]

Everything is going great with me, Henry.

_You're_ the one that's broken up and hurtin'.

Sorry about that, but what can I say?

Get some sense, Henry.

Stop hangin' your head.

_Your_ rowing dreams are dead.

Mine are just being born.

No use cryin' over spilt milk.

Time to be a man, Henry, rather than a wimpy baby.

Your chatter here is pathetic, dude.

Get a life.

ranger

[hjs]

Everything is going great with me, Henry.

_You're_ the one that's broken up and hurtin'.

Not me.

Sorry about that, but what can I say?

Get some sense, Henry.

Stop hangin' your head.

_Your_ rowing dreams are dead.

Mine are just being born.

No use cryin' over spilt milk.

Time to be a man, rather than a wimpy baby.

ranger

Rowing dreams ????? hahahaha I have never rowed, I only erged a bit, and it's alway's been a part of my training. Never my goal, and if i had any goals I did reach them, I did not drift away from hem further every year....


And when I look in the mirror and compare that to the man I saw in the flesh a few year back and read this posting I can only gniffle

[lancs]

A strong AT race.

2K, 1:38 @ 32 spm.

Why the obsession in claiming this (thus far fictional) 2k to be an AT piece?

Do you even know what AT means? Does the fact that you can't hold your alleged 'AT' pace for 1k suggest to you that in fact it's a little more than an AT pace?

And I'm talking about now, 2010 and at weight. Not 7 years back in 2003 or when you're fully hydrated and a few kilos over weight..

[leadville]

<snip> But when he time and again belittles others and posts profanity when challenged I thinks it's time to clean house.

Not if you're a compulsive liar and have difficulty recalling the last lie that you told.

You're the liar, asshole, not me.

I rest my case.

becz

I agree with your characterization of ranger and disagree w others who say r responds positively. That's a ridiculous assertion.

As to whether our hero should be banned I leave that up to Citroën et al. Rangerboy is rather amusing, sort of a tragic hero except he's such a jerk few view him positively.

[mikvan52]

A strong AT race.

2K, 1:38 @ 32 spm.

Why the obsession in claiming this (thus far fictional) 2k to be an AT piece?

Do you even know what AT means? Does the fact that you can't hold your alleged 'AT' pace for 1k suggest to you that in fact it's a little more than an AT pace?

And I'm talking about now, 2010 and at weight. Not 7 years back in 2003 or when you're fully hydrated and a few kilos over weight..

Hi Lancs! Great to see you again.

It has dawned on me, as it probably has on you that the only thing we actually learn from ranger here on his various blogo-blovo-threads is:

~~~~~what it means to be a troll ~~~~~~~~


Rich has no intention of ever testing himself for AT or discussing AT in any other context than fiction intended to upset others.

If someone like a Carl Watts comes on this thread as a newbie and asks what Rich's 500m time is (a fair question,BTW) : ALL ranger will say is that it is either forthcoming or not important.... just to upset a newbie

In the end this is why we don't dismiss ranger completely and ignore him... We think we can induce him to produce facts... Rich is too smart for this.... being a master troll

What I'm waiting for will come about 4 years from now: When father time really puts on the brakes on a 64 year old's 2k times ~~ the ones he does in competition.... Rich will be firmly in the slower tan 6:50 range..
Will he still be talking about 6:28?!!

Will we still check in to see what he's doing?
Will we still bother to try to discuss training with him?

A what length of time will we, his addicted audience, give up on this soap opera?

The ranger soap opera will eventually end.. His legacy will forever remain:
Wild Claims, No Details of Training, Mystery.

All hail HRH Von ManBatt, TSO !!!

Most have seen the Baron Von Munchausen facsimile cover I created a while back. I repost it here.

as This thread is about repetition... not going forward with anything new....

[mikvan52]

FYI:

This is the actual cover of the original work for whom ranger's psychological condition was named...



scary, isn't it ???