New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Autoland » November 3rd, 2021, 6:40 pm

DavidA wrote:
November 3rd, 2021, 3:23 pm

Congratulations on being in the PB zone!

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Thank you David!

Pretty impressive logbook you have there.
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500 1:54.5; 2k 8:05.5; 5k 20:54.6; 10k 42:20.6; HM 1:34:22.6
30' 7126; 60' 13777

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » November 4th, 2021, 3:40 am

btlifter wrote:
November 3rd, 2021, 1:18 pm
Thanks everybody!

Martin: No 'sprint training' to speak of. But, I lift heavy weights and do a fair bit of quick intervals. So, I imagine that I'm pretty well trained for it, anyway.

Paul: yeah, I aways have my partner standing on the front + a sandbag on the back if I'm trying to sprint. Not sure what my LP was. It all happened too quickly to notice, haha
:) yeah, I think your physique and strength for sprint rowing could be worse :wink:
No real sprint training makes this even more impressive! If you train a bit more for it I think you could be sub 13 pretty fast. I don't want to compare myself with you, but when I started to work on my 100m technique and erg setup (fixed to the ground, feet as high as possible, non-slip shorts, rating) I was able to improve by about 1'' without strength or endurance improvements.
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by btlifter » November 4th, 2021, 9:05 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
November 4th, 2021, 3:40 am
btlifter wrote:
November 3rd, 2021, 1:18 pm
Thanks everybody!

Martin: No 'sprint training' to speak of. But, I lift heavy weights and do a fair bit of quick intervals. So, I imagine that I'm pretty well trained for it, anyway.

Paul: yeah, I aways have my partner standing on the front + a sandbag on the back if I'm trying to sprint. Not sure what my LP was. It all happened too quickly to notice, haha
:) yeah, I think your physique and strength for sprint rowing could be worse :wink:
No real sprint training makes this even more impressive! If you train a bit more for it I think you could be sub 13 pretty fast. I don't want to compare myself with you, but when I started to work on my 100m technique and erg setup (fixed to the ground, feet as high as possible, non-slip shorts, rating) I was able to improve by about 1'' without strength or endurance improvements.
Cheers, Martin, fingers crossed!

I'm curious about the "feet as high as possible" part. I do put my feet 1 notch higher for sprinting and it feels like that translates to a little more power. I assume this is because it creates a shorter lever arm (like keeping the bar close to body when deadlifting). If that's the case, how come we move our feet lower for longer pieces? Is it just to open the angle a little bit and create more room for a longer stroke?
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » November 4th, 2021, 3:30 pm

btlifter wrote:
November 4th, 2021, 9:05 am
MartinSH4321 wrote:
November 4th, 2021, 3:40 am
btlifter wrote:
November 3rd, 2021, 1:18 pm
Thanks everybody!

Martin: No 'sprint training' to speak of. But, I lift heavy weights and do a fair bit of quick intervals. So, I imagine that I'm pretty well trained for it, anyway.

Paul: yeah, I aways have my partner standing on the front + a sandbag on the back if I'm trying to sprint. Not sure what my LP was. It all happened too quickly to notice, haha
:) yeah, I think your physique and strength for sprint rowing could be worse :wink:
No real sprint training makes this even more impressive! If you train a bit more for it I think you could be sub 13 pretty fast. I don't want to compare myself with you, but when I started to work on my 100m technique and erg setup (fixed to the ground, feet as high as possible, non-slip shorts, rating) I was able to improve by about 1'' without strength or endurance improvements.
Cheers, Martin, fingers crossed!

I'm curious about the "feet as high as possible" part. I do put my feet 1 notch higher for sprinting and it feels like that translates to a little more power. I assume this is because it creates a shorter lever arm (like keeping the bar close to body when deadlifting). If that's the case, how come we move our feet lower for longer pieces? Is it just to open the angle a little bit and create more room for a longer stroke?
Yeah, I think that's right. For me, the higher the feet the more it feels like a deadlift, and also the more stable I am on the seat. With feet in normal position I lift my whole body up from the seat when sprinting, don't know if it's a technique issue or because of high force and rating (around 60). Maybe feet higher will help you too.
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by gouldilocks » November 5th, 2021, 2:54 am

btlifter wrote:
November 4th, 2021, 9:05 am
MartinSH4321 wrote:
November 4th, 2021, 3:40 am
btlifter wrote:
November 3rd, 2021, 1:18 pm
Thanks everybody!

Martin: No 'sprint training' to speak of. But, I lift heavy weights and do a fair bit of quick intervals. So, I imagine that I'm pretty well trained for it, anyway.

Paul: yeah, I aways have my partner standing on the front + a sandbag on the back if I'm trying to sprint. Not sure what my LP was. It all happened too quickly to notice, haha
:) yeah, I think your physique and strength for sprint rowing could be worse :wink:
No real sprint training makes this even more impressive! If you train a bit more for it I think you could be sub 13 pretty fast. I don't want to compare myself with you, but when I started to work on my 100m technique and erg setup (fixed to the ground, feet as high as possible, non-slip shorts, rating) I was able to improve by about 1'' without strength or endurance improvements.
Cheers, Martin, fingers crossed!

I'm curious about the "feet as high as possible" part. I do put my feet 1 notch higher for sprinting and it feels like that translates to a little more power. I assume this is because it creates a shorter lever arm (like keeping the bar close to body when deadlifting). If that's the case, how come we move our feet lower for longer pieces? Is it just to open the angle a little bit and create more room for a longer stroke?
Cam, I think the main reason for the high feet is that your angle of force is then slightly downwards - when your feet are lower you tend to push slightly upwards and when sprinting can easily come off the seat.

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100m - 15.0, 2k - 6:46.7, 5k - 17:37.2
HM - 1:19:21.5, FM - 2:47:40
200km - 18:28:30 24hr - 251621m

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » November 5th, 2021, 11:35 am

btlifter wrote:
November 3rd, 2021, 1:21 pm
KeithT wrote:
November 3rd, 2021, 12:57 pm

Wow! I cant wrap my head around these sort of sprints - I am still a better sprinter than distance person but I don't have that super low pull power. I rely on holding decently fast splits to get results. Even when I was a little stronger I still didn't have that explosiveness. I also start seeing worse results when DF is that high. Anyway, this about you and you crushed it!!!
Cheers, Keith. I'm sorta similar. The 1k is my sweetspot; I have a fair bit of strength, but am not as quick/explosive as the absolute best over the true "sprint" distances. Fortunately, my conditioning is more developed than most "sprinters".
1K is my best distance as well. Last year I made good improvements in longer rows but my 1K is always my best when compared to others in my age group. It does seem to incorporate strength and capacity fairly evenly.
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1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » November 7th, 2021, 12:29 pm

Full speed erg yanking after some weights 😁... PB by 0.3s.

0:17.0 100m 1:25.0 52
0:04.7 25m 1:34.0 52
0:04.1 50m 1:22.0 59
0:04.1 75m 1:22.0 58
0:04.1 100m 1:22.0 43
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » November 7th, 2021, 1:15 pm

winniewinser wrote:
November 7th, 2021, 12:29 pm
Full speed erg yanking after some weights 😁... PB by 0.3s.

0:17.0 100m 1:25.0 52
0:04.7 25m 1:34.0 52
0:04.1 50m 1:22.0 59
0:04.1 75m 1:22.0 58
0:04.1 100m 1:22.0 43
Well done Alex, that's a great improvement for 100m! If you do it BEFORE weights you may get sub17 next time :wink: :D
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » November 7th, 2021, 2:04 pm

winniewinser wrote:
November 7th, 2021, 12:29 pm
Full speed erg yanking after some weights 😁... PB by 0.3s.

0:17.0 100m 1:25.0 52
0:04.7 25m 1:34.0 52
0:04.1 50m 1:22.0 59
0:04.1 75m 1:22.0 58
0:04.1 100m 1:22.0 43
Well done Al. I don't think I've ever tried to do a 100m
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » November 7th, 2021, 3:29 pm

MartinSH4321 wrote:
November 7th, 2021, 1:15 pm
Well done Alex, that's a great improvement for 100m! If you do it BEFORE weights you may get sub17 next time :wink: :D
16.9 is a target now for sure 🙏👊
Dangerscouse wrote:
November 7th, 2021, 2:04 pm
Well done Al. I don't think I've ever tried to do a 100m
Cheers. Not sure you can call this rowing as form takes a back seat 😁
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dutch » November 7th, 2021, 5:55 pm

winniewinser wrote:
November 7th, 2021, 12:29 pm
Full speed erg yanking after some weights 😁... PB by 0.3s.

0:17.0 100m 1:25.0 52
0:04.7 25m 1:34.0 52
0:04.1 50m 1:22.0 59
0:04.1 75m 1:22.0 58
0:04.1 100m 1:22.0 43
Nice one Alex, on a bit of a roll at the moment :P
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by max_ratcliffe » November 8th, 2021, 12:06 am

winniewinser wrote:
November 7th, 2021, 12:29 pm
Full speed erg yanking after some weights 😁... PB by 0.3s.

0:17.0 100m 1:25.0 52
0:04.7 25m 1:34.0 52
0:04.1 50m 1:22.0 59
0:04.1 75m 1:22.0 58
0:04.1 100m 1:22.0 43
Well done Alex. Crazy event!
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » November 8th, 2021, 4:10 am

Dutch wrote:
November 7th, 2021, 5:55 pm
Nice one Alex, on a bit of a roll at the moment :P
max_ratcliffe wrote:
November 8th, 2021, 12:06 am
Well done Alex. Crazy event!
Cheers chaps :D
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » November 8th, 2021, 12:03 pm

winniewinser wrote:
November 7th, 2021, 12:29 pm
Full speed erg yanking after some weights 😁... PB by 0.3s.

0:17.0 100m 1:25.0 52
0:04.7 25m 1:34.0 52
0:04.1 50m 1:22.0 59
0:04.1 75m 1:22.0 58
0:04.1 100m 1:22.0 43
Nice - happy to see you one the PB thread again.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » November 8th, 2021, 12:26 pm

KeithT wrote:
November 8th, 2021, 12:03 pm
winniewinser wrote:
November 7th, 2021, 12:29 pm
Full speed erg yanking after some weights 😁... PB by 0.3s.

0:17.0 100m 1:25.0 52
0:04.7 25m 1:34.0 52
0:04.1 50m 1:22.0 59
0:04.1 75m 1:22.0 58
0:04.1 100m 1:22.0 43
Nice - happy to see you one the PB thread again.
Thx Keith......picking some easy fruit. My other row PB's seem a long way off and I am reluctant to push too hard too often atm.....health before ego :)

Maybe some Skierg stuff to come though.
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