Ranger's training thread
Re: Ranger's training thread
I'd call that a 1:31r30, not a 1:30. Just sneaking under 1:31 on the last stroke does not a 1:30 make.
In fact, if you add up all the split times (and don't go by average split) it comes out to exactly 1:31
In fact, if you add up all the split times (and don't go by average split) it comes out to exactly 1:31
Re: Ranger's training thread
Hey.
Speaking of money for nothin' and chicks for free, how many of you gym rats out there anticipated the housing bubble in the stock market?
I took all of my retirement money out of the market before the crash and, when blood was in the streets, started buying back in, and have been buying back in every since.
The market is now up %100 from its lows.
I have doubled my money in five years.
Nice!
I did the same thing with the tech bubble back in 2000.
So now I have quadrupled my money over the last ten years, while the stock market has made nothing.
Nice!
It pays to invest in the future.
Moment time is great, for a moment.
Performance is everything!
Then it sucks, big time.
You lose your shirt and end up slogging around in a slough of despond for the rest of your life.
ranger
Speaking of money for nothin' and chicks for free, how many of you gym rats out there anticipated the housing bubble in the stock market?
I took all of my retirement money out of the market before the crash and, when blood was in the streets, started buying back in, and have been buying back in every since.
The market is now up %100 from its lows.
I have doubled my money in five years.
Nice!
I did the same thing with the tech bubble back in 2000.
So now I have quadrupled my money over the last ten years, while the stock market has made nothing.
Nice!
It pays to invest in the future.
Moment time is great, for a moment.
Performance is everything!
Then it sucks, big time.
You lose your shirt and end up slogging around in a slough of despond for the rest of your life.
ranger
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Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
Re: Ranger's training thread
True.goblin wrote:I'd call that a 1:31r30, not a 1:30. Just sneaking under 1:31 on the last stroke does not a 1:30 make.
In fact, if you add up all the split times (and don't go by average split) it comes out to exactly 1:31
15.5 SPI, not 16 SPI
I don't know what came over me when I said I pulled 1:30 rather than 1:30.9.
I never make mistakes like that.


I am always accurate, exact, precise--true, just, good, beautiful.


ranger
Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
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Re: Ranger's training thread
I make no mention of SPI or rate. If you are much better now, post 1 x 500m at 1:30 or less at any rate.ranger wrote:I no longer row at 16 SPI, max drag, and restricted rates.snowleopard wrote:You were a hwt when you posted those 500s (allegedly rowed by you) and when you rowed at Baltimore.ranger wrote:I suspect that no lightweight can pull 500r30 @ 1:30 who can't pull sub-6:30 for 2K, perhaps sub-6:20.
If you are much better now it will be a simple matter to post a pic' of a sub 1:30 hwt 500 in the next 12 hours.
I row at 13 SPI and low drag (119 df.), free rate.
I am _much_ better now than I was back in 2007.
The training I did for several years at 16 SPI was just work on technique.
ranger
Re: Ranger's training thread
I suspect that I'll do 1:24 for 500m, when I get around to it--13 SPI @ 46 spm.snowleopard wrote:post 1 x 500m at 1:30 or less at any rate.
500m trials are off in the future, though.
I am training for distance trials right now.
First up, a FM.
Like 500m @ 1:24, a FM @ 1:48 predicts a 1:34/6:16 2K.
ranger
Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
Re: Ranger's training thread
Ranger the Loser. Did not even have the courtesy to tell C2 you would not be at WIRC. Your race is on and you would never even get close to Spousta. You are pathetic.
JD
Age: 51; H: 6"5'; W: 172 lbs;
Age: 51; H: 6"5'; W: 172 lbs;
Re: Ranger's training thread
Marullo really has a nice stroke, especially at the footplate.
He is getting a full drive with his quads off the balls of his feet and then, after planting his heels, a full drive with his hams and gluts, before he swings his back.
And he's big.
6'5", 225 lbs.?
He had a shot at Ripley's record today.
Great race.
One of the best 50s hwt rows in the history of the B's.
6:10
Better than Foss in 2003.
But...
Ripley's record lives on.
Amazing.
1998
Ripley's record has now stood there, untouched, in certain ways, unapproached, for 13 years.
Will it stand forever?
ranger
He is getting a full drive with his quads off the balls of his feet and then, after planting his heels, a full drive with his hams and gluts, before he swings his back.
And he's big.
6'5", 225 lbs.?
He had a shot at Ripley's record today.
Great race.
One of the best 50s hwt rows in the history of the B's.
6:10
Better than Foss in 2003.
But...
Ripley's record lives on.
Amazing.
1998
Ripley's record has now stood there, untouched, in certain ways, unapproached, for 13 years.
Will it stand forever?
ranger
Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
Re: Ranger's training thread
Happy to.snowleopard wrote: I make no mention of SPI or rate. If you are much better now, post 1 x 500m at 1:30 or less at any rate.
But only in the flow of my training.
I am training for a FM at the moment.
My pb, from almost a decade ago, is 1:54/2:40.
So, sure, this FM trial will be a good test of whether I am better than I used to be.
The 60s hwt FM WR is 1:54/2:40.
The 60s lwt FM WR is 2:00/2:48.
My target is 1:48/2:32.
1:48/2:32 is Rob Slocum's long-standing 50s hwt FM WR.
Slocum's FM WR has stood for almost as long as Ripley's 2K WR.
2000.
11 years.
To pull 2:32 for a FM, I'll only have to hold my technique together and rate 22 spm.
119 df., 4.2-to-1 ratio
"Steamroller"
ranger
Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
Re: Ranger's training thread
Which year did Crash B's switched from Model C's to Model D's? I've always been suspicious that it was easier to pull faster times on a model C, and its sure been a while since a heavyweight has broken 5:40 at Crash B's. Conlin McCabe, who I've heard pulled an 18:34 6k at Washington in January, might have a chance.
Re: Ranger's training thread
You didn't do it either, your pace was more like 1:31, not 1:30! And there is no evidence you could even do that now.ranger wrote:Could Mike Caviston, Graham Watt, Paul Siebach, Stu Bizzari, Lancs, etc., pull 500r30 @ 1:30?
It would be a close call.
My guess would be no.
ranger
The improvement gotten by claiming 1:30.9 is 1:30 over 2k is just about the sum total of your improvement of the 50s let 2k WR (before your efforts were relegated to the dustbin of history) so let us not hear any talk of how the difference is inconsequential!
Re: Ranger's training thread
I understand that ranger's 6:16 destroyed the competition at CRASH-Bs and shattered the WR for both his age group and the 55-59 group. Even more amazing is he did it as a lightweight setting both heavyweight and lightweight records in both categories. His stroke was beautiful, smooth and natural. Everybody was gathered in front of his erg watching with Mike Caviston and the King of Sweden leading the cheers singing Ride a Cowboy to ranger's perfect rhythm and SPI. In a stroke of luck Mike van Beuren happened to be assigned to ranger as a cox'n, but never said a thing to him. In the interviews afterwards Mike vB said there was no need to cox perfection. Mike C crowned ranger as best athlete in the universe and begged ranger to be his best friend. Ranger confessed he was just learning to row and that he hadn't even sharpened and that he's much faster now.
Re: Ranger's training thread
As I watch the CRASH-Bs, with only a couple of exceptions, the difference in technique between the younger rowers and the veterans is glaring.
Don't you think?
The difference between the two, I would suggest, is largely technical.
On the whole, veterans don't row well.
Their slow times are due much more to technical deficiencies than declines in aerobic capacity.
ranger
Don't you think?
The difference between the two, I would suggest, is largely technical.
On the whole, veterans don't row well.
Their slow times are due much more to technical deficiencies than declines in aerobic capacity.
ranger
Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
Re: Ranger's training thread
Paul Siebach has now lost 10 seconds over 2K in two years.
Steve Krum has lost 15 seconds over 2K in a couple of years.
Tore Foss has lost close to 40 seconds over 2K in 10 years.
Wow.
Life is short.
Then you die.
ranger
Steve Krum has lost 15 seconds over 2K in a couple of years.
Tore Foss has lost close to 40 seconds over 2K in 10 years.
Wow.
Life is short.
Then you die.
ranger
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Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
Re: Ranger's training thread
Over the next couple of years, I think I will pb by large margins, at all distances, including 2K, relative to my rowing ten years ago.
I guess you need to know how to train, if you want to get better, rather than, precipitously, just worse and worse.
ranger
I guess you need to know how to train, if you want to get better, rather than, precipitously, just worse and worse.
ranger
Rich Cureton M 72 5'11" 165 lbs. 2K pbs: 6:27.5 (hwt), 6:28 (lwt)
Re: Ranger's training thread
And you lost 21 seconds over 2K in a SINGLE year!ranger wrote:Paul Siebach has now lost 10 seconds over 2K in two years.
Steve Krum has lost 15 seconds over 2K in a couple of years.
Tore Foss has lost close to 40 seconds over 2K in 10 years.
Wow.
Life is short.
Then you die.
ranger
You shouldn't throw stones when living in glass houses.
I'm sure that you will claim that you weren't prepared, just paddled it, etc. But the facts don't lie.
35y, 6'4", 215 lbs, 2k(6:19.5), 5k(16:45.5), 6k(20:15.5), 10k(34:41.3), HM(1:17:44.0)