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Can this one team row to the moon and back?

Poll ended at May 17th, 2008, 12:28 pm

I think we can do it together. I'm all in!
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No way! You all are wacko!
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Total votes: 54

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Re: And Gabriella Passes The TWO MILLION MARK Also

Post by bg » March 23rd, 2008, 5:25 am

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DuluthMoose wrote:OK, maybe you got me on the gorilla stats. I guess I'm too tall at 73", but fit right in at the lower end of their weight range. Darryl B.
... so, kind of like this? :)

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Re: And Gabriella Passes The TWO MILLION MARK Also

Post by DuluthMoose » March 23rd, 2008, 7:05 am

just27 wrote:
DuluthMoose wrote:OK, maybe you got me on the gorilla stats. I guess I'm too tall at 73", but fit right in at the lower end of their weight range. Darryl B.
... so, kind of like this? :)


Thanks for the laugh Chris. Good thing I wasn't sipping coffee when I first saw the picture this morining.

So to answer your question - there is some resemblance there, however, your gorilla in the picture obviously has no taste in canoes. For a barrel chested high center of gravity gorilla to be able to stand in a canoe means that boat is a real flat bottomed, beamy, and very slow barge. I prefer the sleek, narrow, long, shallow arched bottom, and very fast performance models myself. These tend to be a little tender (tippy), and I triple dog dare your gorilla to stand up in one! Life is too short to be paddling a mediocre canoe! Darryl B.

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All In A Day's ERG: Team Progress Thru 3.22.08

Post by Kona2 » March 23rd, 2008, 10:22 am

Great canoe gorilla graphics, Chris! You must have worked on that one for awhile! Also, great new photo from Chris!

39 Million Meters! Our stalwart crew crossed the 39 million meter mark yesterday as multiple milestones were met! Amazing!

Season meters to date = 39,096,121 m We are in 11th place overall.

Total meters on the day = 286,295 m

30 percent participation! Thanks everyone!

Milestones!

2.0 MM Gabriella
2.0 MM Darryl
1.4 MM Mitch
400K Helen
50K Joseph

March Madness:

5K =5 ImageImageImageImageImage
10K = 11 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

And the Pot of Gold goes to:

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Disclaimer! Multiple days of posted numbers may be included here. Team members with multiple daily postings on a given day will have their meters roll up to a single number: otherwise such daily numbers might suggest need for Image

Angelo 61,224 m
Gabriella 44,083 m (2nd in leaderboard in NARC for Luna-Tics!)
Jane 25,034 m (heads up the leaderboard in NARC for Luna-Tics!)
Chris 24,026 m
Mike 21,666 m
Darryl 17,246 m
Joseph 15,123 m
Jan 13,000 m
Rowin 12,015 m
Dan 11,122 m
Mitch 11,103 m
Mary 7,249 m
Pat B 6,024 m
Helen 6,000 m
Tony 5,480 m
AJ 5,000 m
Rae 1,000 m

Have a MARVELOUS day - however you spend it!

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Post by Calamity » March 23rd, 2008, 10:58 am

With our total passing 38,400,000 meters, we are over 10% of our goal to row to the moon as a team.
Question: Does anyone know what the total luna-tic meters are of all time, all seasons and our guest rowers for various challenges?
Jane

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Re: Thanks Karyn and Gina for Rowing vs Erging Info

Post by kgallagher » March 23rd, 2008, 12:54 pm

So Karyn and Gina I'm curious about the proper way to set (or trim as I call it in canoeing) say an 8 person hull with both lighter and heavier rowers? or with a significant tailwind? or with a significant headwind? Also does the way you load the rowers in the hull for set factor in that the stern will naturally lower than the bow in a fast moving hull (paddling up the hull speed wave)? And are there any small gorilla sized folks that are any good in racing hulls? Thanks.
Darryl B.,
The set of an eight is more of a port to starboard issue than a bow to stern. That being said, there are still general ideas of where different people are placed in a boat. The stern pair are generally your best rowers technically and also good with timing and communicating to the coxswain. The seats are numbered from bow to stern starting with one as the bow seat. So the stern pair are 8 & 7. Then the middle four are considered your engine room and usually are the 4 strongest rowers in the boat with 5 & 6 seats being the strongest. As you move towards the bow, generally you are putting your smaller or lighter bodies their. Part of the idea is that you don't want the heaviest person in the bow causing the bow to sit lower in the water.

When it comes to tail wind and head wind the style of rowing is adjusted, mostly with the timing of when to feather and square up the blades. Although we do tend to layback at the finish a little more into a head wind.

There are people of all shapes, sizes, and ages who row. I am a member of a club with rowers from 16 to 80+, men and women, light and heavy. I'm not exactly certain what size a small gorilla is, but I do row with guys who are my height (5'4") and a little stocky. They make boats to meet the needs of all different sized people. So I bet a small gorilla would fit just fine.

Karyn

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Post by Kona2 » March 23rd, 2008, 1:09 pm

Jane,

Kristine S may know the answer to the total meters question - and even she will probably defer to Dena H of Concept2. During the JVC, seems that with EVERYONE rowing in the challenge that we made it to the moon. By ourselves, as you indicate, it is a really long journey. I believe Kristine indicated that prior the this year's JVC, there were few people on the year-round team. She would have the history of the team's formation - as would Matt F.

Did Orion get sore muscles from rowing?

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Re: Total Meters for All Time, Seasons, Challenges

Post by Toothdoc » March 23rd, 2008, 1:36 pm

Kona2 wrote:Jane,

Kristine S may know the answer to the total meters question - and even she will probably defer to Dena H of Concept2. During the JVC, seems that with EVERYONE rowing in the challenge that we made it to the moon. By ourselves, as you indicate, it is a really long journey. I believe Kristine indicated that prior the this year's JVC, there were few people on the year-round team. She would have the history of the team's formation - as would Matt F.

Did Orion get sore muscles from rowing?
Jan,

With a little research; the moon is 238,900 miles or 384,000 KM.
At it's closest (Perigee) it is a mere 356,410 KM.

That would work out to 384,000,000 meters for the average distance or 356,410,000 meters for the closest.

We have currently rowed 39,168,538 meters and that equates to 10.2% (Average distance) or 10.9% (Closest distance) of the way there. Depending on which distance you choose to use. Now if you were a rocket scientist you would pick the shortest distance.

We are gainin' on it.

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I'm usually really good with numbers

Post by Kona2 » March 23rd, 2008, 2:25 pm

About this moon distance thing.....what I meant was that if we utilized all the meters rowed by every participant (including other teams) of the 2008 JVC, I believe at that time that we collectively had rowed the distance to the moon plus some. The Luna-Tics team, year-round, for this season only has rowed the 10.2% to the moon.

I think we would have to count back to all the Luna-Tic team meters (whenever it first started), add in all the challenge meters by the challenge Luna-Tics (which can include the temporarily and "permanently" Luna-Tic) to determine how far we actually are on our mission. Clearly we will either need to get a really big team or count consecutive seasons to get to the moon! I guess I look at this as our space journey - we may run into a few nebulous moments, an asteroid or two, run aground with our boats in sea space....having fun, getting/staying healthy!

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Re: Total Meters for All Time, Seasons, Challenges

Post by Calamity » March 23rd, 2008, 5:45 pm

Did Orion get sore muscles from rowing?

Not exactly. I pulled up the driveway to find my 3 year old sitting on the erg on the backporch. Elias, are you rowing, I asked hopefully. Well not exactly. Elias had been pouring cupfulls of dirt around the backporch including one over the flywheel of the model b I have. remember, I just cleaned and oiled everything and model b has an open cage? After expressing my disappointment, the babysitter came out unaware of what he had been doing. I go in the house and Orion comes out to see what the problem is. I tell him not to touch the erg. I go back out on the porch a couple minutes later as Orion is walking away from a spinning flywheel. Now imagine where the dirt is. Friday Orion posted no meters.
Jane
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Post by acrewer » March 23rd, 2008, 5:56 pm

Oh the joys of a 3 year old! - imagine the dirt hitting the fan. If you are lucky, you will one day have teenagers - you don't want to know what THEY DO!

Sorry about the cleanup, hopefully your kids profit from the 'learning experience.'

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Re: Total Meters for All Time, Seasons, Challenges

Post by just27 » March 23rd, 2008, 7:16 pm

Toothdoc wrote:
Kona2 wrote:During the JVC, with EVERYONE rowing in the challenge, we made it to the moon. By ourselves ... it is a really long journey.
Jan: We have currently rowed 39,168,538 meters and that equates to 10.2% of the way there. We are gainin' on it. Dan
"Everyone on Earth was talking on their cell phones and we almost ran into the Moon." (But, hey, if we're only 10.2% of the way there, I won't worry about it yet.)
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Re: Thanks Karyn and Gina for Rowing vs Erging Info

Post by DuluthMoose » March 23rd, 2008, 8:54 pm

kgallagher wrote:
So Karyn and Gina I'm curious about the proper way to set (or trim as I call it in canoeing) say an 8 person hull with both lighter and heavier rowers? or with a significant tailwind? or with a significant headwind? Also does the way you load the rowers in the hull for set factor in that the stern will naturally lower than the bow in a fast moving hull (paddling up the hull speed wave)? And are there any small gorilla sized folks that are any good in racing hulls? Thanks.
Darryl B.,
The set of an eight is more of a port to starboard issue than a bow to stern. That being said, there are still general ideas of where different people are placed in a boat. The stern pair are generally your best rowers technically and also good with timing and communicating to the coxswain. The seats are numbered from bow to stern starting with one as the bow seat. So the stern pair are 8 & 7. Then the middle four are considered your engine room and usually are the 4 strongest rowers in the boat with 5 & 6 seats being the strongest. As you move towards the bow, generally you are putting your smaller or lighter bodies their. Part of the idea is that you don't want the heaviest person in the bow causing the bow to sit lower in the water.

When it comes to tail wind and head wind the style of rowing is adjusted, mostly with the timing of when to feather and square up the blades. Although we do tend to layback at the finish a little more into a head wind.

There are people of all shapes, sizes, and ages who row. I am a member of a club with rowers from 16 to 80+, men and women, light and heavy. I'm not exactly certain what size a small gorilla is, but I do row with guys who are my height (5'4") and a little stocky. They make boats to meet the needs of all different sized people. So I bet a small gorilla would fit just fine.

Karyn


Thanks Karyn (and Gina),
Interesting information on loading rowing shells. I asked because positioning the load in a canoe for traveling in wind is also critical. Loading a canoe is much like balancing a teeter totter on a fulcrum with level being the fastest and most efficient, but when the wind blows there will also be a pivot point on that canoe and the heavier more wind resistant portion of the canoe will want to point into the wind like a weathervane. And thats what sliding seats in performance solo canoes are all about - shifting your weight to be able to control the canoe in wind. Darryl

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Re: Total Meters for All Time, Seasons, Challenges

Post by Kristine Strasburger » March 24th, 2008, 2:20 am

Kona2 wrote:Jane,

Kristine S may know the answer to the total meters question - and even she will probably defer to Dena H of Concept2. During the JVC, seems that with EVERYONE rowing in the challenge that we made it to the moon. By ourselves, as you indicate, it is a really long journey. I believe Kristine indicated that prior the this year's JVC, there were few people on the year-round team. She would have the history of the team's formation - as would Matt F.
Unfortunately, I have no idea how many meters team LUNA-TICS has accumulated since the day Matt created it, and I'm not sure he would have that info either since the counters re-set every season. He might have a history view from his team manager page if he has one. I have a team manager page for the challenge team, but Matt might not have one for the regular team since there is really nothing to manage.

Dena at C2 might be able to pull up the team history. If she can, I will add the yearly meters the team has rowed on my intro post here in our Team Room so we can keep it handy for future reference. It would be pretty cool to have a team meters history to post.

The highest number of people I ever saw on year-round team LUNA-TICS at any given time was 6, and sometimes it dropped to 4 or 3. I joined a few months before the 2006 JVC. That was the first team challenge I competed in. LUNA-TICS challenge team consisted of all 6 existing year-round team members at the time. I did not know about forums back then. We did not have any team forum dialogue until this past JVC.

I think our household is finally over this past illness, and will start logging some meters again. Keith is the only one of us who has started rowing again. He got sick first, and was the first to get well.
☆~Kristine~☆

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Re: Total Meters for All Time, Seasons, Challenges

Post by Toothdoc » March 24th, 2008, 5:10 am

Kristine Strasburger wrote:
Kona2 wrote:Jane,

Kristine S may know the answer to the total meters question - and even she will probably defer to Dena H of Concept2. During the JVC, seems that with EVERYONE rowing in the challenge that we made it to the moon. By ourselves, as you indicate, it is a really long journey. I believe Kristine indicated that prior the this year's JVC, there were few people on the year-round team. She would have the history of the team's formation - as would Matt F.
Unfortunately, I have no idea how many meters team LUNA-TICS has accumulated since the day Matt created it, and I'm not sure he would have that info either since the counters re-set every season. He might have a history view from his team manager page if he has one. I have a team manager page for the challenge team, but Matt might not have one for the regular team since there is really nothing to manage.

Dena at C2 might be able to pull up the team history. If she can, I will add the yearly meters the team has rowed on my intro post here in our Team Room so we can keep it handy for future reference. It would be pretty cool to have a team meters history to post.

The highest number of people I ever saw on year-round team LUNA-TICS at any given time was 6, and sometimes it dropped to 4 or 3. I joined a few months before the 2006 JVC. That was the first team challenge I competed in. LUNA-TICS challenge team consisted of all 6 existing year-round team members at the time. I did not know about forums back then. We did not have any team forum dialogue until this past JVC.

I think our household is finally over this past illness, and will start logging some meters again. Keith is the only one of us who has started rowing again. He got sick first, and was the first to get well.
Kristine,

Glad everyone is returning to normal.


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All In A Day's ERG: Team Progress Thru 3.24.08

Post by Kona2 » March 24th, 2008, 10:25 am

It was a grand weekend of rowing for the Luna-Tics! Fabulous progress!

We're heading towards the dark side of the moon again as we go from full to gibbous! This team does appear to enjoy treks into the unknown!

Season meters to date = 39,299,444 m

Total meters on the day = 203,323 m
30 percent of our oars are in the water! We have several in sick bay, and send get well wishes to them!

Milestones!

60K Joseph
1.7 MM Tim

ONE Million Meter Watch:

Barbara with (18,841 m) to go! Will it be today or tomorrow???!
Tom with (82,203 m) to go!
Kristine with (95,895 m) to go!

TWO Million Meter Watch:

Angelo with (148,699 m)
Dan with (252,990 m)
Tim with (299,025 m)

March Madness Challenge: today's the day that the honor board starts to be posted for those with at least 25 days of rowing in March!

5K = 6 ImageImageImageImageImageImage

10K = 8 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

And the Pot of Gold goes to:

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Dan 33,689 m
Jane 24,010 m
Tim 23,750 m
Gabriella 22,002 m
Chris 13,022 m
Rodrigo 12,819 m
Barbara 10,050 m
Andrea 8,247 m
Karyn 7,789 m
Mary 7,240 m
Gina 7,008 m
Joseph 6,065 m
Rowin 6,000 m
Sorin 4,007 m
Rae 1,000 m
and

Orion 1,302 mImage :D

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