Concept2 Forum

eoinom · Post by **eoinom** » March 2nd, 2008, 7:48 am

you said i wouldnt beat a time of 36 mins listen im not going to argue with you i'll post pictures up of the end screen here on wednesday if you still dont believe me i'll see can i get someone to video it and post it on youtube failing that you'll have to come and see.

your calling me a liar is just you showing your ignorance i won't drag myself down to your level, i came on here looking for advice and you have been rude and condescending from the start.

John Foy · Post by **John Foy** » March 2nd, 2008, 7:53 am

If you went onto a sprinters forum and claimed you had just completed 100metres in 8 seconds, what reaction do you think you would get?

If you went onto a marathon runners forum and claimed you had just ran a marathon in 90 minutes what reaction do you think you would get?

If you went on a powerlifting forum and claimed you had just squatted 1250kg what reaction do you think you would get?

You are the one showing ignorance by claiming these times!

I know you are on a wind up so I don't know why I am wasting my time with you.

eoinom · Post by **eoinom** » March 2nd, 2008, 7:54 am

well , just check back wednesday

John Foy · Post by **John Foy** » March 2nd, 2008, 7:56 am

eoinom wrote:well , just check back wednesday

Seriously, you should invite a C2 representative and the Guinness book of world records to the gym on Wednesday.
Maybe invite the local radio and TV stations because what you are about to do will be superhuman.

I will send an email to the gym to tell them to get the people in but maybe you should also.

eoinom · Post by **eoinom** » March 2nd, 2008, 7:59 am

yeah yeah yeah, like i said i'll go back on wednesday and check make sure all my figures and everything are correct if there not ill come on here and happily apologise for wasting peoples time, lets cut out the slagging mate and sarcasim please. i know theres a possibility i could be wrong .

Pete Marston · Post by **Pete Marston** » March 2nd, 2008, 8:47 am

First of April is a month away yet....

Well done on winning a month's free membership. Breaking a 40min 10k I would not say is as easy as John makes out for the average gym user, so the challenge doesn't sound so stupid.

The machine is clearly wrong however. I don't think you are lying, or you would have picked a more believeable time. The monitor is just not giving a true reading.

The video of Olympic medalists may not look very different to you rowing on a concept2 rowing machine to you, but the power generation will be worlds apart, and to the "trained eye" it would look very different too.

You say you've done the marathon before. At your size to be able to row a 10k under 35mins I would think you marathon time is under 2hours 30, is that correct? To row a 10k under 34mins at your size perhaps under 2hours 20 for the marathon. To row under 33mins under 2 hours 10 for the marathon - you get the pattern.

The power production required to row a 10k in 28mins is just not humanly possible for that duration.

eoinom · Post by **eoinom** » March 2nd, 2008, 8:54 am

at last thank you for a sensible answer, that is the main point i was trying to make that the machine must be wrong because it gave me a time of 28 mins, i did watch the distance go down but thats what i was looking for at the start a sensible answer which you were the only person to give me instead i've been greeted with sarcasim and rudeness.

so thank you PETE i will try another machine and will apologise to all for wasting of time if the next machine produces another result.

Ps. lads chill a little im not claiming to be fit or great i just wanted to know what the crack was why this time came up , are the settings fu*ked etc. i'm sorry that its upset people .

hjs · Post by **hjs** » March 2nd, 2008, 8:57 am

eoinom wrote:hey all im new so go easy please, basically i was in my local gym yesterday and there was a challenge to row 10,000m on a rowing machine in less than 40mins for 6 months free membership and having never used a rowing machine before gave it a go. It was a concept 2 rowing machine and the setting at the back was on 6 or 5 cant remember sorry.
well inanyway i managed to do it in 28mins 46 seconds , was fairly tired afterwards but could of went alot quicker so i decided to look up on the internet at records for that distance it appears to be better than a world record surely it couldnt be, am i missing some important fact here ?? by the way im 26 male and weigh 71kg, sorry again if im been silly cant see what im missing go easy on me please im new .
thanks in advance for the response. eoin.

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either you made a mistake
or you are a windup.

A 28 min 10 k on a concept 2 is simply not possible. It would be the same if you said you ran a 100m in 7 seconds.

eoinom · Post by **eoinom** » March 2nd, 2008, 8:59 am

i'm starting to believe it is impossible judging by all the replys , i will try again on another machine that machine must somehow be wrong.
sorry if i have wasted peoples time here, they were the results on screen.

John Foy · Post by **John Foy** » March 2nd, 2008, 9:36 am

We get a lot of wind up merchants on here claiming all sorts of bull shit, hence my less than polite reply.

If you are genuine than I sincerely apologise for the way I responded to you.

Citroen · Post by **Citroen** » March 2nd, 2008, 12:46 pm

We need to know what model of rower and what monitor is fitted

http://www.concept2.com/us/support/rowers/
http://www.concept2.com/us/support/monitors/

If a PM3 or PM4 what firmware version is it running. If PM3 < V101 or PM4 < V21 then I'd recommend upgrading to current.

There's an interesting hidden menu on PM3/PM4. Start at main menu --> more options --> lcd contrast --> press change units three times then press change display three times. Check the model setting on there.

The other option would be to find someone else who has a Concept 2 rower and demonstrate your incredible feat on there.

Once complete a PM3/PM4 can generate a checksum code that can be used to verify the result.

zrower33 · Post by **zrower33** » March 2nd, 2008, 2:43 pm

eoinom wrote:i'm starting to believe it is impossible judging by all the replys , i will try again on another machine that machine must somehow be wrong.
sorry if i have wasted peoples time here, they were the results on screen.

You have wasted no one's time.... just an honest mistake. Like Pete said that time is literally impossible. Rob Waddell who recently set the 5k record was only able to hold a 1:29 pace.... which is insane. Your pace for 10k is faster then his 5k split

Rob is 6'7 and 225 pounds

So again there had to be a misread because with your smaller size the physiology is way off.... impossible to do

Best of luck on your wednesday test and hope to see the screen shot

johnlvs2run · Post by **johnlvs2run** » March 2nd, 2008, 2:56 pm

I'd use the same machine again as that's the one you used before for your record.

You've probably come on to a new method that was overlooked or scoffed at by the conventional hordes, i.e. using your biceps and moving faster on the railing. In fact at least one of the top rowers, Graham Benton, uses his biceps a lot but he's rather slow on the railing. I disagree that speed on the railing doesn't matter, as anyone can try 1 stroke a minute and see the slow average speed that results.

I'm looking forward to you breaking your record again. All the best!

Dickie · Post by **Dickie** » March 2nd, 2008, 3:03 pm

Because this guy is new to the machine, I wonder if he had it set to 10:00 Minutes and did 2800 meters that would be a Pace of 1:47.1 which would be very very good for a newbie but possible.

Fred Dickie

tomhz · Post by **tomhz** » March 2nd, 2008, 3:41 pm

John Rupp wrote: You've probably come on to a new method that was overlooked or scoffed at by the conventional hordes, i.e. using your biceps and moving faster on the railing. In fact at least one of the top rowers, Graham Benton, uses his biceps a lot but he's rather slow on the railing. I disagree that speed on the railing doesn't matter, as anyone can try 1 stroke a minute and see the slow average speed that results.

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