The 2008 Team Moto Madmen and Women

C3H6O3 · Post by **C3H6O3** » January 31st, 2008, 5:23 pm

Best of luck with your race, Michelle!

Hokie · Post by **Hokie** » January 31st, 2008, 7:11 pm

tatonka wrote:Done for the month! Hit my goal of 100,000 and feel pretty good about it. Thanks to everyone, you all definitely provided some inspiration.

tatonka ended up putting me to shame by 23K meters.
the weather was too nice to not go riding outside.

2whlrcr · Post by **2whlrcr** » January 31st, 2008, 8:03 pm

125shifter wrote:I've had a jacked up stomach for the last few days - have done only about 20kM (half of what I had planned) this week, but I did pull a PB 500M last night of 1:47.4 - 3 secs better than my last PB a week ago. I'm convinced that intervals are the key to building moto endurance. I've been doing the 250M/1:30r that Greg suggested last week and can already feel the dif.

Now I'll need to introduce some honest "competition" to the intervals to keep me pushing me.

I'm not sure I'd consider a 1:30-2:00 minute test, a test of moto endurance? But I would definately say it's a good test of power, strength and anaerobic skills.

2whlrcr · Post by **2whlrcr** » January 31st, 2008, 8:08 pm

C3H6O3 wrote:Ha! Saved the best for last.

21,097m in 1:31:42.9 which makes me the fastest half-marathoner in motocross! - of those that recorded a 'half' time this month but, hey, I'll take it.

Shaved nearly 4-minutes off of my best time.

That gives me 143,740m for the month of January.

Nice job Steve, but I predict you're going to get beat by an old guy again.

C3H6O3 · Post by **C3H6O3** » January 31st, 2008, 8:14 pm

Go get it, Mike.

2whlrcr · Post by **2whlrcr** » January 31st, 2008, 8:21 pm

C3H6O3 wrote:Go get it, Mike.

Now you just assumed it was me I was talking about.

I believe Sean is older than you by a year and he's gonna put both of us to shame, when he's fresh.

I'm just about ready to start my final row and if I tried it tonight, I would fail miserably. I have to be fresh, when I attempt PB's, or it's just a waste of time for me.

C3H6O3 · Post by **C3H6O3** » January 31st, 2008, 8:30 pm

2whlrcr wrote:Now you just assumed it was me I was talking about.

Yeah, the "old" threw me.

By the way, where has Sean been? Is it still the heel? I noticed that he hasn't logged any meters in two weeks! We could have really rocked if he hadn't gotten injured.

2whlrcr · Post by **2whlrcr** » January 31st, 2008, 10:15 pm

C3H6O3 wrote:
2whlrcr wrote:Now you just assumed it was me I was talking about.
Yeah, the "old" threw me. By the way, where has Sean been? Is it still the heel? I noticed that he hasn't logged any meters in two weeks! We could have really rocked if he hadn't gotten injured.

My intuition tells me that he has been rowing, but not logging the meters. I'm guessing that's not an uncommon practice to try hide your progress and not show your hand. It bet there will be more than several people who will wait and post there meters after the challenge is over. You have until February 5th to get the information in.

Maybe he just got burned out, injured, busy at work or life? Who knows, since he hasn't posted in the forum lately. His wife also has not logged any meters for a long time too. I think they're just being sneaky.

2whlrcr · Post by **2whlrcr** » January 31st, 2008, 10:16 pm

I'm done. For sale, one slightly used rower.

125shifter · Post by **125shifter** » February 1st, 2008, 7:58 am

I did 11kM after work. My wife and I went out to eat and to a movie and got home @ about 10:30. After getting the kids inbed, I realized that I was only ~6.4k from 200kM, so I went to my gym and pulled it off.

200371M for the month - not bad for a newbie.

125shifter · Post by **125shifter** » February 1st, 2008, 8:08 am

2whlrcr wrote:I'm not sure I'd consider a 1:30-2:00 minute test, a test of moto endurance?

If you're suggesting that a single 500M sprint isn't the way to condition for moto, I'd agree. However doing 10+ 50sec sprints w/ ~30-34 SM 1:30 breaks is/will be awesome. On the outside, that's 23.3 minutes of some heavy-hitting training.

When I say moto, I mean MX. I don't ride trails, woods, desert, etcetera - just motocross.

2whlrcr · Post by **2whlrcr** » February 1st, 2008, 9:51 am

125shifter wrote:
2whlrcr wrote:I'm not sure I'd consider a 1:30-2:00 minute test, a test of moto endurance?
If you're suggesting that a single 500M sprint isn't the way to condition for moto, I'd agree. However doing 10+ 50sec sprints w/ ~30-34 SM 1:30 breaks is/will be awesome. On the outside, that's 23.3 minutes of some heavy-hitting training.

When I say moto, I mean MX. I don't ride trails, woods, desert, etcetera - just motocross.

What I'm implying is a 500M PB score is not best indicator for motocross performance. A local MX moto is what, 7-10 minutes? A 500M is less than two minutes. I think the results of the standard 2000M would give a better indicator of someone's motocross fitness. That test takes somewhere around seven minutes, which more closely mimics the effort required in MX.

I'm guessing the moto guys have gravitated towards the 500M, because it's a quick test. You can show up to Loretta Lynn's or where ever and anyone can jump on and knock out a 500M. Big fat guys can put out impressive scores, just based on their sheer size and strength. The 2000M takes four times as long (see I'm good at math

), so doing mass testing would be more difficult. Plus a noob jumping on and trying to do a PB 2000M is probably going to do miserably, since they have no familiarity with the machine or pacing.

And I would futher continue this line of thought and say a HM or 10000M test would be a better indicator for HS or GNCC performance. Steve would make a good hare scramble racer, based on his HM time. All that said, a 500M test is certainly better than no test and does give you something to compare with.

And you are missing out on a lot of interesting riding and training, if you have never ventured off of a motorcross track. Try riding a trials bike for 30 minutes straight. It will help your skills and fitness. (Most people don't believe this, until they try it)

C3H6O3 · Post by **C3H6O3** » February 1st, 2008, 10:05 am

2whlrcr wrote:I think the results of the standard 2000M would give a better indicator of someone's motocross fitness.

I completely agree. I love the 2k because of the time specificity as well as the VO2max estimate - kills two birds with one stone.

125shifter · Post by **125shifter** » February 1st, 2008, 10:15 am

2whlrcr wrote:What I'm implying is a 500M PB score is not best indicator for motocross performance. A local MX moto is what, 7-10 minutes? A 500M is less than two minutes. I think the results of the standard 2000M would give a better indicator of someone's motocross fitness. That test takes somewhere around seven minutes, which more closely mimics the effort required in MX.

I'm guessing the moto guys have gravitated towards the 500M, because it's a quick test. You can show up to Loretta Lynn's or where ever and anyone can jump on and knock out a 500M. Big fat guys can put out impressive scores, just based on their sheer size and strength. The 2000M takes four times as long (see I'm good at math ), so doing mass testing would be more difficult. Plus a noob jumping on and trying to do a PB 2000M is probably going to do miserably, since they have no familiarity with the machine or pacing.

And I would futher continue this line of thought and say a HM or 10000M test would be a better indicator for HS or GNCC performance. Steve would make a good hare scramble racer, based on his HM time. All that said, a 500M test is certainly better than no test and does give you something to compare with.

You're missing what I said - that's ok. I did a 500M - fine... then I did an interval session that drove my initial statement re intervals. I view the 500M as a snap shot or sample, if you will, of personal progress. I did the 500M first (after a 2500M warm up) simply because I wanted the freshest body I could have. The interval that followed was done under some level of fatigue. I didn't/wouldn't want to test myself on a 500M after having done say a hard 5kM - you know what I mean.

Yeah... local motos are only a few minutes. A 1:30-2:00 500M won't do as much as intervals or longer, harder distances. We're saying the same thing my friend. I like riding 30 minute + practice motos, so any training that I do is typically based on that or more. Anything is better than nothing.

I'm going to enter this season in better condition than ever. I'm very interested to see how quickly I'll get winded at the start of the season and how quickly I'll come up to what I know is my limit in terms of exertion.

And you are missing out on a lot of interesting riding and training, if you have never ventured off of a motorcross track. Try riding a trials bike for 30 minutes straight. It will help your skills and fitness. (Most people don't believe this, until they try it)

I have (6) bikes in my shop now. (1) more and my wife will have me sleeping out there. Trials would be cool, but I'm not willing to go thru the learning curve i.e. getting jacked up from falling.

2whlrcr · Post by **2whlrcr** » February 1st, 2008, 10:49 am

125shifter wrote:
I have (6) bikes in my shop now. (1) more and my wife will have me sleeping out there. Trials would be cool, but I'm not willing to go thru the learning curve i.e. getting jacked up from falling.

Trials bikes are small, therefore easy to hide. She will never notice.