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How long have you been rowing?

Less than one month
5
11%
Less than six months
8
18%
About one year
2
4%
Two to five years
16
36%
Six to ten years
5
11%
More than ten years
9
20%
 
Total votes: 45

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Re: half marathon

Post by Big » January 18th, 2008, 6:05 pm

Calamity wrote:I just rowed my first half marathon...
Image Congrats! Great time! Be sure to add that one to the individual rankings.
Calamity wrote:Other than being more aware of my body in more places than at a 10,000 meter pieces, I notices that about 2/3 of the way through I felt kin of in a twilight zone with a faster stroke rate that i was trying for.
I think the "zone" you describe is a good thing, where the body clicks into a higher gear and the mind gets out of the way. I rarely row much over an hour (the length of a TV show or half of a ball game!) but when I have there are sometimes periods of unrestrained rowing that I let go until I feel a need to slow down. A similar thing happens in other sports under the right conditions.
Calamity wrote:Second, how do you all drink water and row at the same time if you do). I skipped a couple of strokes every 2000 meters to drink water, but there must be a way to this without stopping. Camel back? Love slave pouring water into my mouth for me?
That last one sounds good! :wink: I often row with one hand to drink, wipe sweat off, change TV channels, scratch my nose, and to shake out any numbness in the other hand. To do that I slow down a bit and grip the middle of the bar through the holes. It just comes with practice and seems necessary to me.

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Post by bg » January 19th, 2008, 12:44 am

not sure it was the smartest thing to do but since i have my long run tomorrow...soon to be today...i decided to do a slow row...well i got to the y early and rowed slowly for two hours..need to look at the old posts about gloves and tushy pads...go luna-tics...barbara

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Post by PJM » January 19th, 2008, 11:34 am

HI LUNATICS!!!
I wanted to address the glove/seat pad issue.Just my own experience :)
I got a seat pad free from Concept2.I bought one a few years ago..probably for my first challenge.It was a life saver.Concept2 sent me a replacement one this season.For my hands..gloves never seemed to do the job.I found a padded grip with a wrist band that offers support for the wrist and forearm for long rows.Called a NewGrip.My first challenge 3 years ago I rowed over a million meters in a single month.I thought I would never row again.My hands were in bad shape.I have looked and experimented with various products over the years and the NewGrips have been great.I can row and have no hand or wrist issues any longer.I have small wrists and forearms..so I wanted to share that with anyone who may need some help.
Great job guys and gals....GO LUNATICS!!!

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A Glove Option

Post by robert.hess » January 19th, 2008, 1:02 pm

I found that paddling gloves work well for rowing. They are like cycling / weight-lifting gloves, but have a very thin pad on the palm. I bought a pair from NRS years ago and still use them for almost every row. I'll still get calluses, but I have not had any serious blisters in years. I like gloves also because they tend to soak up sweat and give me a better drip on the handle.

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I'm impressed with that effort Barbara!

Post by DuluthMoose » January 19th, 2008, 3:48 pm

bg wrote:not sure it was the smartest thing to do but since i have my long run tomorrow...soon to be today...i decided to do a slow row...well i got to the y early and rowed slowly for two hours..need to look at the old posts about gloves and tushy pads...go luna-tics...barbara

Two hours on the rower and less than a day from a long run... An above and beyond effort! Hope you "carbed" up after the row yesterday and the run goes well for you.

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muscles of iron?

Post by just27 » January 19th, 2008, 6:45 pm

Great tips and ideas; great encouragement and great team spirit!

Reality check, please ... I've been rowing since September, averaging 6.5K a day and haven't lost the first stinkin' pound yet. Obviously, I must now have muscles of iron, and incredibly dense bones ... I don't think that I'm eating more. (At least I didn't GAIN weight over the holidays!) Maybe I just need to get a bit closer to the moon. :)

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Post by kalmjorg » January 19th, 2008, 6:47 pm

I know this may sound stupid but I've only been doing this since 9/07. What on earth is erg? I am just curious as everyone else seems to know what you all are referring to.
LJ

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Re: muscles of iron?

Post by kalmjorg » January 19th, 2008, 6:50 pm

just27 wrote:Great tips and ideas; great encouragement and great team spirit!

Reality check, please ... I've been rowing since September, averaging 6.5K a day and haven't lost the first stinkin' pound yet. Obviously, I must now have muscles of iron, and incredibly dense bones ... I don't think that I'm eating more. (At least I didn't GAIN weight over the holidays!) Maybe I just need to get a bit closer to the moon. :)
I myself have been rowing since Sept. and have lost exactly 9 pounds. My doctor is very happy though because I have lost 6 total points from my BMI which he was the most concerned about. I am not eating more either. I am over 40 though and I have heard it is a lot harder to lose weight once you get to that point.
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Post by bg » January 19th, 2008, 6:56 pm

thanks duluthmoose..didn't carb up last night but now i'm eating alot...needless to say my legs were tired but i did my run and it had some hills...bg

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Re: muscles of iron?

Post by PJM » January 19th, 2008, 7:06 pm

just27 wrote:Great tips and ideas; great encouragement and great team spirit!

Reality check, please ... I've been rowing since September, averaging 6.5K a day and haven't lost the first stinkin' pound yet. Obviously, I must now have muscles of iron, and incredibly dense bones ... I don't think that I'm eating more. (At least I didn't GAIN weight over the holidays!) Maybe I just need to get a bit closer to the moon. :)

The fact that you didn't gain..awesome.Kick your workouts up a notch if you haven't seen any results since September doing the routine you mention.Revv the metabolism..do some sprints to get your heart rate into the right zone..you can sprint on the erg( rower).Add time to your rows..mix it up.I am a personal trainer and love this subject..I had to jump in here.Hope you don't mind.Great job LUNATICS!!!The moon is sure getting closer!!!


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Post by NMB4010 » January 19th, 2008, 9:19 pm

PJM from TEAM TIMBUK2, you have great spirit so you're welcome as far as I'm concerned!! I agree with your recommendations regarding mixing it up and lengthening the rows. I really kicked up my rowing for the Holiday challenge and targeted 7500 meters a day to reach the 200k (with days off in there). I maintained my weight over the holidays and I found I built up enough strength to let me row longer. Today was an all-time record... I rowed 8k this morning and just finished another 10k. I, too, am on board to train to do an April marathon!

I'm 41 and it is TOUGH to lose weight. My mantra is "GET FIERCE" and I'm taking on the challenge big time. My goal is to drop ~30lbs and several percentage points of fat. The key for me is to track every, single calorie I eat. Otherwise, I "think" I'm doing okay, but I'm really not. I use www.myfooddiary.com and it keeps me honest. Believe me, I wish I had my high school metabolism back!

Contrats to Tom, our retired donut cop, for his successful weight-loss journey! Tom, you're inspiring me to keep at it and persevere. :)

Cheers all and keep rowin' strong!
Noelle

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Post by Toothdoc » January 19th, 2008, 9:35 pm

kalmjorg wrote:I know this may sound stupid but I've only been doing this since 9/07. What on earth is erg? I am just curious as everyone else seems to know what you all are referring to.
Exercise machine, equipped with an apparatus for measuring the work performed by exercising
Indoor rower, called an ergometer by rowers
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FYI:
An erg is the unit of energy and mechanical work in the centimetre-gram-second (CGS) system of units, symbol "erg". Its name is derived from the Greek word meaning "work".
The erg is a small unit, equal to a force of one dyne exerted for a distance of one centimeter. In the CGS base units, it is equal to one gram centimeter-squared per second squared (g·cm²/s²). It is thus equal to 1 × 10−7 joules or 0.1 microjoule (µJ) in SI units.
1 erg = 10−7 joule
1 joule = 107 erg
1 dyn cm = 1 erg.
From Greek ergon work [OED]

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Post by PJM » January 19th, 2008, 9:38 pm

8 Million meters!!!
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Re: muscles of iron?

Post by Toothdoc » January 19th, 2008, 9:40 pm

just27 wrote:Great tips and ideas; great encouragement and great team spirit!

Reality check, please ... I've been rowing since September, averaging 6.5K a day and haven't lost the first stinkin' pound yet. Obviously, I must now have muscles of iron, and incredibly dense bones ... I don't think that I'm eating more. (At least I didn't GAIN weight over the holidays!) Maybe I just need to get a bit closer to the moon. :)
I rowed 368,000meters for the Holiday Challenge and lost no weight either, like you I didn't gain any either. I was keeping my HR around 100-110. For the Jan challenge I bumped up the heart to 120-125 and have lost 7 lbs. this month. I am 63.

DC

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Post by Kristine Strasburger » January 19th, 2008, 11:31 pm

The weight gain thing is a tough one to evaluate when you are the only one seeing yourself. I have noticed several key things regarding weight loss or gain or staying the same.

First off, the WAY you row can usually be improved by education and evaluation. See a few posts back where I posted a link to the training calculator. There is some very good info there about becoming more efficient in your rowing. Efficiency comes together when you are able to row farther per stroke, and keep your heart rate under control to be able to row for a longer time.

In both rowing and running I have noticed that I do not usually see much change on the scale, but the more distance I do at any given time at an aerobic heart rate, the more I visually see the fat melting away. If you have more fat to melt away then you won't see as drastic a change, but if you keep at it you will eventually start to see the results in the mirror.

The scale might not change much because muscle is heavier than fat. Rowing aggressively will develop great muscle strength and definition, as well as increase muscle size, but not in an unattractive way. By rowing correctly, efficiently and aggressively you will be cultivating an incredible 8-pack (that's right, not 6 but 8.) You might not see it until you get the abdominal subcutaneous fat melted off, but after a couple of years of rowing well I bet you will be amazed at what you see.

I think that you will begin to see more visual changes as you are able to row around 10,000 per day (in about 45 min. or so) Try setting your damper to between 3 and 5, and row with your stroke rate and pace according to the workout calculator recommendations. This will assure that you are exerting the right amount of effort to see the results you are after. Your heart rate must be bumped up to see the results you are after, like toothdoc said. Just don't try to keep your heart rate too high, or you are getting into the anaerobic zone, and not achieving the weight loss you are wanting- in that case you are working on cardiac stress conditioning- another good area to work on AFTER achieving the weight loss and building up good cardiac fitness as a base.

Again, the scale might not show any changes for awhile as your body changes composition, so don't let that discourage you. Like I said in that previous post, the training calculator and the info I learned from that area really revolutionized my rowing, and made it much more profitable for the time spent on it.

Great idea on the Newgrip gloves...do you have a web link for them?

The team is now over the 8 million meter mark. I say we push hard in these last 12 days to hit the double digit millions. I think we can do it, no problem! Go LUNA-TICS! B)
☆~Kristine~☆

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