2000 meter race vs. 1000 meter race

From the CRASH-B's to an online challenge, discuss the competitive side of erging here.

Does racing 1000 meters have more of an interest for you than racing 2000 meters?

Poll ended at February 7th, 2008, 5:58 am

Yes.
8
20%
No.
30
73%
I still won't race either.
3
7%
 
Total votes: 41

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2000 meter race vs. 1000 meter race

Post by Thomas » January 8th, 2008, 5:58 am

Does racing 1000 meters have more of an interest for you than racing 2000 meters?

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Post by Thomas » January 8th, 2008, 4:51 pm

As of 12:16 PM PST (2016 GMT), there are 2 votes Yes and 6 votes No.

When I saw the 1k races, I thought it was awesome. I immediately saw a workable and realistic training routine directed more toward power than the amount of endurance necessary for a 2k. I have been cutting corners in my 2k training routine. When I am faced with a training session that could last as long as an hour and I am just worn down from a day of work, I cut the session as much as a 1/3. Some examples are 15 x 3' with 1' rest is cut to 10 x 3' with 1' rest, a 12k becomes an 8k, a 40-minute Level-4 session is cut to 30-minutes, and sometimes the session is cut altogether because I may have convinced myself that it would be better to do the session tomorrow, which may also be interrupted.

The PIRC has probably the highest showing of master rowers in California. Looking at other race venues in the past that had included 1k races, there appeared to be not much competition.

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Post by Thomas » January 10th, 2008, 3:59 am

As of 11:58 pm (0758 GMT), there are 4 votes Yes and 8 votes No.

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Post by Thomas » January 11th, 2008, 3:13 am

As of 11:12 pm (0712 GMT), there are 6 votes Yes and 10 votes No.

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Post by Stefan » January 12th, 2008, 2:21 pm

Four years ago when I was pretty decent on the erg, I participated in the Swedish open. That year they had decided that 2k was too hard for old people so my distance was 1k instead. I won but was really disappointed that I did not get an opportunity to try for a 2k PB in a competitive setting.
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Post by Yankeerunner » January 12th, 2008, 2:57 pm

I clicked 'No' because of the way the question was worded. I wouldn't want to see them replace existing 2km races. I would, however, be interested to compete in some 1km races in addition to the meager chances that we have to do 2km races.

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Post by joe80 » January 12th, 2008, 7:14 pm

The Scottish IRC has decided to hold 1k races for all older age categories (40+ I think) this year. They have also offered free entry into the Open events for those who still have sufficient energy left after completing their kilometre.

Remains to be seen what effect this will have on their entries.

I'm a distance person. The 5/10k would be a much better competitive event for me.

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Post by Joanvb » January 14th, 2008, 2:39 am

I voted no....I prefer training for a longer race rather than a shorter one. I agree with Yankeerunner, I would be interested to compete in some 1K races, but I wouldn't want the 1K to replace the 2K as the standard erg race distance.
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Post by Jef » January 14th, 2008, 2:47 am

2K all the way... I'd hate to have the pain only last under three and a half minutes after months of training and miles of traveling to compete. :)
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Post by RR » January 14th, 2008, 4:59 am

1k races are the order of the day for age groupers in Edinburgh on 9 Feb 2008 for the Scottish Champs
About 4 years ago when I organised the Scottish Champs I put on 2k races in the morning and 1k races in the afternoon.
I suppose that mentally 1k races are "easier" as you know that you'll finish in 2k anything canhappen if you get it wrong!
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Post by kirbyt » January 14th, 2008, 11:49 pm

I voted no. I'd like to see 10k races. That was my favourite distance when I used to run. I'm not sure that the shorter (and therefore faster )races are good for us old people anyway.

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2K vs 1K

Post by Croppers » January 17th, 2008, 6:54 am

I like rowing a 1K, but I find it easier relative to the distance than a 2K.
After an all out 1K I can stand up and walk away, but after an all out 2K, I can barely stand.

1K also seems to be the maximum distance where you find non-rowers still performing OK (even though they may have shocking technique) whereas 2K seems to filter out the power lifters and muscle bound people from the aerobically fit rowers (not that I mean to offend anyone).

So for purity and real fitness, 2K seems to have be created by the devil himself as a test of fitness, while 1K just doesn't quite push you to the limit.
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Post by calonius » January 17th, 2008, 4:28 pm

I vote for 1k just for personal reasons and ability. I consider 2k still as The distance. In addition to 2k shorter distances should be more in the picture in all big events as well. That is the way how you get more people involved in this sport. A good example is 250m c2ctc challenge this month , 450 participants in two weeks time, probably 700 by the end of the month. Many of those will continue during months to come on longer distances. If you really enjoy something you travel like me from Helsinki to Auckland, the longest way you can pass on this globe, in order to race 100m an 300m :D
Btw there is a major 1k race this weekend in Estonia Tallinn just 40 miles accross the sea from Helsinki where I live. Welcome :!:
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Post by rowmyboat » January 17th, 2008, 4:38 pm

I've found the 1k an enjoyable competition distance, but possibly it only appeals to those who favour the shorter distances.

In NZ all events include at least 3 and up to 5 different distances (100m / 300m / 500m / 1k / 2k ... and the 1k is always included and probably the most popular. If the 5 distances are held then the competition is over 2 days, but 3 or 4 distances can be held on the one day. On top of those mentioned pairs or relay events are often included.

The only event the 2k is not part of the programme is when the Short Course Champs are held.

It is noticeable now though that the 2k is the distance not only some of the older folk are not entering but a few of the younger ones leave it out too - depending on their fitness at the time I guess.

ALL distances require different training to some extent IMO and it's only a matter of applying the necessary build-up relevant to that piece.

I would suggest Croppers that after your comment on the 1k you have lots of room for improvement with that distance in that case .......?? :)
RR - mentally it is easier but physically if you've put everything into it you should just about feel the same as after a top 2k.

I do have to add though that I still find the 2k the biggest challenge and therefore would never (well, not for a few years yet) drop it out of my programme as it would seem like 'handling down' and I'd always wonder what I could have achieved.

I always like the 2k to be the first event and there's usually enough recovery time for the other distances, but you never know until the day and if they start with the shorter distances it does make the 2k a tougher challenge, but..... it's the same for everyone.

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Post by TomR » January 18th, 2008, 3:05 pm

I voted "no" to both.

I'm getting to the point where I find it increasingly difficult to convince myself that the Deity wants me to experience the discomfort of a hard race. And even if the Deity thinks I need the lesson, I'm not sure I can agree.

Having said that, I might travel to row a 2k. I doubt I could convince myself to drive 4 hours to race for less than 4 minutes.

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