Serious Weight Loss Goals?

[old] copywriter · Post by **[old] copywriter** » May 19th, 2005, 6:29 pm

Just done a 60 minute row, so I'll join the team and get that added in. Anyone else suffer butt pain on long sessions?

[old] Godfried · Post by **[old] Godfried** » May 20th, 2005, 6:28 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'>QUOTE(copywriter @ May 20 2005, 12:29 AM)</div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Anyone else suffer butt pain on long sessions? </td></tr></table> Yes, see <a href='http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=1977' target='_blank'>Rowing - A Pain In The Butt</a> or <a href='http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=1561' target='_blank'>Hip Pain</a> or <a href='http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=1527' target='_blank'>Numb Bottom</a> or <a href='http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=1152' target='_blank'> Posture And Back Aches</a> or <a href='http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=969' target='_blank'> Pain In The Feet</a> or <a href='http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=735' target='_blank'>Seat Pain</a> or <a href='http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=720' target='_blank'>Skwoosh Row Pad</a> or <a href='http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=714' target='_blank'>Seat Pad Advice</a> or <a href='http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=465' target='_blank'>Health And Fitness</a> or <a href='http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=319' target='_blank'>G. Maximus Pain In The ***t</a> or <a href='http://concept2.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=183' target='_blank'>Pain And Discomfort In Rear End</a> or do a search on the top of the page.

[old] NurseBobbi · Post by **[old] NurseBobbi** » May 20th, 2005, 3:27 pm

Hi, Everyone, I second Andrea's caution about using pills. I'd also like to mention that watching your weight is not the only way to track your progress. I've started weight training, too, so I'm building muscle and losing fat. I've ordered some calipers so I can follow my body fat percentage. Even though I've been plateaued on my weight for a few weeks (I'm on prednisone, so I'm just glad I haven't gained any!) I know that I'm still getting fitter. My jeans feel looser and I can see a difference just looking in the mirror. Yesterday evening, I took one of my dogs for a walk around a block I hadn't covered in quite a long time. It has a steep hill about 3/4 of the way around, and I always used to get winded on it. I didn't yesterday! I plan to monitor my progress weekly and record the results. (I'll start when I come off prednisone next week.) I'm going to track my weight, but I'm also going to record (or let Excel calculate) my BMI (body mass index), my body fat percentage, my blood pressure, and my chest, waist, hip, upper arm, thigh, and calf measurements. Even if the weight isn't changing much at some point, I should see lost inches and a decrease in body fat. Copywriter asked about butt pain. I haven't rowed longer than 30 minutes at a stretch yet, but will be increasing my time, so I'll let you know. I recently bought a seat pad for my rower and it does make it more comfortable, but I didn't have any serious discomfort. My seat is a little wobbly, so I just ordered replacement rollers and hardware for it. I think it will be even more comfortable once it's more stable. Anyway, time will tell. I hope to row 5000 meters tomorrow, which will be my longest row so far.

[old] jimjayhawk · Post by **[old] jimjayhawk** » May 20th, 2005, 11:32 pm

Okay, I'm in... the team I was on only had 1 other member and he wasn't doing much... do I threw my meters in the the Row Pain Row Gain... and I added 6000 m tonight.... I haven't rowed for about 10 days... I was having the most excruciating cramps in the back of my thighs... I can feel the tightness again tonight... it is probably time that I give up my stubborn youthful ways and start to do some stretching... although I rarely did much even as a wrestler in h.s. and college... this 44 year old carcass isn't bouncing back like it once did. Keep up the rowing team! We were in 46th place.... if everyone works out 2-3 times a week we can move up the list and down the scale!!!!! Jim

[old] copywriter · Post by **[old] copywriter** » May 21st, 2005, 2:58 am

>I'm going to track my weight, but I'm also going to record (or let Excel calculate) my BMI (body mass index), my body fat percentage, my blood pressure, and my chest, waist, hip, upper arm, thigh, and calf measurements.< Nursebobbi - you might want to add your resting heart rate to that list. It's a good indicator of cardiovascular fitness and worth tracking. Take it when you wake in the morning, before you get out of bed. Since starting rowing seriously in April, mine's dropped from 65 to 58 which is as encouraging as the small decrease the scales record in the amount of useless cargo I'm carrying around. Keep going everybody! Copywriter (Ken)

[old] copywriter · Post by **[old] copywriter** » May 21st, 2005, 3:01 am

jimjayhawk, Hi - what is your weight loss target? Copywriter (Ken)

[old] NurseBobbi · Post by **[old] NurseBobbi** » May 21st, 2005, 7:26 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'>QUOTE(copywriter @ May 21 2005, 02:58 AM)</div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Nursebobbi - you might want to add your resting heart rate to that list. It's a good indicator of cardiovascular fitness and worth tracking. Take it when you wake in the morning, before you get out of bed.[right] </td></tr></table> Good idea, Ken! Thanks for the suggestion. My resting heart rate is hideously high--probably in the upper 70's.

[old] Lisa · Post by **[old] Lisa** » May 21st, 2005, 9:20 am

I'm a little frustrated because I'm not losing weight rowing. I'm watching what I'm eating and logging 8000-8500 meters at least 4 times a week. I haven't lost inches either. The only difference I can see is my backside is getting firm. But I'd really like to get my weight down. I have read and read websites looking for solutions. I even got a heart rate monitor to make sure I'm staying in a weight loss range. But nothing is working. It's discouraging. I know I'm healthier for the exercise, but I wonder how long I'll keep it up without results. Lisa

[old] NurseBobbi · Post by **[old] NurseBobbi** » May 21st, 2005, 10:21 am

Hi, Lisa, How long are you rowing? For weight loss, C2 recommends rowing 5-6 times per week, and duration is more important than distance. Exercising longer at moderate intensity is said to burn fat better than shorter duration exercise of higher intensity. Also, are you doing any strength training? A combination of weight training and cardiovascular training is more effective than just cv training in helping you to lose body fat, weight, and inches. Good luck! <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'>QUOTE(Lisa @ May 21 2005, 09:20 AM)</div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I'm a little frustrated because I'm not losing weight rowing. I'm watching what I'm eating and logging 8000-8500 meters at least 4 times a week. I haven't lost inches either. The only difference I can see is my backside is getting firm. But I'd really like to get my weight down. I have read and read websites looking for solutions. I even got a heart rate monitor to make sure I'm staying in a weight loss range. But nothing is working. It's discouraging. I know I'm healthier for the exercise, but I wonder how long I'll keep it up without results. Lisa </td></tr></table>

[old] Lisa · Post by **[old] Lisa** » May 21st, 2005, 10:51 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'>QUOTE(NurseBobbi @ May 21 2005, 08:21 AM)</div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Hi, Lisa, How long are you rowing? For weight loss, C2 recommends rowing 5-6 times per week, and duration is more important than distance. Exercising longer at moderate intensity is said to burn fat better than shorter duration exercise of higher intensity. Also, are you doing any strength training? A combination of weight training and cardiovascular training is more effective than just cv training in helping you to lose body fat, weight, and inches. </td></tr></table> Those are good suggestions Bobbi. I'm currently working to go at a lower pace (that's why I got the heart monitor) and increase my time. Right now I can do only about 40 minutes a day because after that my knees hurt. I'm hoping that improves with time. I want to row every day but I think I really need to ease off it and spend more time on the treadmill which doesn't hurt my knees. I have not been very good about the strength training - I just don't like it much. But maybe that would help. Lisa

[old] John 'SugarBoy' Foy · Post by **[old] John 'SugarBoy' Foy** » May 21st, 2005, 4:54 pm

Consistency is the key

[old] copywriter · Post by **[old] copywriter** » May 21st, 2005, 7:00 pm

Lisa wrote - "I'm a little frustrated because I'm not losing weight rowing. I'm watching what I'm eating and logging 8000-8500 meters at least 4 times a week" Lisa, There's an immutable law on losing weight: Input exceeds output = weight gain Output exceeds input = weight loss Put another way: Calories in exceeds calories out, weight gain Calories out exceeds calories in, weight loss Unfortunately, your body screws around with that law if input is reduced too far - if you don't eat enough. Your body thinks "Heavens to Betsey, I'm starving, better conserve all the energy stores I can". Even more unfortunately, the most efficient energy store is fat, so it hangs on to fat at the expense of muscle. Two tips that work for me: • Don't deprive yourself of too many calories. A deficit of two or three hundred calories a day doesn't seem to trigger the starvation response for me. This means though, that you have to accept that weight is going to come off very slowly. But then again, that's the way it went on. •I've always been a 'big eater' and I like to feel my belly is full. I've learnt (and it's taken years to reach this conclusion!) that foods with high water content make me feel full, even though their calorie content isn't high. Fruit - especially melon, pineapple, kiwi, citrus, and vegetables like aubergine (egg plant), tomatoes, leeks, artichokes, asparagus, courgettes (zuchini), broccoli, squash, etc satisfy my craving to eat heartily, but don't bog me down with loads of calories (or fat). Something else to think about - accepted wisdom for weight loss through exercise is long-and-slow. That's true, if you can go long enough, but I reckon long-and-slow needs hours a day - something like a long bike ride, or a long weekend walk. For days when you can't do that, I think shorter-and-harder is better. If you've only got 30 minutes or an hour, make them harder minutes. There's an extra benefit for me in that strategy - the more I force my metabolic rate up in exercise, the longer it takes to subside after I stop the exercise, so I get some 'free' calorie burn post-exercise. Hope all this makes sense and isn't teaching you to suck eggs. PS - if you really want to lose weight quickly, schedule a week's walking holiday in hill country, eating only what you can carry in your backpack, or harvest from the counrty you're moving through. Long slow exercise for hours and hours and mild undernourishment. You'll come back looking like a racing snake!

[old] Lisa · Post by **[old] Lisa** » May 21st, 2005, 10:27 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'>QUOTE(copywriter @ May 21 2005, 05:00 PM)</div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>You'll come back looking like a racing snake! </td></tr></table> That is precisely the look I'm going for! Thanks for the tips. I think you're right about the hours of exercise. I'm working up to an hour a day and mean to get to 1.5 hours as my body can tolerate it. Maybe I should add in some hiking on the weekend. Lisa

[old] Stevo · Post by **[old] Stevo** » May 22nd, 2005, 5:00 am

I've got three golden rules for weight loss (all revolve around food, as I already exercise enough). 1. No junkfood but Subway 6 under 6 subs. 2. Reduce portions (I used to eat till I felt physically full - sometimes uncomfotable - and yet comfortable? wierd....). 3. Consciously realise the difference between eating for fuel, and eating when bored or for comfort and act on it. I've lost 6 kg in 6weeks... Steve

[old] maf · Post by **[old] maf** » May 22nd, 2005, 6:09 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'>QUOTE(jimjayhawk @ May 21 2005, 01:02 PM)</div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>it is probably time that I give up my stubborn youthful ways and start to do some stretching... </td></tr></table> Hi, these stretches are pretty good: <a href='http://row2k.com/physio/overvie1.html' target='_blank'>http://row2k.com/physio/overvie1.html</a> Michael

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