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General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
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Post by bholland8 » May 1st, 2007, 9:45 pm

Thanks Bryan! :D Honestly... I'm not a big fan of distance ANYTHING... I'm a sprinter at heart. :lol: I tried the 10K once and decided I wouldn't do it again for a while, but then I got so close to 100,000m that I just couldn't pass up getting it in before the start of the new season. Who needs outside competition when you've got a competitive streak like I do! :lol:

You're on my team, aren't you? (Prairieland Strokers) I noticed because you're 32 (I'll be 32 on Saturday) and you have the same last name as some good friends of ours.

Here's to another great rowing season!

Brittany

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Post by Gerhard » May 2nd, 2007, 5:03 am

My first half marathon in 1.43.27 (= 2.27 / 500m)

500M averages per 4200m

2.29,
2.28 ,
2.25,
2.23,
2.19

Plus a 2.30 minute break after an hour to change shirts, relieve my but and have a drink. For some reason I cannot drink while rowing. How do other people do that?
1969; 183cm; 90kg; Rowing PB’s 2008; 500-1:32 1000-3:19 2000-7:14 5000-19:23 10000-40:29 HM-1:28:46. Recent SB’s not worth mentioning yet :-)

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Post by Nosmo » May 2nd, 2007, 12:58 pm

Gerhard wrote: For some reason I cannot drink while rowing. How do other people do that?
I'm thinking about doing a marathon and I've been trying to figure that out. My plan is to get a camel back, put it on something about head level, and every so often reach over and grab the tube. Drink while I take a couple of easy strokes.

I normally erg first think in the morning after drinking a couple of cups of green or white tea. This has worked fine for half marathons. I did two 30K's this way, but that is about the limit of what I can handle without food or water. Last week, I did another two thirty K's. Before the rows I ate a cliff bar. During the rows I put a bottle of water on the ground and after 10K started drinking a few sips every 2.5K. I miss a couple of strokes and it seems to cost me about 10 seconds per drink. For the six drinks (~16oz) for the last 30K I did I figure I lost about a minute or about 1 second off the pace. I think the camel back method will cost me much less. Did the 30K's at a 2:02.1 and 2:02.5.

For calories, I haven't decided whether to use a dilute sports drink, something like GU, or eat Cliff bars. If I go the cliff bar route I will break them up in small pieces before hand and pop one piece in my mouth every 3K or so starting at 10K and stopping at about 35K. With the water I will probably take my last drink with 7K or 5K to go.

Yesterday I started a 35K. I was experimenting with drink more per water break but taking less breaks. I stopped after 15K because my wife who had gone swimming came back because the pool was closed. She wanted to go for a tandem ride. So we took the tandem out for almost an hour. Just 12 miles but 1500' of climbing, 13 mph average, 48 mph max.

Want to do a couple of 35K's before I do the full marathon. I plan on doing it with no breaks at a 2:02 pace. If it goes OK I may try to do it a bit faster in the following weeks.

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Post by hjs » May 2nd, 2007, 1:30 pm

If you hold the handle with 1 hand , in the middle, you can row with one hand. I loose about 40 seconds in pace doing this. But I can drink this way and loose 3/4 seconds every drink. Not that much.

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Post by yehster » May 2nd, 2007, 5:41 pm

Gerhard wrote: For some reason I cannot drink while rowing. How do other people do that?
My rationale was that giving up a couple minutes taking quick breaks to drink was a better option than risking not finishing because of dehydration.
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Nosmo wrote: I'm thinking about doing a marathon and I've been trying to figure that out. My plan is to get a camel back, put it on something about head level, and every so often reach over and grab the tube. Drink while I take a couple of easy strokes.
Intriguing idea. An issue you may have is that the camelbak hose may not be long enough to cover your full stroke length. It would not be fun if you pulled the camelbak off of it's perch. One crazy idea that I might try myself, is rather than putting the camelbak on a shelf of some kind, suspending it by strings from the ceiling so you have more slack available.
My plan would be then to grab the hose on a recovery, grab a drink while taking a couple strokes, then just spit the hose out. If everything were measured properly, you wouldn't even have to worry about the bite valve touching the ground. If such a setup worked well enough, I might even use it for shorter pieces.

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Post by Gerhard » May 4th, 2007, 3:09 am

I got my 2k under 8 minutes!!

8.37.5 -> 7.57.9

Splits were 1.55 / 2.00 / 2.02 / 2.00, so I took off too fast and died a couple of times during the final 1200 meters. But I'm happy :)
1969; 183cm; 90kg; Rowing PB’s 2008; 500-1:32 1000-3:19 2000-7:14 5000-19:23 10000-40:29 HM-1:28:46. Recent SB’s not worth mentioning yet :-)

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Post by SwimmerTurnedRower » May 4th, 2007, 3:37 am

New personal best in the 500 after two 25 minute pieces and a 500 before.

1:29.8

Still can't figure out how to get a fast start. My slowest 100 is always my first.
6'4" / 193 cm, 205 lbs./ 93kg.

500- 1:22.2
2k- 6:16.9 (1:34.2)
6k- 20:52 (1:44.3)

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Post by Bob S. » May 4th, 2007, 1:04 pm

SwimmerTurnedRower wrote:New personal best in the 500 after two 25 minute pieces and a 500 before.

1:29.8

Still can't figure out how to get a fast start. My slowest 100 is always my first.
Have you tried the common OTW technique of starting with short strokes? a typical start is 1/2 slide, 3/4 slide, 3/4 slide, full slide hard, 6 more full slide hard drives, then settle. In a boat, the idea is to overcome the initial inertia of the stationary boat with extra hard strokes and then settle to normal race rate and pace when it is up to speed. To some extent the same principle applies to the stationary wheel of an indoor rowing machine. I don't see much point to it for long races, but for the 500m it might help. That set of 10 first strokes would just about take care of the first 100m.

Bob S.

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Post by ancho » May 4th, 2007, 1:41 pm

Gerhard wrote:I got my 2k under 8 minutes!!

8.37.5 -> 7.57.9

Splits were 1.55 / 2.00 / 2.02 / 2.00, so I took off too fast and died a couple of times during the final 1200 meters. But I'm happy :)
You've done quite a lot of rowing in your first month.
Huge improvement, well done!
Now go for 7:30 :twisted:
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Post by Hennie Martini » May 6th, 2007, 8:08 am

Gerhard wrote:I got my 2k under 8 minutes!!

8.37.5 -> 7.57.9

Splits were 1.55 / 2.00 / 2.02 / 2.00, so I took off too fast and died a couple of times during the final 1200 meters. But I'm happy :)
Congratulations! Well done B)

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Post by Gerhard » May 6th, 2007, 12:44 pm

Thank you all for keeping me motivated. Two more PB's over the last two days:

30m: 6580 -> 6870
10k: 46.30 -> 44.44

Maybe it's time to concetrate on technique, power and endurance, without the distraction of trying to beat PB's. It's fun though :)
1969; 183cm; 90kg; Rowing PB’s 2008; 500-1:32 1000-3:19 2000-7:14 5000-19:23 10000-40:29 HM-1:28:46. Recent SB’s not worth mentioning yet :-)

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Post by Gerhard » May 6th, 2007, 12:58 pm

ancho wrote:
Gerhard wrote:I got my 2k under 8 minutes!!

8.37.5 -> 7.57.9

Splits were 1.55 / 2.00 / 2.02 / 2.00, so I took off too fast and died a couple of times during the final 1200 meters. But I'm happy :)
You've done quite a lot of rowing in your first month.
Huge improvement, well done!
Now go for 7:30 :twisted:
I row about 5 times a week, averaging about 40k per week. Very happy with the progress and I certainly hope to beat 7.30 sometime this year. However, I realize that 7.57 and 7.30 are worlds apart!

I don't mind to suffer every now and then, but the last 1000 meters of my 2k were absolutely killing. The only thing that got me going was the little indicator value on the PM3 saying "keep up this pace and you'll break 8 minutes". Some say sport is healthy. My 2k wasn't :wink: .
1969; 183cm; 90kg; Rowing PB’s 2008; 500-1:32 1000-3:19 2000-7:14 5000-19:23 10000-40:29 HM-1:28:46. Recent SB’s not worth mentioning yet :-)

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Post by Jack S. » May 10th, 2007, 11:04 pm

My first post to this thread. This morning my PB 5K row is 20:36.3 breaking my old PB of 21:42.0 by more than a minute.

Perhaps 20 minute barrier will fall!

Jack

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Post by ancho » May 11th, 2007, 2:57 am

1:26,0 for the 500 m. (2,6 sec off my previous one from one year ago) B)
Boy, that hurt!
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Post by Jack S. » May 11th, 2007, 5:24 am

Ancho,

WOW! Congrats.

Jack

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