Fish Game

[[old] c2jonw]

Hi Paul, I'll ask Scott that question to confirm but I'm pretty sure there is not a fixed maximum score. There are a number of parameters such as minimum # of fish on the screen, % predator, % prey large and small, etc, so there is a degree of controlled randomness to what is going on. What this means that, much like playing solitaire, sometimes you get a good shuffle......JonW

[[old] c2jonw]

and I just got a good shuffle.......2535!!!

[[old] Sleepy_Floyd]

<!--QuoteBegin-c2jonw+Jan 19 2006, 03:36 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(c2jonw @ Jan 19 2006, 03:36 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->and I just got a good shuffle.......2535!!! <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />ok, be honest now.. could this game have been released around Thanksgiving, but you guys were too busy (read, "having too much fun") "testing" it out... or were you guys just trying to build up your high scores before letting us have a shot at it. LOL<br /><br />Thanks for putting this out for us. I was just telling my wife that I planned on starting rowing again next week.. but I think it will be tonight now..

[[old] c2jonw]

Darn it, caught in the act....Don't tell anyone, OK? Seriously, we've been tweaking the Fish Game for a couple of months, and admittedly I have as much time on the various prototypes as anyone. So it's probably just a matter of time before someone else figures out all the nuances and has a really good shuffle, and my reign as king of the fishermen will be over. But till then I'll walk with a little more swagger in my step, smug in my superiority over all. <br />Part of the problem(?) is the workout room is on the way to the mens room, and a 4-minute row is almost no time at all.......JonW

[[old] Sleepy_Floyd]

<!--QuoteBegin-c2jonw+Jan 19 2006, 10:12 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(c2jonw @ Jan 19 2006, 10:12 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Part of the problem(?) is the workout room is on the way to the mens room, and a 4-minute row is almost no time at all.......JonW <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Those are the best kinds of games.. think how many hours are spent playing Windows Solitaire because of "just one more quick game.." <br /><br />Anyway... I excitedly loaded the fishing game up last night and played it and its alot of fun... my 6 and 8 year old kids even liked it.. I need to get completely over whatever I had.. cause even the short 4 minute row made me lightheaded and had my heart racing... this will definitely motivate me to get back on again..<br /><br />As for the game.. I love the simplicity... controlling your fish depth via your pacing is challenging.. and avoiding getting gobbled up by those nasty sharp toothed buggers... Its challenging just picking your path around the big black fish.. as it is going after little fish.. ughh... man... gotta go home and try it again.. <br /><br />Good Job guys!!

[[old] c2jonw]

<!--QuoteBegin-Sleepy_Floyd+Jan 20 2006, 03:30 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Sleepy_Floyd @ Jan 20 2006, 03:30 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-c2jonw+Jan 19 2006, 10:12 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(c2jonw @ Jan 19 2006, 10:12 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Part of the problem(?) is the workout room is on the way to the mens room, and a 4-minute row is almost no time at all.......JonW <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Those are the best kinds of games.. think how many hours are spent playing Windows Solitaire because of "just one more quick game.." <br /><br />Anyway... I excitedly loaded the fishing game up last night and played it and its alot of fun... my 6 and 8 year old kids even liked it.. I need to get completely over whatever I had.. cause even the short 4 minute row made me lightheaded and had my heart racing... this will definitely motivate me to get back on again..<br /><br />As for the game.. I love the simplicity... controlling your fish depth via your pacing is challenging.. and avoiding getting gobbled up by those nasty sharp toothed buggers... Its challenging just picking your path around the big black fish.. as it is going after little fish.. ughh... man... gotta go home and try it again.. <br /><br />Good Job guys!! <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Floyd- Thanks much for the feedback, and a reminder to all this is a beta version and we are looking for comments......JonW<br />

[[old] LBusch]

It's a fun little game. The randomness helps with the replayability. However, the thought struck me that the pattern of the fish could be programmed to create a guide through a good interval workout. Stick to the program and you get a perfect score. Slow down or speed up at the wrong time and you loose points. Since the game adjusts to your pace the workout would adapt to every level of fitness/skill. (A little bit out of the initial design parameters, but....)<br /><br />I would suggest storing the score for each game on the logcard along with the other data as well as keeping track of the high score for that particular logcard/PM3.

[[old] Tite_Jess]

Hi!<br />I just downloaded the game... Wow!!! It's really funny! <br />I have one question: does it install the game on my logcard? I hope so, because I'd be able to play it at school (we have approximately 25 rowing machine!! )<br />Thank you for this game! <br />Jess

[[old] c2jonw]

<!--QuoteBegin-Tite_Jess+Jan 21 2006, 04:04 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Tite_Jess @ Jan 21 2006, 04:04 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi!<br />I just downloaded the game... Wow!!! It's really funny!  <br />I have one question: does it install the game on my logcard? I hope so, because I'd be able to play it at school (we have approximately 25 rowing machine!!  )<br />Thank you for this game! <br />Jess <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />TJ, You'll have to download the game onto each of the 25 ergs. Can't be done off the log card. The locard saves the Fish Game as a 4 minute workout with 4x1 minute splits. Pace, watts, meters rowed and calories are there, but the Game score is not. It's on the wish list....enjoy, JonW

[[old] Citroen]

<!--QuoteBegin-c2jonw+Jan 21 2006, 04:28 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(c2jonw @ Jan 21 2006, 04:28 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Tite_Jess+Jan 21 2006, 04:04 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Tite_Jess @ Jan 21 2006, 04:04 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi!<br />I just downloaded the game... Wow!!! It's really funny!  <br />I have one question: does it install the game on my logcard? I hope so, because I'd be able to play it at school (we have approximately 25 rowing machine!!  )<br />Thank you for this game! <br />Jess <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />TJ, You'll have to download the game onto each of the 25 ergs. Can't be done off the log card. The locard saves the Fish Game as a 4 minute workout with 4x1 minute splits. Pace, watts, meters rowed and calories are there, but the Game score is not. It's on the wish list....enjoy, JonW <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />It would be a great idea if we could load firmware onto a specially formatted logcard, then insert that in the erg to run the update - boot from logcard. (At the moment I have to take my laptop into the gym, find the USB cable and so on.)<br /><br />You could keep the folks with Apple Macs happy that way too. I offered to have a Mac user, I know, mail his PM3 to me so I could run the update for him.

[[old] c2scott]

Nice idea but the reality is Concept2's LogCards only store 32K of data, the PM3 is appraching 1M of code. I'm not sure that anyone makes a 1-2M smartcard, not to mention that you'd have to update your PM3 to get firmware that allowed future updates from a smartcard, and currently there are no plans to even consider this...<br /><br />The Mac updater is in the plans, but not written yet...<br /><br />- Scott<br />

[[old] Sleepy_Floyd]

i agree.. saving the score to the logcard would be a nice addition.. <br /><br />nice job on the skill level autocorrecting to your startup.. I didnt know about that til I read another post.<br /><br />what also might be nice is additional obstacles types.. with varying points being deducted.. maybe a large anchor drops sitting in the sand at the bottom.. or perhaps a fish hook dropping down from the surface... maybe a fishing net with just a small opening that you'd have to pass through.. or a human diver swimming towards you.. <br /><br />you could have other bonus's to shrink the size of your fish, or maybe make your fish invulnerable, so you wouldnt have to dodge the sharp tooth guys..<br /><br />I'm sure I could come up with other ideas, those are just off the top of my head. <br /><br />SF<br /><br />

[[old] grams]

Question Does everyone always get eaten over and over whe they stay at the surface? I sure do. Lurking on the bottom is my option, but its a bit weird-I don't usually literally stop rowing several times in a session. So much for smooth consecutive strokes.<br /><br />Perhaps you can do an age-related ranking system for the scoring? Poor old grams couldn't get past 1005 today. Lowest score was 505. <br /><br />grams

[[old] c2scott]

<!--QuoteBegin-grams+Jan 23 2006, 07:09 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(grams @ Jan 23 2006, 07:09 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Question Does everyone always get eaten over and over whe they stay at the surface? I sure do. Lurking on the bottom is my option, but its a bit weird-I don't usually literally stop rowing several times in a session. So much for smooth consecutive strokes.<br /><br />Perhaps you can do an age-related ranking system for the scoring? Poor old grams couldn't get past 1005 today. Lowest score was 505. <br /><br />grams <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Grams: When you say "Stay at the surface" are you talking about at the top of the screen? That is pretty hard as you will have to row harder and harder and harder to stay there. <br /><br />I don't think there is a need for any age-related ranking -- my kids can play pretty well, and they're little. It does adapt to your rowing pretty well.<br /><br />As an aside, there is NO need to stop rowing entirely. Just take light strokes to drop yourself down. <br /><br />

[[old] grams]

I think you answered my question-variability is the key-not speed. I'm curious-what score ranges do your kids generate? <br /><br />I can see that the game is fun for kids-they aren't interesetd in long workouts at a constant rate-the numbers don't matter to them. <br /><br />Is this a secret plan to get families to buy more ergs? LOL<br /><br />grams