What do you use for operating system?

haboustak · Post by **haboustak** » September 16th, 2006, 4:12 pm

If you're just starting with Linux, I wouldn't recommend Debian as your first attempt. While Debian is a great and classic distribution, it's also, in my opinion, one of the most difficult to get running. The primary reason for this is Debian's influence from Richard Stallman and their desire to maintain an absolutely open source kernel. They make it more difficult to integrate closed-source drivers (e.g. those from NVidia). Odds are Debian won't boot because of video driver problems.

For first timers I'd highly recommend trying SuSE or maybe Fedora first. Also -- Ubuntu is a Debian offshoot that's supposed to be good for desktop Linux as well.

By far the easiet way to try Linux is to use what's called a Live CD like Knoppix. Just burn the CD and boot to it.

To burn an ISO you need a program that can burn a CD image, like Roxio EZCD Creator or Nero Burning ROM. Nero should have a 30 day trial you can download for free. Although it's becoming bloatware and is an absurdly large download now. (Using Nero: Recorder > Burn Image)

Mike

Citroen · Post by **Citroen** » September 16th, 2006, 5:59 pm

Tyn wrote:Pingpong wrote:
Mac at home. Windows at work.

I'm surprised that the poll is about 50:50 because I thought it was more like 95:5.
My thoughts exactly!

But reading the fora I noticed that there are lots of Q: about the mac, and mac-pm problems!

This is a good signal to the Guys at C2!

C2!!! Do you have your ears on?

C2 have been listening.

The code is already out there.

The V4.04 LogCard Utility, PM3 V97 (or PM4 V14) firmware and Mac OS 10.3 are compatible. The new LogCard util (well the windoze version, I don't have a Mac) includes an automatic firmware updater.

johnlvs2run · Post by **johnlvs2run** » September 16th, 2006, 6:52 pm

haboustak wrote:For first timers I'd highly recommend trying SuSE or maybe Fedora first. Also -- Ubuntu is a Debian offshoot that's supposed to be good for desktop Linux as well.

Thanks much.

I'm going to aim for getting Fedora and Ubuntu. Will take a look at Suse too.

I downloaded Nero last night and it was quite cumbersome, kept popping up everywhere without me wanting it to do that, so deleted it. A link on Ubuntu says CDBurnerXP Pro works so I've downloaded this to try next.

Tyn · Post by **Tyn** » September 17th, 2006, 5:03 am

Citroen wrote:
Tyn wrote:Pingpong wrote:
Mac at home. Windows at work.

I'm surprised that the poll is about 50:50 because I thought it was more like 95:5.
My thoughts exactly!

But reading the fora I noticed that there are lots of Q: about the mac, and mac-pm problems!

This is a good signal to the Guys at C2!

C2!!! Do you have your ears on?
C2 have been listening.

The code is already out there.

The V4.04 LogCard Utility, PM3 V97 (or PM4 V14) firmware and Mac OS 10.3 are compatible. The new LogCard util (well the windoze version, I don't have a Mac) includes an automatic firmware updater.

OOps!

This is news for me and I like it!

PM3 Firmware Mac User Info

Upgrading to Version 97 Firmware requires the use of a PC. If you are a Mac user and want to upgrade to Version 97, you will need to connect your PM3 to a PC to perform the upgrade.
Once your PM3 is running Version 97 Firmware, you will be able to download and run future firmware updates using your Mac (no PC necessary).

johnlvs2run · Post by **johnlvs2run** » September 17th, 2006, 5:07 pm

I wasn't able to download the iso for Knoppix, but am able to transfer an iso to cd with CDburnerXP Pro.

Meanwhile I've been looking at various distributions, screenshots, installation instructions, and how to partition the hard drive.

Once the details are worked out, I'm aiming towards installation of Ubuntu.

PingPong · Post by **PingPong** » September 17th, 2006, 9:05 pm

Bob S. wrote:Don't trust those newfangled transistor things. If it ain't got no vacuum tubes it ain't no computer.

The purpose of the transistors is to run Windows.

Bob S. · Post by **Bob S.** » September 17th, 2006, 10:20 pm

PingPong wrote:
Bob S. wrote:Don't trust those newfangled transistor things. If it ain't got no vacuum tubes it ain't no computer.
The purpose of the transistors is to run Windows. :D

I slide mine back and forth to open and close them. They also have shades and drapes.

Bob S.

johnlvs2run · Post by **johnlvs2run** » September 19th, 2006, 8:38 pm

I partitioned the hard drive last night, and installed Ubuntu this morning.

Yippee!

Thanks to the inspiration from Tyn and this thread.

Tyn · Post by **Tyn** » September 20th, 2006, 3:09 am

You're welcome!!

congrats!

What about the 5 Q, John??

atheist · Post by **atheist** » October 9th, 2006, 10:57 pm

For beginning Linux users, Ubuntu Dapper is probably one of the best distros. it's based on Debian, which is very stable. it's also one of the fastest growing Linux distros out there. it's free, and it has an extensive community support network.

C2 software does not, as far as I know, run on Linux, so tack an extra $100-$200 or whatever microsoft charges for their virus magnet to the price of C2 software.

you can google "ubuntu" to find the site where you can download a free copy (yes it's free, as in "free beer").

i'm happy to answer any questions, too.

-steve
Registered Linux User #424168

--
Microsoft is not the answer; it's the question. The answer is either "No," or "Linux."

johnlvs2run · Post by **johnlvs2run** » October 10th, 2006, 1:07 am

atheist wrote:C2 software does not, as far as I know, run on Linux, so tack an extra $100-$200 or whatever microsoft charges for their virus magnet to the price of C2 software.

Most people have windows already or can get it, so that's not an extra cost to tack on.

atheist · Post by **atheist** » October 10th, 2006, 12:36 pm

true, but many people want to turn an older computer into a dedicated rowpro machine, and rowpro doesn't do so well (in my experience) with anything before xp.

oh, yeah- if you're running windows, you're going to need antivirus software as well if you plan to connect to the internet. $$$

-steve

johnlvs2run · Post by **johnlvs2run** » October 10th, 2006, 4:02 pm

Antivirus software is free.

igoeja · Post by **igoeja** » October 10th, 2006, 4:14 pm

I'm a programmer for Windows, VBA for Excel/Access, so my work PC's, as well as the home work PC are Windows-based. My personal computer is an older iMac running OS X, and I'll be buying a newer iMac in the next couple of months.

I like the beauty and the quality of the Mac environment, the software hardware and the OS, but need to get some things done, and that requires a PC.

Tyn · Post by **Tyn** » October 11th, 2006, 2:58 am

You must be very happy with the core (2) duo, with the option of dual boot!!

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