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C2Shawn
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by C2Shawn » July 13th, 2006, 5:02 pm
predator7906 wrote:Hi again, I also would like to know if the model E will work with the slides? Thanks
The short answer is Yes.
However, we are going to modify the slide tray very slightly to accomodate the different style caster wheel on the E. You probably wouldn't notice anything, but if someone is really picky about things like this they can shim up their E about 1/8" or so and it will be perfect.
Shawn
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by Gus » July 13th, 2006, 5:42 pm
C2Shawn wrote:You probably wouldn't notice anything, but if someone is really picky about things like this they can shim up their E about 1/8" or so and it will be perfect.
Shawn
Any bets on John Rupp comments about jacking the erg?
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by Dickie » July 14th, 2006, 7:16 am
Gus wrote:C2Shawn wrote:You probably wouldn't notice anything, but if someone is really picky about things like this they can shim up their E about 1/8" or so and it will be perfect.
Shawn
Any bets on John Rupp comments about jacking the erg?
Never bet against a sure thing
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by PaulS » July 14th, 2006, 7:28 am
C2Shawn wrote:predator7906 wrote:Hi again, I also would like to know if the model E will work with the slides? Thanks
The short answer is Yes.
However, we are going to modify the slide tray very slightly to accomodate the different style caster wheel on the E. You probably wouldn't notice anything, but if someone is really picky about things like this they can shim up their E about 1/8" or so and it will be perfect.
Shawn
"Shim up" which end? And please don't just say 'the back', that's not specific enough because of the whole boat orientation thing. Though I would think that "the back end" would be the end opposite the flywheel, one is never sure (a reasonable argument could be made for that being the front, as in 'pulling the Erg forward'.). Perhaps Shawn can clear that one up once and for all too. Or are we just going to have to use "Flywheel end" and "Rail End"?
Erg on,
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C2Shawn
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by C2Shawn » July 17th, 2006, 10:31 am
PaulS wrote:C2Shawn wrote:predator7906 wrote:Hi again, I also would like to know if the model E will work with the slides? Thanks
The short answer is Yes.
However, we are going to modify the slide tray very slightly to accomodate the different style caster wheel on the E. You probably wouldn't notice anything, but if someone is really picky about things like this they can shim up their E about 1/8" or so and it will be perfect.
Shawn
"Shim up" which end? And please don't just say 'the back', that's not specific enough because of the whole boat orientation thing. Though I would think that "the back end" would be the end opposite the flywheel, one is never sure (a reasonable argument could be made for that being the front, as in 'pulling the Erg forward'.). Perhaps Shawn can clear that one up once and for all too. Or are we just going to have to use "Flywheel end" and "Rail End"?
OK, I'll bite. But, I will use C2 part description terms.
The new style caster wheels on the front foot of the Model E slightly interferes with the tray on the slide. The rear leg does not have casters, so there's no problem there. Doing nothing is acceptable. However, just in case there is someone out there that is anal about things, a thin shim to raise the front foot will correct it.
You are free to shim up the front end, back end or both. Whatever floats your boat... I mean erg.
Shawn
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johnlvs2run
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by johnlvs2run » July 17th, 2006, 10:54 am
C2Shawn wrote:You are free to shim up the front end, back end or both. Whatever floats your boat... I mean erg.
Shawn
I am happy to see it is fine to do this!
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by ehagberg » July 17th, 2006, 11:39 am
John Rupp wrote:C2Shawn wrote:You are free to shim up the front end, back end or both. Whatever floats your boat... I mean erg.
Shawn
I am happy to see it is fine to do this!
As he's mentioning this in relation to an erg on slides, it's OK.
No world records can be done on slides though. Shimming the front or back isn't stated to be OK for non-slide WR attempts. They still have to be done on an un-doctored machine.
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by Wiecher » July 18th, 2006, 6:13 pm
$ 310,- in the USA, in Europe that will be $ 500,- ?? and that for a few extra's?? Hopefully the model E will have the same row feeling. I think/ feel that there is a difference between model C en D, maybe there will be a slight difference between the new modells?
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by johnlvs2run » July 18th, 2006, 6:30 pm
ehagberg wrote:As he's mentioning this in relation to an erg on slides, it's OK.
Right!
It's OK to row with a jacked, or unjacked, erg for the rankings!
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by laupi » July 23rd, 2006, 1:51 pm
John Rupp wrote:ehagberg wrote:As he's mentioning this in relation to an erg on slides, it's OK.
Right!
It's OK to row with a jacked, or unjacked, erg for the rankings!
Is there a reason for jacking up specifically? I feel okay on the way the D was build. Will the E be a bit more fast in comparison then?
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by Bob S. » July 23rd, 2006, 3:25 pm
laupi wrote:Is there a reason for jacking up specifically? I feel okay on the way the D was build. Will the E be a bit more fast in comparison then?[/size]
The erg or the price (in Europe)? If it is the price, would you call it hijacking?
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by johnlvs2run » July 23rd, 2006, 3:39 pm
laupi wrote:Is there a reason for jacking up specifically?
Yes it makes you bounce up and down as you row.
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by rowbear » July 24th, 2006, 7:32 am
If it ain't broke...
Sounds like a model D with some touch up. Perhaps just update the PM4, etc, but leave something great as it is. That said, it took me a long time to convert from the Model B (mostly because I think the model C was a bit of a loser, compared to the
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by akit110 » July 24th, 2006, 8:48 am
>"That said, it took me a long time to convert from the Model B (mostly because I think the model C was a bit of a loser, compared to the Cool"
It goes to show you how subjective it all is
I was just thinking that I am so glad I have my 'ole' Model C. It's not as rustic (and heavy drag) as the Model B, nor is it as generic and plastic-y looking as the D and E! When I use the D at the company gym, I can never quite adjust to the higher pitched sound, the handle, or the amount of options on the display. It just feels all wrong (to me)!
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by johnlvs2run » July 24th, 2006, 10:31 am
rowbear wrote:leave something great as it is. That said, it took me a long time to convert from the Model B (mostly because I think the model C was a bit of a loser, compared to the B ).
I agree. The B is the best c2 machine made so far, and the pm2+ the best monitor. When I sell one I'll probably get rid of the C and keep the B.
The drag factor is not an issue. Just fashion a speed ring out of black roofing paper, or rubber from an old truck tire innertube, or just about anything and attached it with plastic ties to the side. You can cover the perimeter the same way and this also reduces the noise.
bikeerg 75 5'8" 155# - 18.5 - 51.9 - 568 - 1:52.7 - 8:03.8 - 20:13.1 - 14620 - 40:58.7 - 28855 - 1:23:48.0
rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2