Chad Williams Redefines Indoor Rowing

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Re: Chad Williams Redefines Indoor Rowing

Post by johnlvs2run » April 18th, 2006, 2:31 pm

ehagberg wrote:#3 - because running isn't rowing. Erging is off-water rowing and rowing is on-water rowing.
A boat is not an erg.
Running isn't related to rowing in any sense.
Right. Running is much more difficult, more fun, more useful, more energizing, healthier and more productive than is rowing. :lol:
#4 - see #3.

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Post by Daren » April 18th, 2006, 2:48 pm

Sir P wrote:Some of you could do with showing a bit more respect to Chad.
If he earns it, he'll get it. He's done nothing that I find deserving of my respect.
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Post by hjs » April 18th, 2006, 3:23 pm

Daren wrote:
Sir P wrote:Some of you could do with showing a bit more respect to Chad.
If he earns it, he'll get it. He's done nothing that I find deserving of my respect.
Not true daren,

everything he says you disagree with, you can,t look objective ad him anymore. That's human, but atmit it. The same goes for me and you know about whom I am speaking.

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Post by Daren » April 18th, 2006, 3:39 pm

hjs wrote:
Daren wrote:
Sir P wrote:Some of you could do with showing a bit more respect to Chad.
If he earns it, he'll get it. He's done nothing that I find deserving of my respect.
Not true daren,

everything he says you disagree with, you can,t look objective ad him anymore. That's human, but atmit it.
That's different. I can disagree with someone while still respecting them. But, you're correct; I don't respect Chad, and yes, it's a direct result of previous behaviour and postings.

He can earn back my respect, but it'd take a change in his style to be honest. Besides, I'm sure he doesn't much care whether I respect him or not. =)
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Post by johnlvs2run » April 18th, 2006, 3:44 pm

How ironic, that you can't respect someone who stands up for integrity.
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Post by Daren » April 18th, 2006, 3:47 pm

John Rupp wrote:How ironic, that you can't respect someone who stands up for integrity.
It's not ironic in the slightest. Some of those that have been paying attention will understand why already, but essentially my lack of respect stems from how Chad has conducted his campaigns, rather than the underlying principles of those campaigns.
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Re: Chad Williams Redefines Indoor Rowing

Post by ehagberg » April 18th, 2006, 4:30 pm

John Rupp wrote:
ehagberg wrote:#3 - because running isn't rowing. Erging is off-water rowing and rowing is on-water rowing.
A boat is not an erg.
But at least you are making similar motions and exercising the same muscles in a similar manner as you would when erging.
Right. Running is much more difficult, more fun, more useful, more energizing, healthier and more productive than is rowing. :lol:
BS. Rowing is a whole-body workout, or at least much moreso than running.

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Post by johnlvs2run » April 18th, 2006, 4:34 pm

All runners can row. Not all rowers can run.

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Post by ehagberg » April 18th, 2006, 5:00 pm

John Rupp wrote:All runners can row. Not all rowers can run.
I'd claim the reverse is true. Without special equipment, one with both arms amputated will not be able to row, but they can run. Anyone with the ability to row can also run.

Runners often pick up rowing because their joints have taken too much of a beating from running. Does that make running better than rowing? I don't think so.

And how much of a workout do your back/lats/arms get from running? Not very much at all. From rowing? A lot.

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Post by Ducatista » April 18th, 2006, 5:34 pm

Everyone knows swimming is the One True Sport. Number two: Hockey, of course. You runners and rowers are welcome to dice it up for third.

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Post by fish » April 18th, 2006, 6:06 pm

Through injury and illness, I trained on the erg. I worked very hard and posted my times in the rankings because I was proud of what I had accomplished. Honor is enough for me, giving me the opportunity to participate in indoor rowing that I would otherwise not have. Evidently, honor is not good enough and any pride I have is foolish.

At this point, I enjoy rowing and I am looking forward to being faster next year. I would love to go to Boston but Disneyland (and the Screamer) is calling. The nonathlon and the CTC look fun and hopefully honor will be enough for those. Advice taken. I feel participating in this forum will only be detrimental to my enthusiasm. I would like to say thank you to those members who believe in the spirit of competition.

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Post by johnlvs2run » April 18th, 2006, 6:32 pm

ehagberg wrote:Runners often pick up rowing because their joints have taken too much of a beating from running.
My joints are fine.

I know a lot of people who don't run, and also don't have good joints.

They could probably row though.
Does that make running better than rowing? I don't think so.
Like I said, running is more difficult, and also more fun, more useful, more energizing, healthier and more productive than is rowing. Thus, yes, this makes running better than rowing. I most certainly enjoy being able to run, much more than being able to row.
And how much of a workout do your back/lats/arms get from running? Not very much at all. From rowing? A lot.
Running exercises your whole body.

As example, when I first got the erg in 1993 it was no problem at all for me to do workouts of over an hour immediately. I did sessions of 15x 2:00 with 2:00 rests plus warmups and warmdowns three times in the first two weeks.

I bet you could take most serious rowers who don't run, and they would not be able to go out and RUN this session three times in two weeks, plus running the other days as well.

Anyway I think there is no point to tally one against the other as both are good exercises. As you have said, those who can't run can still row, and I see this as being a good thing that they can.
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Re: Chad Williams Redefines Indoor Rowing

Post by aussietaff » April 18th, 2006, 7:27 pm

ehagberg wrote:
John Rupp wrote:
ehagberg wrote:#3 - because running isn't rowing. Erging is off-water rowing and rowing is on-water rowing.
A boat is not an erg.
But at least you are making similar motions and exercising the same muscles in a similar manner as you would when erging.
Would sitting in my rocking chair in front of the telly raising a nice cool beer to my lips at frequent intervals (SPM 25 say) count :lol: ??

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Post by seat5 » April 18th, 2006, 7:50 pm

Would sitting in my rocking chair in front of the telly raising a nice cool beer to my lips at frequent intervals (SPM 25 say) count
Absolutely! But not if the rocking chair is on slides!!!!
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Post by dadams » April 18th, 2006, 7:52 pm

seat5 wrote:
Would sitting in my rocking chair in front of the telly raising a nice cool beer to my lips at frequent intervals (SPM 25 say) count
Absolutely! But not if the rocking chair is on slides!!!!

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