What Training Have You Done Today?

General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
Dangerscouse
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » May 4th, 2025, 4:22 am

1:23:14.6 21,097 1:58.3 211 1026 22 134
11:54.8 3,000 1:59.1 207 1012 23 126
11:52.3 6,000 1:58.7 209 1019 23 130
11:50.0 9,000 1:58.3 211 1026 23 132
11:50.7 12,000 1:58.4 211 1024 23 136
11:48.2 15,000 1:58.0 213 1032 23 137
11:47.5 18,000 1:57.9 213 1034 23 139
11:47.9 21,000 1:57.9 213 1033 23 140
0:23.1 21,097 1:59.0 207 1013 21 140

I had a loose plan of slowing down when I reached the inflection point, but it never seemed to happen. Possibly around 19k it got a little bit more noticeable, but not by much.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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nick rockliff
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by nick rockliff » May 4th, 2025, 4:49 am

Sakly wrote:
May 4th, 2025, 1:58 am
nick rockliff wrote:
May 3rd, 2025, 3:40 pm
I've only ever done one FM which didn't go to plan, so can't offer any advice. Will be watching out for your result though with interest.
Out if interest: what went wrong? Is the given PB in your signature the result of that FM?
Yes that's the one in my signature. I decided to have a go at the FM one Sunday morning but hadn't done any specific training but had regularly done 32k in a day during normal training split AM/PM.

I thought sitting on 1:49/50 would be achievable. Got to about 10k to go when my right leg sort of seized up. Had to stop, get off the erg and have a walk around until it felt like back to normal. Had to jump on and end with a 10k.

It's probably one distance I could have PB'd into my 50s or even early 60s but didn't really interest me at all.
68 6' 4" 108kg
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dino » May 4th, 2025, 5:48 am

Another C2 season done and to borrow a phrase..."not great, not terrible" but much better than the last 3 years.
After the holiday challenge thought I might make a million this year but more illness put pay to that with Feb wiped out.
So ended up on 847,815m (194,242 on the water and 653,573 on the erg)... I count my Strava logged water metres which I enter in my C2 log book manually so the C2 logbook is my main log for rowing rather then Strava.
Two sessions so far this season, 1 OTE and 1 OTW, 16k in the bank. I shall keep plodding on!
57M HWT
50+PB 1m 326m, 500m 1:38,7, 1k 3:31.6, 2k 7:16.8, 5k 19:06.6, 6k 23:26.0, 30m 7730m, 10k 39:26.1, 60m 15025m, HM 1:25:04.7, FM 2:59:26.0, 50k 3:49:17.3, 34.2k OTW 3:52:57
A long way away from any of these PBs now!!

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Sakly » May 4th, 2025, 11:57 am

nick rockliff wrote:
May 4th, 2025, 4:49 am
Sakly wrote:
May 4th, 2025, 1:58 am
nick rockliff wrote:
May 3rd, 2025, 3:40 pm
I've only ever done one FM which didn't go to plan, so can't offer any advice. Will be watching out for your result though with interest.
Out if interest: what went wrong? Is the given PB in your signature the result of that FM?
Yes that's the one in my signature. I decided to have a go at the FM one Sunday morning but hadn't done any specific training but had regularly done 32k in a day during normal training split AM/PM.

I thought sitting on 1:49/50 would be achievable. Got to about 10k to go when my right leg sort of seized up. Had to stop, get off the erg and have a walk around until it felt like back to normal. Had to jump on and end with a 10k.

It's probably one distance I could have PB'd into my 50s or even early 60s but didn't really interest me at all.
Sounds awful :shock:
Could you finish the last 10k at the same pace, after your leg was back to normal? The time in your signature is not bad at all, especially with a coffee break in it :lol:
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:47:07.0
My log

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Sakly » May 4th, 2025, 12:06 pm

After a decent warmup of 3k I decided to go for a first sighter of week 2. The Widow's Sons - ROWBIN HOOD.
5x4min with decreasing rests and 4 scores:
1.overall
2.fastest
3.slowest
4.4th interval
My strategy was to go for fastest in the 1st, when fresh. Back off to assumed average for 2nd/3rd, go harder on the 4th again and let 5th be the slowest, as it was very likely it will happen anyway :lol:
Strategy went well, but I was dying afterwards :lol:

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	♥️
20:00.0	5,867	1:42.2	327	1426	27	174
4:00.0	1,218	1:38.5	366	1559	31	171
r: 2:30	38						
4:00.0	1,159	1:43.5	315	1385	26	173
r: 2:00	32						
4:00.0	1,158	1:43.6	315	1382	26	175
r: 1:30	32						
4:00.0	1,191	1:40.7	342	1477	30	178
r: 1:00	18						
4:00.0	1,142	1:45.0	302	1338	24	176
r120
After a short break, 20min for cooldown.

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	♥️
20:00.0	4,931	2:01.6	194	968	18	151
4:00.0	962	2:04.7	180	920	19	147
8:00.0	968	2:03.9	184	932	18	149
12:00.0	975	2:03.0	188	946	18	148
16:00.0	996	2:00.4	200	988	18	153
20:00.0	1,030	1:56.5	221	1061	18	159
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:47:07.0
My log

nick rockliff
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by nick rockliff » May 4th, 2025, 5:49 pm

Sakly wrote:
May 4th, 2025, 11:57 am
nick rockliff wrote:
May 4th, 2025, 4:49 am
Sakly wrote:
May 4th, 2025, 1:58 am


Out if interest: what went wrong? Is the given PB in your signature the result of that FM?
Yes that's the one in my signature. I decided to have a go at the FM one Sunday morning but hadn't done any specific training but had regularly done 32k in a day during normal training split AM/PM.

I thought sitting on 1:49/50 would be achievable. Got to about 10k to go when my right leg sort of seized up. Had to stop, get off the erg and have a walk around until it felt like back to normal. Had to jump on and end with a 10k.

It's probably one distance I could have PB'd into my 50s or even early 60s but didn't really interest me at all.
Sounds awful :shock:
Could you finish the last 10k at the same pace, after your leg was back to normal? The time in your signature is not bad at all, especially with a coffee break in it :lol:
Can't remember the exact details, was just over 20 years ago :lol:
68 6' 4" 108kg
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » May 5th, 2025, 3:25 am

My go to session when I'm fatigued but I feel like I still need a more intense session.

Like all of us can probably relate to there's a lot of hidden stuff in the numbers, not least the last interval having a HD long enough to unstrap one foot, then to get a grip and start again.

This was really good to prove to myself that I can fight through the reluctance & doubts to still feel relatively comfortable at 1:43 pace

1k repeats undefined rests
24:59.2 7,000 1:47.0 285 1280 27 146
3:46.7 1,000 1:53.3 240 1127 26 128
r: 0:33 13
3:41.8 1,000 1:50.9 257 1183 26 134
r: 1:00 18
3:35.8 1,000 1:47.9 279 1258 26 143
r: 1:15 18
3:26.4 1,000 1:43.2 318 1395 30 151
r: 1:28 20
3:25.6 1,000 1:42.8 322 1408 30 156
r: 2:10 18
3:29.2 1,000 1:44.6 306 1352 29 160
r: 1:57 24
3:33.8 1,000 1:46.9 287 1286 28 154
r: 0:44 26
r137
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by jcross485 » May 5th, 2025, 2:23 pm

It's been a minute since I've posted but my training was a bit lighter on the erg while I worked towards some strength goals. I managed to knock a couple of big strength goals off last weekend for my 40th as well as a couple of other strength / fitness goals and challenges I had set as well. A deadlift number I've hit countless times before but I like to maintain as a good baseline of strength, an all-time PR on weighted pull-ups and dips, and a couple of other less remarkable but more personal challenges I was happy to check off.

This past week, we had a bit of an illness run through the house that hit me as well - a lot of low intensity "training" (walking, rucking) but finally on the back side of it and feeling back to 80% or 90% recovered.

At a high level, my plan plan is to have 4 erg sessions and 2 strength sessions over the course of a 6 day block - generally speaking, it's something like this: hard erg (threshold), aerobic erg, strength, hard erg (VO2Max), aerobic erg, strength. I don't plan off or rest days but take them as needed or as my schedule with work and life dictate.

Back to training - yesterday, I wanted to see where my erg fitness was at after training a bit more for other things the last little bit. I thought I was more recovered than I was from the illness and while I was training on the erg (albeit with much less volume), I figured a baseline test would be good. I went a bit all in on a 10 x 500m (2:00 rest) session. It turned out to be a poor idea as I was not as recovered as I thought from the illness. Overall though, happy that I can call this a starting point.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
37:45.0 10,000 1:53.2 241 1129 23

5:08.9 1,250 2:03.5 186 938 19
5:08.7 1,250 2:03.4 186 939 19
r: 1:00 30
1:43.6 500 1:43.6 315 1383 28
r: 2:00 33
1:43.6 500 1:43.6 315 1383 28
r: 2:00 29
1:43.4 500 1:43.4 317 1389 28
r: 2:00 37
1:43.4 500 1:43.4 317 1389 28
r: 2:00 30
1:43.4 500 1:43.4 317 1389 28
r: 2:00 31
1:43.3 500 1:43.3 318 1392 29
r: 2:00 34
1:42.9 500 1:42.9 321 1405 29
r: 2:00 37
1:42.8 500 1:42.8 322 1408 29
r: 2:00 34
1:42.5 500 1:42.5 325 1418 29
r: 2:00 30
1:41.4 500 1:41.4 336 1455 30
r: 2:00 25
5:08.6 1,250 2:03.4 186 940 19
5:08.6 1,250 2:03.4 186 940 19

Today, opted for a bit easier and shorter session on the erg - 2.5k warm up, 5k @ HM-ish effort, 2.5k cool down. The goal was to keep it aerobic with just a short touch of quality. Again, pretty pleased that this is where I am starting from as the pace / power for the HR is pretty good compared to some historical results.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
40:30.0 10,000 2:01.5 195 971 19 143

5:08.7 1,250 2:03.4 186 939 19 130
5:08.7 1,250 2:03.4 186 939 19 137
r: 1:00 40
4:58.8 1,250 1:59.5 205 1005 20 147
4:58.8 1,250 1:59.5 205 1005 20 151
4:58.7 1,250 1:59.4 205 1006 20 152
4:58.6 1,250 1:59.4 205 1006 20 153
r: 1:00 37
5:08.8 1,250 2:03.5 186 939 19 140
5:08.7 1,250 2:03.4 186 939 19 142
M, '85; 5'10" (1.78m), 185lbs (84kg)

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by alex9026 » May 6th, 2025, 4:27 am

nick rockliff wrote:
May 3rd, 2025, 3:40 pm
I've only ever done one FM which didn't go to plan, so can't offer any advice. Will be watching out for your result though with interest.
Thanks Nick, sounds like you had a rough ride with your attempt and still get over the line with a very respectable time.
34 6'2 88kg
1:00 368m
500m 1:24.4
4:00 1282m
2k 6:24
5k 17:27
6k 20:57

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » May 6th, 2025, 6:56 am

jcross485 wrote:
May 5th, 2025, 2:23 pm
It's been a minute since I've posted but my training was a bit lighter on the erg while I worked towards some strength goals. I managed to knock a couple of big strength goals off last weekend for my 40th as well as a couple of other strength / fitness goals and challenges I had set as well. A deadlift number I've hit countless times before but I like to maintain as a good baseline of strength, an all-time PR on weighted pull-ups and dips, and a couple of other less remarkable but more personal challenges I was happy to check off.

This past week, we had a bit of an illness run through the house that hit me as well - a lot of low intensity "training" (walking, rucking) but finally on the back side of it and feeling back to 80% or 90% recovered.

At a high level, my plan plan is to have 4 erg sessions and 2 strength sessions over the course of a 6 day block - generally speaking, it's something like this: hard erg (threshold), aerobic erg, strength, hard erg (VO2Max), aerobic erg, strength. I don't plan off or rest days but take them as needed or as my schedule with work and life dictate.

Back to training - yesterday, I wanted to see where my erg fitness was at after training a bit more for other things the last little bit. I thought I was more recovered than I was from the illness and while I was training on the erg (albeit with much less volume), I figured a baseline test would be good. I went a bit all in on a 10 x 500m (2:00 rest) session. It turned out to be a poor idea as I was not as recovered as I thought from the illness. Overall though, happy that I can call this a starting point.
Happy birthday for last week, and that's a solid set of 500s with little specific erg training and still feeling the effects of illness
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Sakly » May 6th, 2025, 8:49 am

jcross485 wrote:
May 5th, 2025, 2:23 pm
I managed to knock a couple of big strength goals off last weekend for my 40th as well as a couple of other strength / fitness goals and challenges I had set as well.
Congratulations for getting your goals in and belated happy birthday :)
Curious about your upcoming erg training and results!
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:47:07.0
My log

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Sakly » May 6th, 2025, 9:00 am

Needed some movement, but legs were tired from squats in the gym, which I did yesterday with tired legs from Rowbin Hood session week two the day before :lol:
Rowed the session blind again. During split 6 I needed to readjust the volume of my phone, lost ca. 10s or something. So pace was probably something similar to split 5.

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	♥️
1:28:51	21,097	2:06.3	174	897	17	128
10:57.6	2,638	2:04.6	181	922	18	130
11:03.7	5,276	2:05.7	176	905	18	128
11:02.0	7,914	2:05.4	177	909	18	127
11:07.5	10,552	2:06.5	173	894	18	127
11:11.1	13,190	2:07.1	170	885	18	127
11:21.7	15,828	2:09.2	162	858	17	127
11:06.9	18,466	2:06.4	173	896	18	129
11:00.7	21,097	2:05.5	177	908	18	130
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:47:07.0
My log

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by KeithT » May 6th, 2025, 9:52 am

Had some days off from work and did some fun things (fish, golf) but squeezed in some training. Nothing too exciting but had one day I felt terrible on the ERG and another where I felt great - the body is just weird. Also, been dealing with yet another medical thing - hoping it's nothing but seeing some doctors.
57 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » May 6th, 2025, 10:57 am

KeithT wrote:
May 6th, 2025, 9:52 am
Had some days off from work and did some fun things (fish, golf) but squeezed in some training. Nothing too exciting but had one day I felt terrible on the ERG and another where I felt great - the body is just weird. Also, been dealing with yet another medical thing - hoping it's nothing but seeing some doctors.
Sorry to hear that Keith. Best of luck with it, and hopefully you'll rediscover your motivation for competing on the erg again
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Sakly » May 6th, 2025, 10:58 am

KeithT wrote:
May 6th, 2025, 9:52 am
Had some days off from work and did some fun things (fish, golf) but squeezed in some training. Nothing too exciting but had one day I felt terrible on the ERG and another where I felt great - the body is just weird. Also, been dealing with yet another medical thing - hoping it's nothing but seeing some doctors.
Doesn't sound nice :cry:
Hope you get it sorted and more back to normal soon.
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:26.2
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:47:07.0
My log

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