What Training Have You Done Today?

[Sakly]

Did week 3 of the ErgEnduranceSeries as well yesterday:

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
33:20.5 7,332 2:16.4 138 774 25 176
15:21.7 3,333 2:18.2 132 755 25 172
r: 3:33 35
1:23.0 333 2:04.6 181 922 29 181
r: 3:33 20
15:15.3 3,333 2:17.3 135 765 25 180
r: 3:33 16
1:20.4 333 2:00.7 199 984 31 187
r71

I gave everything. Tomorrow morning I have sore muscles in the upper back but totally in a good way. And my shoulder is still fine. So happy about that
I feel able to achieve bigger goals now.

That sounds great, Julia!

[Dangerscouse]

1:20:05.1 21,097 1:53.8 237 1115 27 150
11:30.7 3,000 1:55.1 229 1089 27 137
11:24.4 6,000 1:54.0 236 1111 27 142
11:20.2 9,000 1:53.3 240 1126 27 148
11:19.2 12,000 1:53.2 241 1130 27 154
11:19.0 15,000 1:53.1 241 1131 27 155
11:26.0 18,000 1:54.3 234 1105 27 156
11:24.1 21,000 1:54.0 236 1112 27 161
0:21.5 21,097 1:50.8 257 1184 28 160

R27 was the only target, as I'm feeling like I've lost touch with higher stroke rates, so I need to incrementally rebuild them back in.

When I was getting sicky burps from last night's pizza (not my choice) and feeling slightly nauseous, I knew it was time to slow down a bit.

Considering this was my fourth consecutive either hard or semi-hard session, I was expecting 1:55/56 pace

[Dangerscouse]

I gave everything. Tomorrow morning I have sore muscles in the upper back but totally in a good way. And my shoulder is still fine. So happy about that
I feel able to achieve bigger goals now.

Really happy to hear this Julia.

[alex9026]

1:20:05.1 21,097 1:53.8 237 1115 27 150
11:30.7 3,000 1:55.1 229 1089 27 137
11:24.4 6,000 1:54.0 236 1111 27 142
11:20.2 9,000 1:53.3 240 1126 27 148
11:19.2 12,000 1:53.2 241 1130 27 154
11:19.0 15,000 1:53.1 241 1131 27 155
11:26.0 18,000 1:54.3 234 1105 27 156
11:24.1 21,000 1:54.0 236 1112 27 161
0:21.5 21,097 1:50.8 257 1184 28 160

R27 was the only target, as I'm feeling like I've lost touch with higher stroke rates, so I need to incrementally rebuild them back in.

When I was getting sicky burps from last night's pizza (not my choice) and feeling slightly nauseous, I knew it was time to slow down a bit.

Considering this was my fourth consecutive either hard or semi-hard session, I was expecting 1:55/56 pace

Really good work going on here.

[Kerry1960]

1:20:05.1 21,097 1:53.8 237 1115 27 150
11:30.7 3,000 1:55.1 229 1089 27 137
11:24.4 6,000 1:54.0 236 1111 27 142
11:20.2 9,000 1:53.3 240 1126 27 148
11:19.2 12,000 1:53.2 241 1130 27 154
11:19.0 15,000 1:53.1 241 1131 27 155
11:26.0 18,000 1:54.3 234 1105 27 156
11:24.1 21,000 1:54.0 236 1112 27 161
0:21.5 21,097 1:50.8 257 1184 28 160

R27 was the only target, as I'm feeling like I've lost touch with higher stroke rates, so I need to incrementally rebuild them back in.

When I was getting sicky burps from last night's pizza (not my choice) and feeling slightly nauseous, I knew it was time to slow down a bit.

Considering this was my fourth consecutive either hard or semi-hard session, I was expecting 1:55/56 pace

Excellent row here Stu. Nice to see you up the rate a bit. Never done a HM myself but holding r27 for that distance at that pace is impressive.

[bassongirl]

I gave everything. Tomorrow morning I have sore muscles in the upper back but totally in a good way. And my shoulder is still fine. So happy about that
I feel able to achieve bigger goals now.

Really happy to hear this Julia.

I think a real game changer was your advice that my grip might be too loose. I‘m now more activated at the catch with a slightly tighter grip. I have less problems after a hard long interval session than after a UT2. I‘m still working on it.

[Sakly]

Something isn't quite right atm.
Started a low rate HM, as my back was aching and even after 8 1/2 hours of sleep I felt not recovered. Stopped halfway, as HR was going to rise at nearly no power output
I assume this is related to my allergies. Last year I had nearly no symptoms and cannot remember I had any issues with stamina as well, but this year it seems a little bit different.
Will see how it develops over the next days/weeks. Currently I feel a huge dip in recovery and stamina, despite having no 'real' symptoms (near to nothing, only light sniffy noise from time to time and my throat a bit rough sometimes).

Code: Select all

Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	❤️
44:21.5	10,569	2:05.9	175	903	17	136
11:01.8	2,638	2:05.4	177	910	18	131
11:10.6	5,276	2:07.1	170	886	17	134
11:02.1	7,914	2:05.4	177	909	18	139
11:01.4	10,552	2:05.3	178	911	18	144
0:05.7	10,569	2:47.6	74	555	0	141

[Dangerscouse]

Something isn't quite right atm.
Started a low rate HM, as my back was aching and even after 8 1/2 hours of sleep I felt not recovered. Stopped halfway, as HR was going to rise at nearly no power output
I assume this is related to my allergies. Last year I had nearly no symptoms and cannot remember I had any issues with stamina as well, but this year it seems a little bit different.
Will see how it develops over the next days/weeks. Currently I feel a huge dip in recovery and stamina, despite having no 'real' symptoms (near to nothing, only light sniffy noise from time to time and my throat a bit rough sometimes). ]

Allergies are funny things as you can be unpredictable, and they can also really affect you without being very noticeable. Are you taking antihistamines? I'm not sure if they will work specifically for you, but they do help with seasonal allergies

[Dangerscouse]

I think a real game changer was your advice that my grip might be too loose. I‘m now more activated at the catch with a slightly tighter grip. I have less problems after a hard long interval session than after a UT2. I‘m still working on it.

There can be so much lost in translation, and I realised fairly recently that a loose grip means different things to different people. It's good to know that correcting a fairly simple thing can make quite a difference. Too loose a grip won't engage your bigger muscle groups, but too tight a grip will exhaust your forearms.

You'll hopefully adapt to the different type of strain now, as you're probably changing different muscle groups dominance, as well as perfecting the right amount of grip.

[Dangerscouse]

Really good work going on here.

Excellent row here Stu. Nice to see you up the rate a bit. Never done a HM myself but holding r27 for that distance at that pace is impressive.

Thanks fellas. I could have taken the 'normal' path of not doing anything too intense given the previous days, but I just had a gut feeling that I needed to do something with a bit more bite, and at a higher stroke rate. It always used to be my comfort zone, but I'm favouring r25 and under far too much.

I've got a few enforced rest days now, so it was good to feel like I've earned it. I just need to get to sub 79 minutes and then I'll be happier. Something that feels like it's starting to get closer now that my confidence is getting stronger.

[Jbrown1215]

1:20:05.1 21,097 1:53.8 237 1115 27 150
11:30.7 3,000 1:55.1 229 1089 27 137
11:24.4 6,000 1:54.0 236 1111 27 142
11:20.2 9,000 1:53.3 240 1126 27 148
11:19.2 12,000 1:53.2 241 1130 27 154
11:19.0 15,000 1:53.1 241 1131 27 155
11:26.0 18,000 1:54.3 234 1105 27 156
11:24.1 21,000 1:54.0 236 1112 27 161
0:21.5 21,097 1:50.8 257 1184 28 160

R27 was the only target, as I'm feeling like I've lost touch with higher stroke rates, so I need to incrementally rebuild them back in.

When I was getting sicky burps from last night's pizza (not my choice) and feeling slightly nauseous, I knew it was time to slow down a bit.

Considering this was my fourth consecutive either hard or semi-hard session, I was expecting 1:55/56 pace

That’s a strong HM, Stu. Sitting at r27 for that long is no easy feat.

[Jbrown1215]

Did week 3 of the ErgEnduranceSeries as well yesterday:

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
33:20.5 7,332 2:16.4 138 774 25 176
15:21.7 3,333 2:18.2 132 755 25 172
r: 3:33 35
1:23.0 333 2:04.6 181 922 29 181
r: 3:33 20
15:15.3 3,333 2:17.3 135 765 25 180
r: 3:33 16
1:20.4 333 2:00.7 199 984 31 187
r71

I gave everything. Tomorrow morning I have sore muscles in the upper back but totally in a good way. And my shoulder is still fine. So happy about that
I feel able to achieve bigger goals now.

Well done, Julia. This was a very challenging session.

[Sakly]

Something isn't quite right atm.
Started a low rate HM, as my back was aching and even after 8 1/2 hours of sleep I felt not recovered. Stopped halfway, as HR was going to rise at nearly no power output
I assume this is related to my allergies. Last year I had nearly no symptoms and cannot remember I had any issues with stamina as well, but this year it seems a little bit different.
Will see how it develops over the next days/weeks. Currently I feel a huge dip in recovery and stamina, despite having no 'real' symptoms (near to nothing, only light sniffy noise from time to time and my throat a bit rough sometimes). ]

Allergies are funny things as you can be unpredictable, and they can also really affect you without being very noticeable. Are you taking antihistamines? I'm not sure if they will work specifically for you, but they do help with seasonal allergies

Definitely they are!
Not taking antihistamines and I won't, as long as I can prevent.
Two years ago it was so severe, I couldn't get outdoors for some hours without getting very dry eyes, blocked nose, sometimes rough throat. Tired and sleepy all day long, nights were horrible, as blocked nose prevented sleep. Took antihistamines for two years, but didn't help.
Autumn '23 went to a doctor for blood test to see what exactly causes this and then he prescribed specific medicine/antihistamines, told me at the same time "this will never go away, it will only develop further". I thought I would get them, if I need them - these prescriptions are still in my cupboard. Last year I had no symptoms at all.
As I changed my diet around that time, I wanted to see the outcome also in terms of my allergies. Obviously, it has some positive benefit, as I didn't change anything else and before it got worse every year over 5-6 years.
This year it seems to be a little different, but symptoms overall are a 1000 times better than in these two very severe years. If this is all I need to deal with for a month or two, I'll take it!
Sadly, it's the wrong me for an endurance comp like ergenduranceseries

Right back from an hour on the water, starting dragonboat training for an event in August.
My watch logged only 5k, but we had much stops for explanations and several technique drills. Overall a nice session.

[Dangerscouse]

That’s a strong HM, Stu. Sitting at r27 for that long is no easy feat.

Thanks Justin. r27, and up to r29, never used to bother me and it was quite often my preference, but in the past couple of years (I guess) it's been a steady, but too subtle to easily notice, drop to favouring lower stroke rates. I need to make a stand as it won't rectify itself, as it feels like I'm losing some level of performance.

[alex9026]

25:23.9 7,332 1:43.9 312 1373 25
11:29.6 3,333 1:43.4 316 1388 25
r: 3:33 142
1:00.8 333 1:31.2 460 1883 35
r: 3:33 141
11:53.0 3,333 1:46.9 286 1284 24
r: 3:33 112
1:00.4 333 1:30.6 469 1914 37

Probably not the best time to attack this week's Erg Endurance Series after a lot of driving this weekend and frying in the sun for over 90mins at the football yesterday. but probably not far off as good as I've got in me. My 500m and one minute PB's suggest I should've been quicker on the 333m pieces, but since managing the tendonitis in my elbow, I've been hesitant to really push it and "grip and rip" as these efforts really do trigger it.