What Training Have You Done Today?

[p_b82]

This is also appropriate to me, so on a general level I totally agree, but I do wonder if the world has changed from when we were young? I hope not, and IMHO charisma, hard work and adaptability will always be in demand.

I think that in the age of AI application forms there is perhaps more of a case of ticking the right boxes to get you past that first step.

In any field where you interact with clients directly the above 3 are what will keep a person in the role vs shifted sideways though - and almost all those 3 come with experience not a specific paper trail.
I'm an IT tech consultant, but I do root cause analysis, BA work (requirements), coding (PLSQL & web API calls), Validation (documentation to GxP standards), software installation (Aka what when wrong, what do we need to do to fix it, how do we fix it, fixing it and documenting we fixed it) and so a logical/methodical approach to issues and clear prioritisation of workload + communication skills are required every day for me.

Sadly (or in my case it was true) not things that are taught during degree courses.

[PleaseLockIn]

It was already intense when that was the only stuff I was doing - now with even more stuff... I don't know why I do this to myself.

You do it because you need to make mistakes to learn what works and what doesn't. This is a great place to be, as you're clearly trying and not just going through the motions.

A higher resting HR can be a bad sign, but some rest will help that, and then step back and look at it from a different perspective. What's worked, what hasn't, what is important and what do you enjoy? There's no problem with stepping back from the intensity for a bit, and it's advisable as you can't always be in fight mode.

I'd suggest to drop one of the more intense sessions and try to do some more steady state. That will keep your fitness ticking over but not drain your recovery. This also applies to weight training too, don't be too proud to drop the weight and increase the reps. Trying to do everything is clearly not sustainable

For now it is ~64, which is still on the high side for me, but at least I can take a day off to relax. I also need to lock in. Even if I had tried the Pete Plan itself, I would barely have been able to finish 1 cycle.

I learnt the importance of recovery and why I should go so slowly in the SS that it becomes boring. What hasn't worked was trying to put everything in and working like a machine, as my executive functioning has gone to shreds.

I am not sure which session to drop. Probably the last one, as this week I managed to recover in time for the short and long intervals, but notthe sub-max 2k. I will modify the PP5K to not include the last session as it is too tiring to do so. Simply 3 steady state and 2 intervals - enough for me. As for weight training I will focus on higher reps for endurance as I know that is my weak point. 5x rowing, 2x weight training, 2x PE basketball should be more doable.

After the 9 weeks of this modified plan I'll see what to do. Yeah, I should get some OTW experience later.

[alex9026]

Simply 3 steady state and 2 intervals - enough for me. As for weight training I will focus on higher reps for endurance as I know that is my weak point. 5x rowing, 2x weight training, 2x PE basketball should be more doable.

That's a lot for anyone, no wonder you are struggling to recover... I don't want to give you more to overthink about, but I would strip that right back, adapt to it, then add more rowing as fitness and recovery improves. As other life stresses subside, that will allow a little more flexibility in your training and volume.

First higher intensity gym warmup since illness and going for the typical 15min again on the skierg.

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M
15:00.0	4,103m	1:49.6	265	1213	44
3:00.0	808m	1:51.3	253	1171	46
6:00.0	812m	1:50.8	257	1184	45
9:00.0	817m	1:50.1	262	1201	44
12:00.0	826m	1:48.9	271	1231	44
15:00.0	840m	1:47.1	285	1279	44

Not the fasted I ever did, but felt decent. I needed to reduce stroke rate a bit, CVS needs to ramp up to full performance again.
My gym buddy suggested we could do a 500 TT on skierg. Wasn't convinced to get a PB or score near to it, but thought to get a fast 500 in anyway. To my surprise I could par my PB, despite having 50km rowed the last two days and am not fully recovered yet

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M
1:31.3	500m	1:31.3	460	1882	60
0:18.3	100m	1:31.5	457	1872	62
0:17.8	200m	1:29.0	496	2008	61
0:18.0	300m	1:30.0	480	1952	60
0:18.4	400m	1:32.0	449	1846	59
0:18.7	500m	1:33.5	428	1773	61

This could be an indicator for a new PB, when back at 100%

Then some exercises for the chicken legs

Impressive, I tried again to kickstart some Ski Erg as my cross training sessions when I can't get on the rower. At the third time of asking, I'm content with the fact it really isn't for me, making the above doubly impressive!

[PleaseLockIn]

Simply 3 steady state and 2 intervals - enough for me. As for weight training I will focus on higher reps for endurance as I know that is my weak point. 5x rowing, 2x weight training, 2x PE basketball should be more doable.

That's a lot for anyone, no wonder you are struggling to recover... I don't want to give you more to overthink about, but I would strip that right back, adapt to it, then add more rowing as fitness and recovery improves. As other life stresses subside, that will allow a little more flexibility in your training and volume.

First higher intensity gym warmup since illness and going for the typical 15min again on the skierg.

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M
15:00.0	4,103m	1:49.6	265	1213	44
3:00.0	808m	1:51.3	253	1171	46
6:00.0	812m	1:50.8	257	1184	45
9:00.0	817m	1:50.1	262	1201	44
12:00.0	826m	1:48.9	271	1231	44
15:00.0	840m	1:47.1	285	1279	44

Not the fasted I ever did, but felt decent. I needed to reduce stroke rate a bit, CVS needs to ramp up to full performance again.
My gym buddy suggested we could do a 500 TT on skierg. Wasn't convinced to get a PB or score near to it, but thought to get a fast 500 in anyway. To my surprise I could par my PB, despite having 50km rowed the last two days and am not fully recovered yet

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M
1:31.3	500m	1:31.3	460	1882	60
0:18.3	100m	1:31.5	457	1872	62
0:17.8	200m	1:29.0	496	2008	61
0:18.0	300m	1:30.0	480	1952	60
0:18.4	400m	1:32.0	449	1846	59
0:18.7	500m	1:33.5	428	1773	61

This could be an indicator for a new PB, when back at 100%

Then some exercises for the chicken legs

Impressive, I tried again to kickstart some Ski Erg as my cross training sessions when I can't get on the rower. At the third time of asking, I'm content with the fact it really isn't for me, making the above doubly impressive!

Honestly, even with my recovery day I ain't feeling that great. I'll go back to the BPP and start from Week 1. Then if my recovery improves I will be able to add the optional sessions. It's going to still be tough but it's worth it. My recovery is simply not up to it...

I'll stick to the 24 week BPP, 2x weight train/cross train and try to push harder in my studies. But it will be worth it. It's not a "failure," as I did manage to get a 7:58 2k and proved to myself I can handle training 6x a week. I can do it. It will be fine.

[Sakly]

First higher intensity gym warmup since illness and going for the typical 15min again on the skierg.

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M
15:00.0	4,103m	1:49.6	265	1213	44
3:00.0	808m	1:51.3	253	1171	46
6:00.0	812m	1:50.8	257	1184	45
9:00.0	817m	1:50.1	262	1201	44
12:00.0	826m	1:48.9	271	1231	44
15:00.0	840m	1:47.1	285	1279	44

Not the fasted I ever did, but felt decent. I needed to reduce stroke rate a bit, CVS needs to ramp up to full performance again.
My gym buddy suggested we could do a 500 TT on skierg. Wasn't convinced to get a PB or score near to it, but thought to get a fast 500 in anyway. To my surprise I could par my PB, despite having 50km rowed the last two days and am not fully recovered yet

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M
1:31.3	500m	1:31.3	460	1882	60
0:18.3	100m	1:31.5	457	1872	62
0:17.8	200m	1:29.0	496	2008	61
0:18.0	300m	1:30.0	480	1952	60
0:18.4	400m	1:32.0	449	1846	59
0:18.7	500m	1:33.5	428	1773	61

This could be an indicator for a new PB, when back at 100%

Then some exercises for the chicken legs

Impressive, I tried again to kickstart some Ski Erg as my cross training sessions when I can't get on the rower. At the third time of asking, I'm content with the fact it really isn't for me, making the above doubly impressive!

Thx Alex
What makes you thinking "it isn't for you"? Not getting a good connection to the machine? Movement feels awkward? You didn't mention specific things, that make you feel this way.
I am pretty sure it's related to technique on your side.

To put the time above into context: it is over 5s slower than my rowing

[Kerry1960]

An old favourite interval session I haven't done since August this morning. Not quite as cold in the garage today.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
13:30.0 3,733m 1:48.4 274 1243 31
1:30.0 406m 1:50.8 257 1184 31
r: 1:30 21m
1:30.0 411m 1:49.4 267 1217 31
r: 1:30 21m
1:30.0 412m 1:49.2 269 1224 31
r: 3:00 17m
1:30.0 413m 1:48.9 271 1231 31
r: 1:30 19m
1:30.0 414m 1:48.6 273 1237 32
r: 1:30 21m
1:30.0 416m 1:48.1 277 1251 32
r: 3:00 27m
1:30.0 418m 1:47.6 281 1265 33
r: 1:30 22m
1:30.0 420m 1:47.1 285 1279 33
r: 1:30 19m
1:30.0 422m 1:46.6 289 1293 33
r167m

[alex9026]

13:04.5 4,000m 1:38.0 371 1577 29
1:39.8 500m 1:39.8 352 1511 29
r: 3:30 90m
1:39.6 500m 1:39.6 354 1519 29
r: 3:30 164m
1:39.3 500m 1:39.3 357 1530 29
r: 3:30 101m
1:38.8 500m 1:38.8 363 1548 29
r: 3:30 156m
1:38.2 500m 1:38.2 370 1572 29
r: 3:30 249m
1:37.9 500m 1:37.9 373 1583 29
r: 3:30 203m
1:37.3 500m 1:37.3 380 1607 30
r: 3:30 245m
1:33.7 500m 1:33.7 425 1764 32
r1,208m

8x500m/3:30. Setting a starting point for next time out.

39:36.7 10,000m 1:58.8 209 1017 20
7:58.0 2,000m 1:59.5 205 1005 22
7:56.8 4,000m. 1:59.2 207 1011 20
7:54.7 6,000m. 1:58.6 209 1020 20
7:54.8 8,000m. 1:58.7 209 1020 20
7:52.3 10,000m 1:58.0 213 1031 20

10k to finish.

[alex9026]

Thx Alex
What makes you thinking "it isn't for you"? Not getting a good connection to the machine? Movement feels awkward? You didn't mention specific things, that make you feel this way.
I am pretty sure it's related to technique on your side.

To put the time above into context: it is over 5s slower than my rowing

Hard to pinpoint, but I think just the motion itself and in spite of 90+ mins sessions of rowing, running, Wattbike in the past, I just can't hack the monotony of it. Rowing I'll just focus on the task at hand, Ski Erg I just can't there are other activities I'd rather be doing. Very much a case of "each to their own".

[Sakly]

Thx Alex
What makes you thinking "it isn't for you"? Not getting a good connection to the machine? Movement feels awkward? You didn't mention specific things, that make you feel this way.
I am pretty sure it's related to technique on your side.

To put the time above into context: it is over 5s slower than my rowing

Hard to pinpoint, but I think just the motion itself and in spite of 90+ mins sessions of rowing, running, Wattbike in the past, I just can't hack the monotony of it. Rowing I'll just focus on the task at hand, Ski Erg I just can't there are other activities I'd rather be doing. Very much a case of "each to their own".

That's absolutely ok and there is not a solution to it really
For me it is a very welcome alternative to the rower for the warmup in the gym and since using it I got really "warm" with it. Longest distance I did on the skierg was a 10k during tour de skierg last Feb. I wouldn't bother to go for a longer distance, as I have no music in the gym

[putridp]

This week I've been mostly working on UT2 with daily HMs and 10km twice, which has meant a week of early starts to make time. Squats and dumbbell bench press this morning too, which I should do more regularly.

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Date		Meters		Time		Pace	S/M	HR
06/01/25	21,097m		1:28:36.3	2:05.9	20	136
07/01/25	21,097m		1:28:35.6	2:05.9	20	134
07/01/25	10,000m		42:00.0		2:06.0	20	137
08/01/25	21,097m		1:28:36.3	2:05.9	20	130
09/01/25	21,097m		1:28:36.4	2:05.9	20	133
10/01/25	21,097m		1:28:36.3	2:05.9	20	131
11/01/25	21,097m		1:28:36.4	2:05.9	20	131
11/01/25	2x3000m/9:50r	21:34.6		1:47.8	29	163
12/01/25	10,000m		41:40.6		2:05.0	20	137
12/01/25	21,097m		1:28:36.3	2:05.9	20	137

A week total of 174km and some good progress towards the January challenge, The Long Haul. All rowerg.

[Sakly]

This week I've been mostly working on UT2 with daily HMs and 10km twice, which has meant a week of early starts to make time. Squats and dumbbell bench press this morning too, which I should do more regularly.

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Date		Meters		Time		Pace	S/M	HR
06/01/25	21,097m		1:28:36.3	2:05.9	20	136
07/01/25	21,097m		1:28:35.6	2:05.9	20	134
07/01/25	10,000m		42:00.0		2:06.0	20	137
08/01/25	21,097m		1:28:36.3	2:05.9	20	130
09/01/25	21,097m		1:28:36.4	2:05.9	20	133
10/01/25	21,097m		1:28:36.3	2:05.9	20	131
11/01/25	21,097m		1:28:36.4	2:05.9	20	131
11/01/25	2x3000m/9:50r	21:34.6		1:47.8	29	163
12/01/25	10,000m		41:40.6		2:05.0	20	137
12/01/25	21,097m		1:28:36.3	2:05.9	20	137

A week total of 174km and some good progress towards the January challenge, The Long Haul. All rowerg.

Wow, that's serious milage for a single week
Only very few weeks I get over 100, typically more in the 70-80 range

[putridp]

Wow, that's serious milage for a single week
Only very few weeks I get over 100, typically more in the 70-80 range

It's an exceptional weekly distance for me, I've been making a deliberate push. I've got a race on the 1st of Feb which I want to do a mini-taper for, so I'm front-loading the training for the month to achieve the January challenge. I discovered that interval rest time counts for the time-based challenge!

[Sakly]

Wow, that's serious milage for a single week
Only very few weeks I get over 100, typically more in the 70-80 range

It's an exceptional weekly distance for me, I've been making a deliberate push. I've got a race on the 1st of Feb which I want to do a mini-taper for, so I'm front-loading the training for the month to achieve the January challenge. I discovered that interval rest time counts for the time-based challenge!

Ha! Then do intervals of 20s with 5mins rest
I have a marathon beginning of March, so ramped up (a little bit too) fast after my illness I had recently. Today I had a really needed rest day, as my back screamed for it. Hope, tomorrow feeling well again to get going

Good luck for your race in Feb!
If all turns well before 22nd, I probably register for a 500 or/and 1000 on 2nd Feb