Coming back to rowing after a hiatus, but with much better fitness

General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
Tobias Stoehr
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Re: Coming back to rowing after a hiatus, but with much better fitness

Post by Tobias Stoehr » September 25th, 2024, 9:26 am

Yes you are right. Need to sit on your seatbones, not the back of the glutes.

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Re: Coming back to rowing after a hiatus, but with much better fitness

Post by Big J » October 22nd, 2024, 9:46 am

Update:

I'm easing my way back into it with 30r20s, but only one every 3 days at the moment as the weather is still really good for cycling, so I'm out on the bike.

I started at 2:00/500m pace, and I'm currently on 1:52 pace. It is still very easy, and my HR average for that is 135bpm, which is still 10bpm off getting into zone 3.

For reference, I was out on the gravel bike today, and pushed really hard for 65km on technical, punchy gravel roads. My HR average was 150bpm for 2hrs 15m with an average power of 342w.

I expect things will start to get more interesting once I get below about 1:46 pace. I think I'll keep going with the 30r20 up until that point, and then change it up.

Keeping in mind that it's still my build-up phase, I really enjoy negative splitting and often ride my bike like that (finish strong). Keeping with the 30 minute format for now, I'll progress the speed through the splits, increasing 2 seconds at a time. No rate restriction.

So the first would be 1:55, 1:53, 1:51, 1:49 and 1:47. Increase pace 1 second each session, to finish on 1:38-1:40. Then I'll look to work towards a 9000m 30 minute, but I'm not sure exactly how. I'm pretty sure I can do it but it'll be brutal.
Last edited by Big J on October 22nd, 2024, 11:30 am, edited 1 time in total.
40. 203cm. 101kg. Road/gravel cyclist with an occasional rowing habit.

100m - 15.0. 500m - 1:22.5. 1000m - 3:02.5. 2000m - 6:33.9. 5k - 16:44.2. 6k - 21:00.2. 30 minutes - 8636m. 30r20 - 8538m. 10k - 35:37. HM - 1.16:06.5

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Re: Coming back to rowing after a hiatus, but with much better fitness

Post by Dangerscouse » October 22nd, 2024, 11:22 am

Big J wrote:
October 22nd, 2024, 9:46 am
I'm pretty sure I can do it but it'll be brutal.
It certainly will be and equally as impressive
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: Coming back to rowing after a hiatus, but with much better fitness

Post by Big J » November 11th, 2024, 2:09 am

Update: still struggling to find the time for rowing. The weather is still autumnal, rather than wintery, so I've been cycling mostly rather than rowing.

I've been getting on the machine 1-2 week, always for a 30 minute session. I did a 8568m 30m the other day without any plan and quite easily (it started off slow and carried on as such and I got up to that distance mostly in the final 6 minutes, averaging 1:41 pace for that interval).

Snow is on the 2 week forecast, so my cycling will reduce a little and the rowing will increase. The thing is that my cycling is stronger than ever, and it's hard (mentally) to deprioritise that.

For reference, I cycled 161.4km on gravel with 2339m elevation gain yesterday with 324w NP. 6800kcal in one ride :shock:
40. 203cm. 101kg. Road/gravel cyclist with an occasional rowing habit.

100m - 15.0. 500m - 1:22.5. 1000m - 3:02.5. 2000m - 6:33.9. 5k - 16:44.2. 6k - 21:00.2. 30 minutes - 8636m. 30r20 - 8538m. 10k - 35:37. HM - 1.16:06.5

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Re: Coming back to rowing after a hiatus, but with much better fitness

Post by tony28 » November 18th, 2024, 1:55 am

iain wrote:
August 22nd, 2024, 12:20 pm
Congratulations on the 5k and best of luck with the record preparation. To your list of improvements I would add a mental element and plan as you will have a better idea of what to expect, confidence that you can deliver and a plan that works optimally for you. Most people find that no fueling or water is required for an HM, although hydrating and being adequately nourished before are of course important. Also, generating those powers I would recommend a serious fan!

I am sure that doing regular training will help, but am interested in whether you can continue the improvement on limited and deprioritised training as I would say that hard rowing training would have a significant impact. I remember comments from serious cyclists saying that the benefits of cycle training for erging are much less than erg training for cycling.
Great insights! Performance requires a mental plan, and confidence is undoubtedly important. You make an excellent point about fueling: it's important to eat healthily beforehand. In terms of training, it's interesting that even with less sessions, progress may be made; however, balancing rowing training could result in faster growth overall.

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