50:00.0 13,180m 1:53.8 237 1117 21 153
30:00.0 7,839m. 1:54.8 231 1095 20 150
r: 2:00 46m
20:00.0 5,341m. 1:52.3 247 1149 24 158
r: 2:00 11m
r57m
This was always more in hope than expectation. It was planned to be an old favourite 30r20; 20r24; 10r28, but I HDed after the 20 as I knew it wasn't a good idea.
HR was exactly as it should have been, so that's made me think it was definitely just an anomaly
What Training Have You Done Today?
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
10/21 - No training.
10/22 - Strength work. 1 round of 5 Pull-Ups, 10 Push-Ups, 10 Walking Lunges (per leg) w/ BW; 25 rounds of the same with 10kg weight vest. Just under 60:00 total. I would call this more of a "tempo-ish" or UT1 type of strength session. I could have pushed harder and either done more rounds in the same amount of time or had the same number of rounds done a bit faster but it was not as easy as some of the ones I did last week where the schemes were 3 / 6 / 6 (each).
10/23 - Aerobic work. 70 mins incline treadmill walk w/ 10kg weight vest; 10.5% incline (up .5%), 3.5mph (up .2mph). Definitely noticed a little bit more difficulty and a little higher HR but this was still very much an aerobic session with nothing but nasal breathing.
10/22 - Strength work. 1 round of 5 Pull-Ups, 10 Push-Ups, 10 Walking Lunges (per leg) w/ BW; 25 rounds of the same with 10kg weight vest. Just under 60:00 total. I would call this more of a "tempo-ish" or UT1 type of strength session. I could have pushed harder and either done more rounds in the same amount of time or had the same number of rounds done a bit faster but it was not as easy as some of the ones I did last week where the schemes were 3 / 6 / 6 (each).
10/23 - Aerobic work. 70 mins incline treadmill walk w/ 10kg weight vest; 10.5% incline (up .5%), 3.5mph (up .2mph). Definitely noticed a little bit more difficulty and a little higher HR but this was still very much an aerobic session with nothing but nasal breathing.
M, '85; 5'10" (1.78m), 175lbs (79kg)
Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
I do wonder whether we all feel the same. Ignoring that I have never experienced pain during a race (yes I have never been very quick, but this includes my 2k PB and several occassions when legs hardly moving in last 100 that is finished arms only - also experienced plenty of pain after 10+ mins, I just have a high pain threshold and believe I am good at producing endorphins with the build up to a race). Part of me thinks that the maximum performance is more linked to the duration of the TT than the distance. So what the best might be able to do for 5:40 is a higher intensity than my 7:16. Secondly the limitations are different. As a weak middle aged lightweight, I just haven't the muscle (and possibly other tissue) volume to accumulate the same oxygen debt. Yes a seven foot collosus will have a bigger CV system, but I suspect that the volume increases in muscle outstrip the area increases in lungs and the distances will also mean that it takes longer on average to recirculate blood. As a result it makes sense that my body just ceases up from repeated uses of limited muscle fibres with insignificant oxygen. I also think the experience for those with higher fast twitch proportions are very different. Yes these get closer with training, but people do seem to maintain a variation even in the same sport. The famous erg race where Cracknell goes Blue and Pincent beats him in the finish demonstrating the different physiological state they drove themselves to.Vcweiss346 wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2024, 6:25 pmI have done a bunch of full Ironman distance triathlons, 24 hour bike races, and other endurance stuff. Not very fast mind you, but none of it seems as brutally painful as an all out 2k for me. I would rather “suffer” at a lower intensity for 12 hours than the 6:45 minutes it takes me to punch the 2k out
So endorphins aside a 2k will be a more intense pain, but the ability to put aside a lower pain for longer will differ between people and they may well subjectively differ on which was "the worst".
56, lightweight in pace and by gravity. Currently training 3-4 times a week after a break to slowly regain the pitiful fitness I achieved a few years ago. Free Spirit, come join us http://www.freespiritsrowing.com/forum/
Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
8x500m/1:30r row. Rate limited to 30spm and DF increased by 10 to 125, which reduced my max HR and psychological effort slightly, and increased the lactic burn. 9.8 seconds slower than unlimited spm, and a DF of 115 last week, but 2.4 seconds faster than the unlimited session before that. Also I'm now a concept2 lightweight, barely.
This DF feels too high for me but I'll consider using this DF without a stroke rate limit next week (depending on my mental fortitude on the day).
I've only just noticed that for an interval session the logbook consistently records an incorrect much higher DF from what was set before the workout and from what was displayed by ergdata during the workout.
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Time Meters Pace Watts S/M HR
13:21.5 4,000m 1:40.1 1497 30 167
1:39.2 500m 1:39.2 1533 30 157
1:40.2 500m 1:40.2 1497 30 162
1:40.0 500m 1:40.0 1504 30 167
1:40.2 500m 1:40.2 1497 30 168
1:40.1 500m 1:40.1 1500 31 172
1:40.5 500m 1:40.5 1486 30 170
1:40.7 500m 1:40.7 1479 30 171
1:40.6 500m 1:40.6 1483 30 170
I've only just noticed that for an interval session the logbook consistently records an incorrect much higher DF from what was set before the workout and from what was displayed by ergdata during the workout.
45y M 176cm 75kg | 2k 6:46.5 | 5k 18:09.2 | 10k 37:02.6
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
Sticking with the 2k theme. Plan was to do the same as yesterday with the target of 1.47 but was rate restricted to r26. I think if I'd had the splits set to 500 the rate would have shown as r26 for all but did see a few r27.
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
7:07.5 2,000m 1:46.8 287 1286 26 145
0:53.5 250m 1:47.0 286 1283 26 130
0:53.5 500m 1:47.0 286 1283 27 141
0:53.5 750m 1:47.0 286 1283 26 145
0:53.5 1,000m 1:47.0 286 1283 27 147
0:53.5 1,250m 1:47.0 286 1283 26 149
0:53.5 1,500m 1:47.0 286 1283 27 150
0:53.5 1,750m 1:47.0 286 1283 26 150
0:53.1 2,000m 1:46.2 292 1305 27 150
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
7:07.5 2,000m 1:46.8 287 1286 26 145
0:53.5 250m 1:47.0 286 1283 26 130
0:53.5 500m 1:47.0 286 1283 27 141
0:53.5 750m 1:47.0 286 1283 26 145
0:53.5 1,000m 1:47.0 286 1283 27 147
0:53.5 1,250m 1:47.0 286 1283 26 149
0:53.5 1,500m 1:47.0 286 1283 27 150
0:53.5 1,750m 1:47.0 286 1283 26 150
0:53.1 2,000m 1:46.2 292 1305 27 150
67 6' 4" 108kg
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6
Re: What Training Have You Done Today?
Obviously, you used 47 strokes every 500m, 23 in the first 250, 24 in the second 250m, thus showing r26 and r27 alternated. Overall it sums up to 26.36 and is rounded down.nick rockliff wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2024, 12:12 pmSticking with the 2k theme. Plan was to do the same as yesterday with the target of 1.47 but was rate restricted to r26. I think if I'd had the splits set to 500 the rate would have shown as r26 for all but did see a few r27.
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
7:07.5 2,000m 1:46.8 287 1286 26 145
0:53.5 250m 1:47.0 286 1283 26 130
0:53.5 500m 1:47.0 286 1283 27 141
0:53.5 750m 1:47.0 286 1283 26 145
0:53.5 1,000m 1:47.0 286 1283 27 147
0:53.5 1,250m 1:47.0 286 1283 26 149
0:53.5 1,500m 1:47.0 286 1283 27 150
0:53.5 1,750m 1:47.0 286 1283 26 150
0:53.1 2,000m 1:46.2 292 1305 27 150
Well done and highly consistent as always
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log