What Training Have You Done Today?

[Dangerscouse]

1:09:41 18,000m 1:56.1 223 1068 24 139
8:45.6 2,250m. 1:56.8 220 1055 25 129
8:43.9 4,500m 1:56.4 222 1063 25 131
8:42.7 6,750m 1:56.1 223 1068 25 138
9:00.4 9,000m 2:00.0 202 995 24 136
8:40.9 11,250m 1:55.7 226 1076 25 143
8:37.7 13,500m 1:55.0 230 1091 25 143
8:36.6 15,750m 1:54.8 231 1096 25 148
8:33.2 18,000m 1:54.0 236 1112 25 151

Now I'm more confident that yesterday was just an anomaly. I kept the stroke rate at a mid level to even out the effort, and I had a loose plan of neg splits to see how my HR reacted.

I had to stop at just before halfway to secure a banging door (the window was open and it's quite stormy today), but it all went according to plan.

I was a bit late starting this as I was still reeling from the news that Chris Hoy's cancer is terminal. As he is one of my sporting idols, I'm shocked but it's helped put life into perspective

[Gustel]

Some steady rowing split into two parts.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
25:24.9 5,696m 2:13.8 146 802 22 126
12:00.0 2,729m 2:11.9 152 824 22 130
24:00.0 2,708m 2:12.9 149 812 23 129
25:24.9 260m 2:43.2 80 576 18 121

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
32:06.3 7,178m 2:14.1 145 798 21 131
7:00.0 1,557m 2:14.8 143 790 20 136
14:00.0 1,565m 2:14.1 145 798 21 131
21:00.0 1,579m 2:12.9 149 812 22 133
28:00.0 1,565m 2:14.1 145 798 22 131
32:06.3 913m 2:14.8 143 790 22 128

[deadlifting265]

20/10/24(Sun)

20x100m(1)

2km-5.38-1.24.5-R45-580w

Trained today instead of sat as I still don't have car, worked an 11hr shift and was still fatigued from fri evenings 30mins.

24w for one pip more quicker than last time so speed endurance moving in right direction.

Weights after.....

[deadlifting265]

Cheers, more in there though.

Wasn't an actual concerted PR attempt, RPE 7/8?

A sub 1:48 for the last ten minutes suggests there definitely is more there, 8300m would be really shifting.

For me personally I'm not trying to restrict the rate on the 30mins.

I would like(eventually) to hit min R24 for the 30, I prefer time, so maybe there will be a champs one day...

[deadlifting265]

Cheers, more in there though.

Wasn't an actual concerted PR attempt, RPE 7/8?

That's a very promising sign if that wasn't an all out effort

Cheers, held 1.50/51 until the lat ten and pushed which does skew the RPE, but there is more certainly.

[MPx]

So, this felt quite good until i saw my HR had climbed to 179. FYI, my assumed max is 176, and I've only seen that once (at the end of my FM PB), and I don't think I've ever got close to my max in any kind of interval; short or long.

Now I'm more confident that yesterday was just an anomaly.

Interesting this Stu. I've had exaclty the same type of anomaly happen this month - as far as I know for the first time ever. A couple of weeks back I decided to try the CTC, but it was poor choice of day - I was just too weary really, so I backed off during the 2k and reset my target to just get a score. Finished the 2k on my revised target with no issues and HR around 150 at the end. Did the 500 faster but HR only 149. Set off steady for the 1500 and all seemed well. My pace was firmly in my "grey zone" not sprint or TT territory. But toward the end I saw my HR climb and it was 172-175 for the last 400m. My max is 170!! and like you, its rarely seen (only once so far this year) - I get it if I'm managing to sprint at the end of a hard 5,6,or 10k TT. I do a "hard" session or two every week and know exactly what they feel like with HR ending in the 160s. This was nothing like that. I knew I was working, but it wasn't anything like "hard". Thought it really odd, but carried on - not the sort of thing I panic about! The 250 I did faster HR 148. The 1k faster than the 1500 but again not super hard. HR climbed to 170 in the first minute - although finished on 168!

So properly wierd given it felt like a challenging grey zone not hard session. Not had anything like that happen since despite doing: a hard Rugby Test MHR 162, and a hard Sprint Pyramid (250>1k>250) MHR 162 again. Admittedly both of those are made up of shorter reps. But my more steady state stuff has given my HR in the normal range for me - well sub 150. I suspect its more likely a mismeasurement than an actual HR anomaly. I'm sure it would have felt like it if my HR really was at those unprecedented elevated levels. Just not clear how the measurement could go wrong with no obvious spikes, drop outs, etc...

[jcross485]

Two big days of training, albeit without the erg. A bit over 9 hours this week total with all modalities factored in. I do not have a scale with me but based on the mirror test, I think my weight is dropping slightly again so I will monitor how I am feeling and how I am recovering before deciding to either stay the course or get calories back up.

10/19 (am): Run. 3k warm up, 10 x 100m (10% grade) with a slow walk back, 3k cool down. The 100's were progressive but average time was 18.6; grade adjusted pace in the 12's which seems a bit faster than I would think to be honest, I didn't feel like the effort I put out would be in the 12's. All things considered, a solid training run.

10/19 (pm): Lift. 40 rounds of 3 Pull-Ups, 6 Push-Ups, 6 Walking Lunges (per leg), 1 round of 5 / 10 / 10 (each) for 125 / 250 / 250 (each) in 60:00. All with 10kg weight vest. Fairly chill strength session.

10/20 (am): Incline Treadmill Walk. 75:00, 10% incline, 3.3mph, 10kg weight vest. Easy zone 1 type of work.

10/20 (pm): Lift. 30 rounds of 5 Pull-ups, 10 Push-ups, 10 Walking Lunges (per leg) with 10kg weight vest in 60:00. This was pretty close to PR pace for 100 / 200 / 200 (each) but I stretched it out for a full hour with 50% more volume. Pretty wrecked after this but as intended as I will not be training tomorrow due to work commitments.

[Dangerscouse]

1:26:47.9 21,097m 2:03.4 186 940 19 123
12:20.2 3,000m 2:03.3 186 941 20 122
12:20.6. 6,000m 2:03.4 186 940 20 119
12:19.9 9,000m. 2:03.3 187 942 20 126
12:21.2 12,000m 2:03.5 186 938 20 124
12:20.5 15,000m 2:03.4 186 940 20 125
12:20.2 18,000m 2:03.3 186 941 19 124
12:21.2 21,000m 2:03.5 186 938 20 127
0:24.2 21,097m 2:04.7 180 920 17 126

Just what I needed

[Sakly]

1:26:47.9 21,097m 2:03.4 186 940 19 123
12:20.2 3,000m 2:03.3 186 941 20 122
12:20.6. 6,000m 2:03.4 186 940 20 119
12:19.9 9,000m. 2:03.3 187 942 20 126
12:21.2 12,000m 2:03.5 186 938 20 124
12:20.5 15,000m 2:03.4 186 940 20 125
12:20.2 18,000m 2:03.3 186 941 19 124
12:21.2 21,000m 2:03.5 186 938 20 127
0:24.2 21,097m 2:04.7 180 920 17 126

Just what I needed

That looks very calm and steady. The anomaly should be out of your head already

[nick rockliff]

Started the week with a 40r18 steady away.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
40:00.0 9,377m 2:07.9 167 874 18 122
5:00.0 1,172m 2:07.9 167 874 18 113
10:00.0 1,172m 2:07.9 167 874 18 117
15:00.0 1,172m 2:07.9 167 874 18 120
20:00.0 1,172m 2:07.9 167 874 18 121
25:00.0 1,172m 2:07.9 167 874 18 125
30:00.0 1,172m 2:07.9 167 874 18 126
35:00.0 1,172m 2:07.9 167 874 18 129
40:00.0 1,172m 2:07.9 167 874 18 131

[Dangerscouse]

That looks very calm and steady. The anomaly should be out of your head already

Yes mate. Maybe it's actually a new max HR and not something to worry about after all. We'll see, but it's definitely calmed me down

[Dangerscouse]

Interesting this Stu. I've had exaclty the same type of anomaly happen this month - as far as I know for the first time ever. A couple of weeks back I decided to try the CTC, but it was poor choice of day - I was just too weary really, so I backed off during the 2k and reset my target to just get a score. Finished the 2k on my revised target with no issues and HR around 150 at the end. Did the 500 faster but HR only 149. Set off steady for the 1500 and all seemed well. My pace was firmly in my "grey zone" not sprint or TT territory. But toward the end I saw my HR climb and it was 172-175 for the last 400m. My max is 170!! and like you, its rarely seen (only once so far this year) - I get it if I'm managing to sprint at the end of a hard 5,6,or 10k TT. I do a "hard" session or two every week and know exactly what they feel like with HR ending in the 160s. This was nothing like that. I knew I was working, but it wasn't anything like "hard". Thought it really odd, but carried on - not the sort of thing I panic about! The 250 I did faster HR 148. The 1k faster than the 1500 but again not super hard. HR climbed to 170 in the first minute - although finished on 168!

So properly wierd given it felt like a challenging grey zone not hard session. Not had anything like that happen since despite doing: a hard Rugby Test MHR 162, and a hard Sprint Pyramid (250>1k>250) MHR 162 again. Admittedly both of those are made up of shorter reps. But my more steady state stuff has given my HR in the normal range for me - well sub 150. I suspect its more likely a mismeasurement than an actual HR anomaly. I'm sure it would have felt like it if my HR really was at those unprecedented elevated levels. Just not clear how the measurement could go wrong with no obvious spikes, drop outs, etc...

That is interesting. Maybe we're focusing too much on the data, so when we have an anomaly it can be over analysed? In reality, I'd never have known if I didn't have my HRM on. Too much info can sometimes be detrimental and old school intuition is all we need.

[Gustel]

Steady 10k. I felt very tired after work and needed 8k to wake up. Then I felt strong and finished the last 2k with a lower pace and lower s/m. The lack of daylight makes me very tired.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
44:31.1 10,016m 2:13.3 148 808 21 131
12:00.0 2,691m 2:13.7 146 803 21 125
24:00.0 2,688m 2:13.9 146 801 22 128
36:00.0 2,688m 2:13.9 146 801 22 131
44:31.1 1,951m 2:10.9 156 836 20 140

[KeithT]

Also just to be certain, do you think your hrm could have been having a bad hair day because of batteries or signal blip ? I know next to nothing about hrm, but just a thought off the top of my head.

Haha, possibly and it can't be discounted.

Something else I forgot to mention is that Dangerspouse had a heart condition about three years ago, that needed ablation to resolve it. It was so bad that the consultant told her afterwards he was really worried she might have a cardiac arrest if she wasn't careful. It started with an erratic HR but it's worth noting it was extremely erratic.

That was in the back of my mind yesterday but we'll see how this morning's session goes. It's looking more and more like an anomaly.

I also agree that my max HR isn't certain, but it's the fact that I never have anything like this kind of percentage for an interval session that has caught my attention, but there are always outlier moments

I have PVCs and I know they can cause some odd things like that but I usually don't wear HR monitor other than SS these days. I am guessing it's just a "one-off", anxious to see if that's the case for you.

[Vcweiss346]

Weekend of too much eat and too much drink. And no exercise. Muddled through an hour today which I’m happy about. Zero focus and no music equated to a gradual decline throughout the hour. But it was still an hour which was the only goal.


Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:00:00.6 14,741m 2:02.1 192 961 19
5:00.0 1,255m 1:59.5 205 1005 18
10:00.0 1,264m 1:58.6 209 1020 18
15:00.0 1,257m 1:59.3 206 1008 18
20:00.0 1,259m 1:59.1 207 1012 20
25:00.0 1,249m 2:00.0 202 995 19
30:00.0 1,251m 1:59.9 203 998 20
35:00.0 1,180m 2:07.1 170 886 19
40:00.0 1,223m 2:02.6 190 952 19
45:00.0 1,218m 2:03.1 187 944 20
50:00.0 1,212m 2:03.7 185 935 20
55:00.0 1,203m 2:04.6 181 921 20
1:00:00.0 1,170m 2:08.2 166 871 20
1:00:00.6 1m 5:00.0 13 344 0