Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

[Rowan McSheen]

Reading back with a touch of jealousy as I'm on a few days off ... full of industrial-strength antibiotics and a tetanus jab after being bitten by a dog

[Dangerscouse]

Reading back with a touch of jealousy as I'm on a few days off ... full of industrial-strength antibiotics and a tetanus jab after being bitten by a dog

Blimey. As a dog owner, I'm really sorry to hear that. We've got a staffie cross, and people can look terrified of her, but she's a very gentle soul...unless you're a cat.

Hopefully you're back training again soon

[winniewinser]

Reading back with a touch of jealousy as I'm on a few days off ... full of industrial-strength antibiotics and a tetanus jab after being bitten by a dog

... blimey...hope you heal soon

Also a dog owner but having been bitten by a dog as a child I still have fear.

[winniewinser]

BPP W19S3 3x10'/2'r...dodged the intervals today after the hard 10k yesterday.

30:00.0 7,367m 2:02.1 192 960 22
10:00.0 2,466m 2:01.6 194 969 22
10:00.0 2,453m 2:02.2 191 958 22
10:00.0 2,449m 2:02.4 190 955 22

Day off tomorrow before I attack 5x800m

[DJ1972]

Looking back at Week 1 - Session 2 - 6x500 m



and yesterday Week 2 - Session 2 - 4x750 m



Both 4 min warm up + 2 min resting prior to series.

I understand that HR may fluctuate. Conditions were the same in my opinion, with even SR rate slightly higher and longer interval . So I wonder if only 1 week BPP can result in such improvement. Only positive !

Post by iain » October 1st, 2024, 11:23 am

However HR does fluctuate depending on life factors, temperature etc. so you may find that this pace is not always appropriate, but definitely a good ballpark so long as you recover quickly enough for the next session.

[Dangerscouse]

I understand that HR may fluctuate. Conditions were the same in my opinion, with even SR rate slightly higher and longer interval . So I wonder if only 1 week BPP can result in such improvement. Only positive !

I'd be very surprised if your HR dropped that much after one week. One of those sessions HR readings isn't reliable imo, but never let the truth get in the way of a confidence boost

[iain]

Agree with Stu. Are you using an HR belt as sometimes watches can under record. You should definitely find these more challenging, how did you feel during them, were you struggling to maintain the pace towards the end of the last couple on intervals?

[DJ1972]

Unread post by iain » October 2nd, 2024, 12:28 pm

Agree with Stu. Are you using an HR belt as sometimes watches can under record. You should definitely find these more challenging, how did you feel during them, were you struggling to maintain the pace towards the end of the last couple on intervals?

Using Polar H9 from the start. Yesterday was more challenging at the end of each interval (last 1 min) and I tried to better my technique to alleviate the challenge. Week 1 6x500m was a harder than Week 2 4x750m.

Week 1 may have been an erratic recording due to unknown reasons and I will discard it from my progression.

[Rowan McSheen]

After a couple of days of being off-colour today I felt good so back in the saddle.

Week 5/3 -- 7000m UT1 (120-130 bpm)



The W4 6500 UT1 workout came in at 2:12.4 so this was a bit of a drop in pace, with hr drift from 4000m. Maybe not firing on all cylinders then. But I expect UT1 pace to settle at about 2:15 at 10000m so not too disconcerted.

[Jimmies]

On week 8 now but I did the intervals first (on Monday)as I wasn't feeling up for the longer row.... yesterday was 8.1 and I really just went really easy... probably a bit too easy so I added a few extra metres and also had a small session on the bikeerg too.

I'm finding when I go to 2:15/500 I feel like I lose alot of my strength and will struggle to maintain it even though I don't feel like I'm doing too much physically......I just need to get fitter I think

I'm in the US from Sunday for a week so I'm really praying that my hotel has a rower. Also off to the US for a month from start of November and I'm worried this will also cause me rowing challenges. I may just have to keep my fitness levels doing other things and pick it back up again in December

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
45:21.4 9,024m 2:30.7 102 651 18

5:00.0 979m 2:33.2 97 634 19
10:00.0 966m 2:35.2 93 621 18
15:00.0 979m 2:33.2 97 634 17
20:00.0 972m 2:34.3 95 627 17
25:00.0 978m 2:33.3 97 633 18
30:00.0 991m 2:31.3 101 647 17
35:00.0 1,002m 2:29.7 104 659 17
40:00.0 990m 2:31.5 101 646 18
45:00.0 1,078m 2:19.1 130 747 22
45:21.4 88m 2:01.5 195 970 24

[winniewinser]

On week 8 now but I did the intervals first (on Monday)as I wasn't feeling up for the longer row.... yesterday was 8.1 and I really just went really easy... probably a bit too easy so I added a few extra metres and also had a small session on the bikeerg too.

I'm finding when I go to 2:15/500 I feel like I lose alot of my strength and will struggle to maintain it even though I don't feel like I'm doing too much physically......I just need to get fitter I think

I'm in the US from Sunday for a week so I'm really praying that my hotel has a rower. Also off to the US for a month from start of November and I'm worried this will also cause me rowing challenges. I may just have to keep my fitness levels doing other things and pick it back up again in December

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
45:21.4 9,024m 2:30.7 102 651 18

5:00.0 979m 2:33.2 97 634 19
10:00.0 966m 2:35.2 93 621 18
15:00.0 979m 2:33.2 97 634 17
20:00.0 972m 2:34.3 95 627 17
25:00.0 978m 2:33.3 97 633 18
30:00.0 991m 2:31.3 101 647 17
35:00.0 1,002m 2:29.7 104 659 17
40:00.0 990m 2:31.5 101 646 18
45:00.0 1,078m 2:19.1 130 747 22
45:21.4 88m 2:01.5 195 970 24

Maybe you will be able to find a local gym with a C2....some US members on here may be able to assist you find something.

Try this https://www.concept2.com/erg-finder

I have the same issues when away next year but found a hotel with a Technogym Rower at least. I've used them before and pace is similar to the C2 but not as accurate. The user interface is terrible though.

[iain]

I'm finding when I go to 2:15/500 I feel like I lose alot of my strength and will struggle to maintain it even though I don't feel like I'm doing too much physically......I just need to get fitter I think

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
45:21.4 9,024m 2:30.7 102 651 18

There is a huge difference between 2:15 pace and 2:30 (over 1/3 more watts). Pete used to say that you should finish SS rows feeling that you could repeat them immediately if you had to, they are intended to allow recovery (although the BPP accepts that many will find the distance hard and so eases off with only gentle intervals in the early weeks, several weeks in these should have become much less taxing). From what you say you should not be trying to hold 2:15 on these, i would suggest maybe 2:25 as a compromise and see how you feel.

[alex9026]

I have the same issues when away next year but found a hotel with a Technogym Rower at least. I've used them before and pace is similar to the C2 but not as accurate. The user interface is terrible though.

My work gym has a Stairmaster, it's absolute garbage. Looks identical to a Concept, with different stickers plastered on. I stopped using it when I pulled a 6 minute 2k at a moderate type effort...

[Jimmies]

Thanks iain

2:30 really does feel easy - I was hardly sweating until I went for it abit more in the last 500m....also I haven't been warming up before a row so maybe I should also start incorporating 5 min of easy rowing before I start the session

[winniewinser]

I have the same issues when away next year but found a hotel with a Technogym Rower at least. I've used them before and pace is similar to the C2 but not as accurate. The user interface is terrible though.

My work gym has a Stairmaster, it's absolute garbage. Looks identical to a Concept, with different stickers plastered on. I stopped using it when I pulled a 6 minute 2k at a moderate type effort...

For a week I'll have to live with the Technogym