What Training Have You Done Today?

General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
alex9026
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by alex9026 » July 27th, 2024, 10:33 am

1:12:37.9 18,000m 2:01.0 197 979 20
14:38.7 3,600m. 2:02.0 193 962 21
14:37.5 7,200m 2:01.8 193 965 20
14:33.6 10,800m 2:01.3 196 974 20
14:31.1 14,400m 2:00.9 198 980. 20
14:17.1 18,000m 1:59.0 207 1014 21

Little to no calf/foot numbness today, loosened the foot straps, paying more attention to my form. Being a tad slower maybe helped, too (and is what I should be pacing longer pieces at if doing them regularly).
34 6'2 89kg
1min 368 500m 1:26 2k 6:24 5k 17:27

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Sakly » July 27th, 2024, 11:38 am

Some bodyweight stuff at the beach B)
3 sets 3x 20 walking lunges +10 squats in a row
4x 10 broad jumps in the sand
3 sets wide pullups
3 sets deficit pike pushups
3 sets Trx horizontal rows
3 sets ring pushups
3 sets strict toes to bar
All in slightly under an hour, really relaxed :)
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » July 27th, 2024, 2:40 pm

alex9026 wrote:
July 27th, 2024, 10:33 am
Little to no calf/foot numbness today, loosened the foot straps, paying more attention to my form.
That's good news. Do you think it was the straps that was the issue? I have slight issues if I tie my laces too tightly, but I've paid more attention to getting the right size erging shoes. Sometimes even half a size can make a difference.
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by deadlifting265 » July 27th, 2024, 3:08 pm

27/7/24(Sat)

16km super low drag(60)-203w-R20

Put a shirt on top of the flywheel to lower the drag but it fell off with 6.5km to go, so the last 6.5km at df77.

Various push-ups after.......

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by alex9026 » July 27th, 2024, 4:53 pm

Dangerscouse wrote:
July 27th, 2024, 2:40 pm
That's good news. Do you think it was the straps that was the issue? I have slight issues if I tie my laces too tightly, but I've paid more attention to getting the right size erging shoes. Sometimes even half a size can make a difference.
It could be my shoes, which I've never worn particularly tight, though my right side is absolutely fine regardless. I'm using different shoes from when I first started rowing in December, which have a very solid platform (Nike metcon) because I wanted an all round gym shoe. Maybe the soul is too stiff.

I'll see how I fare with the loose straps over the coming weeks on my longer pieces. I think I need to start paying attention to soft tissue work, especially around my calves which are notorious for getting tight. I used to do it daily in my running days.

What shoes do you erg in? I'd like to push the longer distances, but this has definitely put that ambition on hold.
34 6'2 89kg
1min 368 500m 1:26 2k 6:24 5k 17:27

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by MPx » July 27th, 2024, 6:17 pm

alex9026 wrote:
July 27th, 2024, 4:53 pm
I'm using different shoes from when I first started rowing in December, which have a very solid platform (Nike metcon) because I wanted an all round gym shoe. Maybe the soul is too stiff.
I guess it could be too stiff with any "creases" digging into your foot. But you certainly dont want any gym shoe with a soft spongey sole. I use Merril Vapour Gloves - just a thin layer of rubber and get a really solid contact with the foot plate. Anything that "absorbs impact" a la running shoes will just leak power on the erg.
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by jcross485 » July 27th, 2024, 7:06 pm

7/27 - Strength work. Pretty abbreviated session as I did not get to train until the afternoon; garage was hot and we had some air quality issues with wildfire smoke as well. Got my warm up and main strength movement done and called it there. I am traveling the next few days for work and will have access to a pretty well equipped gym for a few days so should be able to get all of my training in as planned with a lot of pull ups, push ups, and walking lunges so not terribly upset with passing on them today.

Warmup: Empty barbell; 3 rounds, 10 reps each - Standing Press, Barbell Row, SLDL/RDL

1.5" Deficit Deadlift: 135 x 5 x 3 sets, 205 x 5, 255 x 5 x 5 sets

10 reps band dislocations after each deadlift set for shoulder mobility
M, '85; 5'10" (1.78m), 175lbs (79kg)

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » July 28th, 2024, 3:59 am

alex9026 wrote:
July 27th, 2024, 4:53 pm
What shoes do you erg in? I'd like to push the longer distances, but this has definitely put that ambition on hold.
I also use Metcons, but I prefer the Metcon 4s. I wonder if stretching will help? I think that the shoes and straps will be an issue, but it also sounds a bit more deep rooted than just that.
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by alex9026 » July 28th, 2024, 10:06 am

MPx wrote:
July 27th, 2024, 6:17 pm
I guess it could be too stiff with any "creases" digging into your foot. But you certainly dont want any gym shoe with a soft spongey sole. I use Merril Vapour Gloves - just a thin layer of rubber and get a really solid contact with the foot plate. Anything that "absorbs impact" a la running shoes will just leak power on the erg.
For me, they cut quite high at my ankles, but yes, I absolutely wouldn't try a "soft" shoe. I'm familiar with Merril gloves, may have to consider.
Dangerscouse wrote:
July 28th, 2024, 3:59 am
I also use Metcons, but I prefer the Metcon 4s. I wonder if stretching will help? I think that the shoes and straps will be an issue, but it also sounds a bit more deep rooted than just that.
Probably worth noting I work in ankle high boots, so they won't be doing my ankle mobility any good. Should definitely start a regular stretching routine.
34 6'2 89kg
1min 368 500m 1:26 2k 6:24 5k 17:27

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by alex9026 » July 28th, 2024, 10:10 am

27:43.3 8,000m 1:43.9 312 1372 27
6:57.7 2,000m 1:44.4 307 1357 27
r: 5:00 296m
6:56.6 2,000m 1:44.1 310 1366 27
r: 5:00 152m
6:56.9 2,000m 1:44.2 309 1363 27
r: 5:00 149m
6:52.1 2,000m 1:43.0 320 1401 28
r: 5:00 73m

I HD'd on this session last time out, at 1:47/1:48, so really pleased with this. I nearly switched it in favour of going back to bed as I'm between night shifts, but glad I got it in now.
34 6'2 89kg
1min 368 500m 1:26 2k 6:24 5k 17:27

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by deadlifting265 » July 28th, 2024, 12:49 pm

alex9026 wrote:
July 28th, 2024, 10:10 am
27:43.3 8,000m 1:43.9 312 1372 27
6:57.7 2,000m 1:44.4 307 1357 27
r: 5:00 296m
6:56.6 2,000m 1:44.1 310 1366 27
r: 5:00 152m
6:56.9 2,000m 1:44.2 309 1363 27
r: 5:00 149m
6:52.1 2,000m 1:43.0 320 1401 28
r: 5:00 73m

I HD'd on this session last time out, at 1:47/1:48, so really pleased with this. I nearly switched it in favour of going back to bed as I'm between night shifts, but glad I got it in now.
Should be good for comfortably under 17.30 for 5km based on this!

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by jcross485 » July 28th, 2024, 1:44 pm

7/28 - Row/Run Brick.

5 x 2k row / 1k run (~3:00 rest). The rest periods show at 8:00 but I set that between intervals so I could knock out the 1k run. With the short transition period, the rests worked out to be around 3:00 or so.

A bit of a harder session before heading out of town for work this afternoon for the next few days. Row portions were solid; I would say UT1 type effort. Run portions felt pretty good too; legs were heavy and sluggish but the pace was decent; I would say more threshold type effort.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
41:30.9 10,000m 2:04.5 181 923 19 150
22:30 5,000m 4:30/k

4:09.4 1,000m 2:04.7 180 921 19 133
4:09.4 1,000m 2:04.7 180 921 19 142
4:34.0
r: 8:00 63m
4:09.3 1,000m 2:04.6 181 921 19 145
4:09.1 1,000m 2:04.5 181 923 19 152

r: 8:00 50m
4:09.1 1,000m 2:04.5 181 923 19 151
4:09.0 1,000m 2:04.5 181 924 19 157

r: 8:00 53m
4:09.1 1,000m 2:04.5 181 923 19 154
4:08.9 1,000m 2:04.4 182 924 19 159

r: 8:00 51m
4:09.0 1,000m 2:04.5 181 924 19 156
4:08.8 1,000m 2:04.4 182 925 19 158

r217m
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by jcross485 » July 28th, 2024, 1:47 pm

7/28 - Row/Run Brick.

5 x 2k row / 1k run (~3:00 rest). The rest periods show at 8:00 but I set that between intervals so I could knock out the 1k run. With the short transition period, the rests worked out to be around 3:00 or so.

A bit of a harder session before heading out of town for work this afternoon for the next few days. Row portions were solid; I would say UT1 type effort especially as the session went on and I got a bit of fatigue in the legs from the run. Run portions felt pretty good too; legs were heavy and sluggish but the pace was decent all things considered. I would say more threshold type effort based upon RPE. Not a bad session overall and scratched the running itch with some quality without beating up my body too much with volume.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
41:30.9 10,000m 2:04.5 181 923 19 150
22:30 5,000m 4:30/k

4:09.4 1,000m 2:04.7 180 921 19 133
4:09.4 1,000m 2:04.7 180 921 19 142
4:34/k 1,000m
r: 8:00 63m

4:09.3 1,000m 2:04.6 181 921 19 145
4:09.1 1,000m 2:04.5 181 923 19 152
4:31/k 1,000m
r: 8:00 50m

4:09.1 1,000m 2:04.5 181 923 19 151
4:09.0 1,000m 2:04.5 181 924 19 154
4:31/k 1,000m
r: 8:00 53m

4:09.1 1,000m 2:04.5 181 923 19 154
4:08.9 1,000m 2:04.4 182 924 19 157
4:29/k 1,000m
r: 8:00 51m

4:09.0 1,000m 2:04.5 181 924 19 156
4:08.8 1,000m 2:04.4 182 925 19 158
4:25/k 1,000m
r217m
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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by dabatey » July 28th, 2024, 3:25 pm

C2 Training Guide V2 Original Plan Preparation phase Hard Week
UT1 x 30min...2.12/500@24spm

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
30:00.0 6,982m 2:08.9 163 862 24 159
6:00.0 1,398m 2:08.7 164 864 24 147
12:00.0 1,403m 2:08.2 166 870 24 155
18:00.0 1,399m 2:08.6 164 865 24 160
24:00.0 1,390m 2:09.4 161 854 24 165
30:00.0 1,392m 2:09.3 162 857 24 168

Was supposed to do this yesterday but just wasn't feeling it and swapped round with Sunday rest day and had a few beers last night instead. Started a bit faster than I intended (was going to go for just under 2.10) and just tried to keep it going. About 8 minutes in I was wondering how on earth I could ever keep the pace up so a bit like a 2k TT in that respect. Dropped off a little in the last ten minutes. I was pleased to see 23spm appear on the screen far more than 25spm which only blipped on a few occasions. Very close to throwing up at the end which I take as a sign I went about as hard as I could.
Age 52....Weight 61 Kg....
Row 26 Aug 21 to Mar 22. Cycle Mar 22 to Jun 24. Now mixing the 2.
2K 8.02.3 (23 Oct 21)...7.37.0(15 Mar 22)
5K 22.14 (2 Oct 21)
Resting HR 45 (was 48 in 2021)....Max HR (Seen) 182 [185 cycling]

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Re: What Training Have You Done Today?

Post by Dangerscouse » July 28th, 2024, 5:01 pm

dabatey wrote:
July 28th, 2024, 3:25 pm
Very close to throwing up at the end which I take as a sign I went about as hard as I could.
Wow, that's a very big sign of extreme effort. Well done.
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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