New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by DavidA » June 24th, 2024, 3:19 pm

HornetMaX wrote:
June 23rd, 2024, 4:30 pm
2K time. As always, went in not expecting too much, but my recent 500m PB (5 days ago, 1:35.3 down from 1:36.6) was encouraging.

Went pretty well, gain aligned to the 500m: 7:18.6 from 7:24.2.

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Time 	Meters 	Pace 	Watts 	Cal/Hr 	S/M 	HR
7:18.6 	2,000m 	1:49.6 	265 	1213 	29 	178
1:48.7 	500m 	1:48.7 	273 	1237 	30 	170
1:48.3 	1,000m 	1:48.3 	276 	1248 	30 	179
1:50.0 	1,500m 	1:50.0 	263 	1205 	30 	181
1:51.6 	2,000m 	1:51.6 	252 	1166 	29 	184
So the post-TT consolation pizza became a post-PB celebration one :)
Congratulations!
Very nice improvement.
So I hope it was also BP (best pizza)

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by DavidA » June 24th, 2024, 3:21 pm

ahooton wrote:
June 24th, 2024, 11:38 am
Away for work this week and the Hilton I’m in has a lovely new concept 2 that was winking at me. Was going to have a go at pb for 5k. But then decided to scratch the 10k itch that been bugging me lately. Glad I did as I took 30 of seconds off it. 37:13. Really happy with that as I put everything into the machine and it was definitely best effort.
That's great!
A huge improvement in your PB, and finding a C2 at the hotel.

David
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Sakly » June 24th, 2024, 4:40 pm

After I realized the CTC yesterday would have been a -0.7s 500m PB looking into the stroke data, I went for a random 1min today during gym session warmup B)
I got a 3m improvement, despite being hit hard by yesterday's training.
Knowing the 500m time from stroke data, I'm tempted to go for a 500 soon :lol:

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M
1:00.0	358m	1:23.7	595	2346	44
0:20.0	121m	1:22.6	620	2433	45
0:40.0	120m	1:23.3	605	2381	42
1:00.0	117m	1:25.4	561	2229	45
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by HornetMaX » June 24th, 2024, 5:20 pm

ahooton wrote:
June 24th, 2024, 3:12 pm
Haha, great stuff. Hope it was a huge one!
Probably oversized, now that I've seen your 10K :)
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » June 25th, 2024, 1:21 am

Sakly wrote:
June 24th, 2024, 4:40 pm
After I realized the CTC yesterday would have been a -0.7s 500m PB looking into the stroke data, I went for a random 1min today during gym session warmup B)
I got a 3m improvement, despite being hit hard by yesterday's training.
Knowing the 500m time from stroke data, I'm tempted to go for a 500 soon :lol:

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M
1:00.0	358m	1:23.7	595	2346	44
0:20.0	121m	1:22.6	620	2433	45
0:40.0	120m	1:23.3	605	2381	42
1:00.0	117m	1:25.4	561	2229	45
You've taken over from Kerry in regularly setting new PBs. This is a great result Sascha, without too much fade
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Tandstad » June 25th, 2024, 2:15 am

Sakly wrote:
June 24th, 2024, 4:40 pm
After I realized the CTC yesterday would have been a -0.7s 500m PB looking into the stroke data, I went for a random 1min today during gym session warmup B)
I got a 3m improvement, despite being hit hard by yesterday's training.
Knowing the 500m time from stroke data, I'm tempted to go for a 500 soon :lol:

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M
1:00.0	358m	1:23.7	595	2346	44
0:20.0	121m	1:22.6	620	2433	45
0:40.0	120m	1:23.3	605	2381	42
1:00.0	117m	1:25.4	561	2229	45
That is a very strong minute Sascha, great job :) Let's see that 500 soon while you are on a good roll! :D
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1K: 2:59(2020), 2K: 6:16(2020), 5K: 16:44(2020), 10K: 34:44(2020), 30min: 8743m(2020), 30r20: 8416(2020), 60min: 16851(2021) HM: 1:16:19(2020)

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Sakly » June 25th, 2024, 2:35 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
June 25th, 2024, 1:21 am
You've taken over from Kerry in regularly setting new PBs. This is a great result Sascha, without too much fade
Not posting much new PBs recently, Kerry is way ahead in doing so :P
The minute is exactly the point of time where I start to fade hard for the CTC, so this let me think I should try the minute to cut off the fade :lol:
Tandstad wrote:
June 25th, 2024, 2:15 am
That is a very strong minute Sascha, great job :) Let's see that 500 soon while you are on a good roll! :D
Thx!
Current training is working well. This year my allergies are very mild and not really bothering me at all, despite not taking any medication yet.
Need to update some PBs, now the 500 is on the list as well B)
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by hikeplusrow » June 25th, 2024, 3:34 pm

DavidA wrote:
June 17th, 2024, 2:51 pm
hikeplusrow wrote:
June 12th, 2024, 4:55 am
Hi, it's the teetotaller here! New HM PB this morning - 1:38:49.5 (35 second improvement). Over the moon!
Woo Hoo!
Congratulations!
Big improvement.

David
Thanks David, I've only just spotted this! I think there's still plenty of room for improvement in the HM, and I've got another attempt pencilled in for July/August.

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by p_b82 » June 28th, 2024, 12:48 pm

been very quiet recently - far too many HD's and not enough mental resilience/trying to bite off too much.

I've been wanting to do a 2:05/180W 30min; but just not got it in the tank currently, so this one was paced at 2:06.5 to just get it done.

Based on HR and effort, this was probably 99% max today - maybe could have gone a little earlier at the end.

PB by 55m - set 7 months ago (almost to the day).

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
30:00.0 7,132m 2:06.1 174 899 23 177
5:00.0 1,187m 2:06.3 173 896 25 161
10:00.0 1,187m 2:06.3 173 896 24 173
15:00.0 1,188m 2:06.2 174 898 24 179
20:00.0 1,186m 2:06.4 173 895 24 180
25:00.0 1,183m 2:06.7 172 890 23 184
30:00.0 1,201m 2:04.8 180 918 23 187
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PB's
'23: 6k=25:23.5, HM=1:36:08.0, 60'=13,702m
'24: 500m=1:37.7, 2k=7:44.80, 5k=20:42.9, 10k=42:13.1, FM=3:18:35.4, 30'=7,132m
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » June 28th, 2024, 2:14 pm

p_b82 wrote:
June 28th, 2024, 12:48 pm
been very quiet recently - far too many HD's and not enough mental resilience/trying to bite off too much.

I've been wanting to do a 2:05/180W 30min; but just not got it in the tank currently, so this one was paced at 2:06.5 to just get it done.

Based on HR and effort, this was probably 99% max today - maybe could have gone a little earlier at the end.

PB by 55m - set 7 months ago (almost to the day).

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
30:00.0 7,132m 2:06.1 174 899 23 177
5:00.0 1,187m 2:06.3 173 896 25 161
10:00.0 1,187m 2:06.3 173 896 24 173
15:00.0 1,188m 2:06.2 174 898 24 179
20:00.0 1,186m 2:06.4 173 895 24 180
25:00.0 1,183m 2:06.7 172 890 23 184
30:00.0 1,201m 2:04.8 180 918 23 187
That's a great reaction to too many HDs, and that's a helluva effort at 99% and exactly what a PB needs
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Kerry1960 » June 28th, 2024, 2:20 pm

p_b82 wrote:
June 28th, 2024, 12:48 pm
been very quiet recently - far too many HD's and not enough mental resilience/trying to bite off too much.

I've been wanting to do a 2:05/180W 30min; but just not got it in the tank currently, so this one was paced at 2:06.5 to just get it done.

Based on HR and effort, this was probably 99% max today - maybe could have gone a little earlier at the end.

PB by 55m - set 7 months ago (almost to the day).

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
30:00.0 7,132m 2:06.1 174 899 23 177
5:00.0 1,187m 2:06.3 173 896 25 161
10:00.0 1,187m 2:06.3 173 896 24 173
15:00.0 1,188m 2:06.2 174 898 24 179
20:00.0 1,186m 2:06.4 173 895 24 180
25:00.0 1,183m 2:06.7 172 890 23 184
30:00.0 1,201m 2:04.8 180 918 23 187
Nice row Peter and great to see you back on the forum. Personally I find mental resilience a bit tougher in the summer months when it's so blooming humid.
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First erg Jan 2023
PBs 500m 1:34.4, 1k 3:30.9, 2k 7:32.3
5k 20:09, 6k 24:30, 30m 7310m, 30r20 7133m

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by HornetMaX » June 28th, 2024, 2:35 pm

p_b82 wrote:
June 28th, 2024, 12:48 pm
far too many HD's and not enough mental resilience/trying to bite off too much.
Happens to me too. Just did a 2K PB and a 500m PB the week after, but today I HD a 1K TT, even if I'm pretty sure I can improve my 1K PB at the moment.

1-2 days of rest, some good sleep and you give it another go.
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by p_b82 » June 29th, 2024, 6:57 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
June 28th, 2024, 2:14 pm
That's a great reaction to too many HDs, and that's a helluva effort at 99% and exactly what a PB needs
Kerry1960 wrote:
June 28th, 2024, 2:20 pm
Nice row Peter and great to see you back on the forum. Personally I find mental resilience a bit tougher in the summer months when it's so blooming humid.
HornetMaX wrote:
June 28th, 2024, 2:35 pm
Happens to me too. Just did a 2K PB and a 500m PB the week after, but today I HD a 1K TT, even if I'm pretty sure I can improve my 1K PB at the moment.

1-2 days of rest, some good sleep and you give it another go.
Thanks folks.

I don't think that recently having hives, another allergic reaction to a insect bite, or replacing the flooring (carpet with vinyl tiles - with associated furniture moving + erg now setup in a "better" room) & being away for a long weekend has helped my capabilities on the erg the past 6 weeks or so.

The frustration is that this effort is only 0.5s per split slower than a 10k I did straight after I'd recovered from the FM; I feel there should be more there, but there isn't, based on my numerous HD's when attempting this since the end of April.

I think the FM discomfort is so very different I've forgotten how to push through & manage the oxygen debt parts of the pain cave mentally.
M 6'4 born:'82
PB's
'23: 6k=25:23.5, HM=1:36:08.0, 60'=13,702m
'24: 500m=1:37.7, 2k=7:44.80, 5k=20:42.9, 10k=42:13.1, FM=3:18:35.4, 30'=7,132m
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » June 29th, 2024, 7:20 am

p_b82 wrote:
June 29th, 2024, 6:57 am
Thanks folks.

I don't think that recently having hives, another allergic reaction to a insect bite, or replacing the flooring (carpet with vinyl tiles - with associated furniture moving + erg now setup in a "better" room) & being away for a long weekend has helped my capabilities on the erg the past 6 weeks or so.

The frustration is that this effort is only 0.5s per split slower than a 10k I did straight after I'd recovered from the FM; I feel there should be more there, but there isn't, based on my numerous HD's when attempting this since the end of April.

I think the FM discomfort is so very different I've forgotten how to push through & manage the oxygen debt parts of the pain cave mentally.
I've got three words for you Peter: context, context and context

Your FM training was targeted and incremental, building towards a significant goal so your focus was 'all in'. Now, you've lost that focus (I struggled for a few months after my 12hr session) it can all too easily become your enemy. Days when you pushed through because you had to, subtly become days you fade away or HD because you've already done the hard sessions so surely you deserve a bit of respite and it slowly, unknowingly, can become a habit.

Having allergies and lack of training will be a double whammy as your fitness is something your body doesn't need when your immune system is in overdrive, so that will be lost quicker than the usual already frighteningly fast pace.

The good news is, you've identified it and are frustrated by it. Now, the hard work of the rebuild begins, which will be tough, but always remind yourself you don't want it to be easy, as easy won't make it worthwhile.

Find a new focus, but try and keep it general or wider than just improving a specific distance / time, otherwise you might end up in the same rut. I'd recommend aiming for something longer as you'll get a bit more crossover benefits from it for the shorter sharper stuff too, and you can work your way down with a strong base of longer sessions under your belt (far more manageable than working up).
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by HornetMaX » June 29th, 2024, 8:21 am

p_b82 wrote:
June 29th, 2024, 6:57 am
I think the FM discomfort is so very different I've forgotten how to push through & manage the oxygen debt parts of the pain cave mentally.
After completing a FM training cycle (11 weeks) I had hopes to improve my shorter stuff too. I did improve my HM, but not the 500m/1K/2K. It took me another 6-7 weeks of 2K-focused training to improve my 500m & 2K (1K tomorrow, hopefully).

Not sure about how much of this is physiological and how much is mental, but yeah, it's a different kind of pain and I seem to need to practice it, to get accustomed to it.

Kind of sessions that worked for me (4 sessions per week): 8x 500m+3R @ 2KP-4s or 4x 1000m+6R @ 2KP, 3x 1500m+7R @ 2KP, plus one slower but challenging session (e.g.4x (9' @ 2KP+8s +6' @ 2KP+17s +4R) and one long and steady session (like 3x30' zone 2).
RowErg and SkiErg are only physical activities I typically do (no strength work or whatever) and that may be an issue for me as a LW: so during that cycle I tried to do 1000 free body squats at the end of each session. Maybe it helped too.
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