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[KeithT]

Great work on HM Justin, you’ll be under 1:16 when winter comes. I’ve knocked distance work on the head for the summer, I just can’t cope with it. Going to push interval training hard with a couple of very sedate 1 hour rows at the weekends to keep my hand in.

Just posted PB for 2k at 6:44. I had more in the tank but even though I did a strong 25 minute warm up, I still felt wobbly for first 600-700 metres and just couldn’t settle on the 1:40 pace. After this though I got into the zone and managed the rest of the piece at 1:39 quite comfortably. Any tips on warm ups guys because I just can’t get the warm up for 2 k quite right.

I have tried shorter and longer warm-ups and for me I have found physically a little longer to be better but mentally I like the shorter. I know that sounds weird but when I do longer warmups I fight the fear of tiring myself out some even if slow. However, physically once I actually start into the test the longer warm-ups seem to have me more ready to go. I even had a good result before with just a moderate paced 2K as the only warm-up but I don't think it was ideal.

[ahooton]

Smashing PB bro! Based on this I imagine you’re planning to destroy your other PBs soon?!

Thanks mate.
Looking forward to the rowlympics in August for sure!

[Dangerscouse]

I have tried shorter and longer warm-ups and for me I have found physically a little longer to be better but mentally I like the shorter. I know that sounds weird but when I do longer warmups I fight the fear of tiring myself out some even if slow. However, physically once I actually start into the test the longer warm-ups seem to have me more ready to go.

I have similar issues. I don't like the thought of long warm-ups, but I do seem to benefit from them. I consistently become really unsure of what's the best option, and sometimes I decide to not warm up at all.

[ahooton]

Cheers all. Think I’ll stick with what I’ve been doing and reduce the rest time. Longer warm ups most definitely work for me. Probably was a bit of erg fear today, it had been on my mind for a few days and was chomping at the bit for it!

[HornetMaX]

Yay, did my 2nd SkiErg HM: I don't really train on it (I use it only for warm-up/col-down and steady state sessions), but went from 1:33:27 to 1:32:41. Nothing to ring home about and not even a big improvement, especially knowing that my 1st one I was really cruising, but yeah, been training hard the day before so I'll take that

Probably, the most interesting thing is that after the HM, while showering I had cramps in my right upper abs muscle: that was weird and even visually impressive (like a chestbuster trying to pop out) and it probably even tops the shin cramps I had once on the rower.

Thanks Concept2 for letting me have cramps where I didn't think cramps were possible

[DavidA]

Yay, did my 2nd SkiErg HM: I don't really train on it (I use it only for warm-up/col-down and steady state sessions), but went from 1:33:27 to 1:32:41. Nothing to ring home about and not even a big improvement, especially knowing that my 1st one I was really cruising, but yeah, been training hard the day before so I'll take that

Probably, the most interesting thing is that after the HM, while showering I had cramps in my right upper abs muscle: that was weird and even visually impressive (like a chestbuster trying to pop out) and it probably even tops the shin cramps I had once on the rower.

Thanks Concept2 for letting me have cramps where I didn't think cramps were possible

Congratulations!
A PB is a PB.
I find longer times on the skierg more difficult than the rower - having to stand the whole time.

David

[ahooton]

WoD was a calorie one so as usual a pb attempt today. Went for HM as hadn’t completed one yet this season. 1:21.44, shaving a lovely 38 seconds off. Hope everyone is doing ok and looking forward to summer- it should arrive soon!

[Dangerscouse]

WoD was a calorie one so as usual a pb attempt today. Went for HM as hadn’t completed one yet this season. 1:21.44, shaving a lovely 38 seconds off. Hope everyone is doing ok and looking forward to summer- it should arrive soon!

Wow. Great improvement and result.

[RWAGR]

New 30 min PB: 8,182 at 1.49.9. This was an improvement of 62 meters. Interestingly, it was the highest HR I have seen (183). THis felt really at my max, but is only 2.9" slits faster than my 60 min PB. Does "Paul's Law" breakdown at longer distances? I'm aware that it's only ever an estimate, but this seems way off as definitely didn't have another 2 splits in me!

3 Min Splits:

1.49.6 r27
1.50.1 r28
1.50.2 r28
1.50.2 r28
1.50.4 r28
1.50.2 r28
1.50.4 r28
1.50.2 r28
1.50.1 r28
1.50.7 r28
1.50.7 r28
1.47.3 r29

[Dangerscouse]

New 30 min PB: 8,182 at 1.49.9. This was an improvement of 62 meters. Interestingly, it was the highest HR I have seen (183). THis felt really at my max, but is only 2.9" slits faster than my 60 min PB. Does "Paul's Law" breakdown at longer distances? I'm aware that it's only ever an estimate, but this seems way off as definitely didn't have another 2 splits in me!

3 Min Splits:

1.49.6 r27
1.50.1 r28
1.50.2 r28
1.50.2 r28
1.50.4 r28
1.50.2 r28
1.50.4 r28
1.50.2 r28
1.50.1 r28
1.50.7 r28
1.50.7 r28
1.47.3 r29

Cracking result Rob!! I only ever use Paul's Law very loosely as it's not sophisticated enough to take account of subjective things, not least being able to compare readiness on any given day.

[Sakly]

New 30 min PB: 8,182 at 1.49.9. This was an improvement of 62 meters. Interestingly, it was the highest HR I have seen (183). THis felt really at my max, but is only 2.9" slits faster than my 60 min PB. Does "Paul's Law" breakdown at longer distances? I'm aware that it's only ever an estimate, but this seems way off as definitely didn't have another 2 splits in me!

3 Min Splits:

1.49.6 r27
1.50.1 r28
1.50.2 r28
1.50.2 r28
1.50.4 r28
1.50.2 r28
1.50.4 r28
1.50.2 r28
1.50.1 r28
1.50.7 r28
1.50.7 r28
1.47.3 r29

Congratulations! Very consistent pacing

For me Paul's law works on shorter stuff, 500m, 1k and 2k are relatively new and have roughly 5s delta each in pace.
For longer stuff, which suits me much better, this isn't the case. Then it's more trending to smaller values, probably 3s delta.
Recent 10k was 1:48, HM 1:51.8, but much older than the 10k, so likely a bit faster. 60min and HM only differ by 0.9s (and these were done in the same season with no huge distance to each other).
Obviously, daily readiness and mindset has also a huge impact, so such laws are some kind of predictor to get an idea what could be possible, but it can be very different from day to day.

[ahooton]

New 30 min PB: 8,182 at 1.49.9. This was an improvement of 62 meters. Interestingly, it was the highest HR I have seen (183). THis felt really at my max, but is only 2.9" slits faster than my 60 min PB. Does "Paul's Law" breakdown at longer distances? I'm aware that it's only ever an estimate, but this seems way off as definitely didn't have another 2 splits in me!

3 Min Splits:

1.49.6 r27
1.50.1 r28
1.50.2 r28
1.50.2 r28
1.50.4 r28
1.50.2 r28
1.50.4 r28
1.50.2 r28
1.50.1 r28
1.50.7 r28
1.50.7 r28
1.47.3 r29

Wonderful effort mate. This is my next PB attempt as I’ve only done it at r20 and curious to see if I can break 8000m. Did you do any focused training for it?

[Dangerscouse]

This is my next PB attempt as I’ve only done it at r20 and curious to see if I can break 8000m.

I'm confident that you can break 8k with your 30r20 PB, but I'm also aware that higher stroke rates might not be good for you, which is where the potential will very probably be coming from.

[RWAGR]

This is my next PB attempt as I’ve only done it at r20 and curious to see if I can break 8000m.

I'm confident that you can break 8k with your 30r20 PB, but I'm also aware that higher stroke rates might not be good for you, which is where the potential will very probably be coming from.

Strong agree re 8k. You got this mate.

[nick rockliff]

New 30 min PB: 8,182 at 1.49.9. This was an improvement of 62 meters. Interestingly, it was the highest HR I have seen (183). THis felt really at my max, but is only 2.9" slits faster than my 60 min PB. Does "Paul's Law" breakdown at longer distances? I'm aware that it's only ever an estimate, but this seems way off as definitely didn't have another 2 splits in me!

3 Min Splits:

1.49.6 r27
1.50.1 r28
1.50.2 r28
1.50.2 r28
1.50.4 r28
1.50.2 r28
1.50.4 r28
1.50.2 r28
1.50.1 r28
1.50.7 r28
1.50.7 r28
1.47.3 r29

You're going the wrong way with the so called Paul's Law. If I remember correctly Paul suggested it was double the distance and add 5 secs to your avg. You did your 30 min in 1.49.9 so he would say the 60 min should be 1.54.9.

It also should only be applied from 2k upwards and everything should be in the same training period.

I always go by double the distance and add 3 sec which is about where you are.