Headaches post session
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Headaches post session
Quick question....does anyone else suffer from headaches post exercise?
I'm suffering quite often with necky tension which leads to headaches. These are often post exercise. I thought it may be hydration but I hit 2.5L today but still have one.
I've been to the GP but they were not really pinpointing anything. I thought it may be caffeine related but can't correlate that to today.
Looking back I remember getting some post a full on TT but it's now most sessions.
It's not going to stop me erging but is literally a pain in the neck.
I'm suffering quite often with necky tension which leads to headaches. These are often post exercise. I thought it may be hydration but I hit 2.5L today but still have one.
I've been to the GP but they were not really pinpointing anything. I thought it may be caffeine related but can't correlate that to today.
Looking back I remember getting some post a full on TT but it's now most sessions.
It's not going to stop me erging but is literally a pain in the neck.
6'2" 52yo
Alex
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Re: Headaches post session
At high ratings on rowerg our neck has to produce the forces needed to accelerate and decelerate the mass of our head as we move back and forth.
In severe cases such as car collisions it's called whiplash; cars have head rests and airbags. I noticed the effects on erg the first time I raced a 500m, but not since.
In severe cases such as car collisions it's called whiplash; cars have head rests and airbags. I noticed the effects on erg the first time I raced a 500m, but not since.
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2024: stroke 5.5W-min@20-21. ½k 190W, 1k 145W, 2k 120W. Using Wods 4-5days/week. Fading fast.
Re: Headaches post session
No.
Sounds bad Alex best of luck with sorting something to avoid that outcome.
Sounds bad Alex best of luck with sorting something to avoid that outcome.
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Re: Headaches post session
Have you tried backing off a bit (on both pace and stroke rate) so see if the issue abates?winniewinser wrote: ↑March 12th, 2024, 4:16 pmLooking back I remember getting some post a full on TT but it's now most sessions.
I'd see if an upper limit of 20 spm and at any given distance a pace that's 5 sec slower than your typical pace for that distance (to take a number from Paul's law) help things out.
Finally, do you do any other exercises, cardio or strength, that are as intensive as your rowing? If so, have you been getting any headaches there too? That might help diagnose the problem.
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Hey Alex, if this is caused by neck tension (based on your description this could be very likely) it can be aggravated by rowing with creating lots of tension due to missing stability of the shoulders and/or compensating movements.
I would try to do some stability drills for the shoulders. Look up Squat university on YouTube and search for shoulder stuff from them. It's worth a try.
Additional strength training in general is helpful for such topics.
I would try to do some stability drills for the shoulders. Look up Squat university on YouTube and search for shoulder stuff from them. It's worth a try.
Additional strength training in general is helpful for such topics.
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1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
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My log
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
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Re: Headaches post session
Thanks all.
I think the neck tension could be part of the root cause as I had not been rowing much and have recently increased volume. I also noted some neck tension when swimming breaststroke on holiday last week (different neck movements). Overall my posture needs work.....will check out that site Sascha.
Another underlying issue is my eyes/glasses....since getting separate reading/distance glasses and having to chop between them I have noted lots more headaches. Particularly behind my right eye which had the biggest prescription change recently. I change into even older glasses for rowing so I suspect all the chopping and changing is causing eye strain as they are not adjusting well.
So a couple of things to work on here. Eye test also booked in a couple of weeks time.
I think the neck tension could be part of the root cause as I had not been rowing much and have recently increased volume. I also noted some neck tension when swimming breaststroke on holiday last week (different neck movements). Overall my posture needs work.....will check out that site Sascha.
Another underlying issue is my eyes/glasses....since getting separate reading/distance glasses and having to chop between them I have noted lots more headaches. Particularly behind my right eye which had the biggest prescription change recently. I change into even older glasses for rowing so I suspect all the chopping and changing is causing eye strain as they are not adjusting well.
So a couple of things to work on here. Eye test also booked in a couple of weeks time.
6'2" 52yo
Alex
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All time 2k - 6:50.2 (LW)
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Re: Headaches post session
Can you row with eyes closed? I know it doesn't suit everyone but that might helpwinniewinser wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 5:00 amThanks all.
I think the neck tension could be part of the root cause as I had not been rowing much and have recently increased volume. I also noted some neck tension when swimming breaststroke on holiday last week (different neck movements). Overall my posture needs work.....will check out that site Sascha.
Another underlying issue is my eyes/glasses....since getting separate reading/distance glasses and having to chop between them I have noted lots more headaches. Particularly behind my right eye which had the biggest prescription change recently. I change into even older glasses for rowing so I suspect all the chopping and changing is causing eye strain as they are not adjusting well.
So a couple of things to work on here. Eye test also booked in a couple of weeks time.
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Re: Headaches post session
I could do but it makes watching Netflix harderDangerscouse wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 6:40 amCan you row with eyes closed? I know it doesn't suit everyone but that might help
I'll be trying another session later so will try my reading specs this time.
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Re: Headaches post session
Get some varifocals, much better than changing between two types.winniewinser wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 7:16 amI could do but it makes watching Netflix harderDangerscouse wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 6:40 amCan you row with eyes closed? I know it doesn't suit everyone but that might help
I'll be trying another session later so will try my reading specs this time.
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PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6
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Re: Headaches post session
Hahaha, I never think that some of us watch TV. I just can't get on with it, so it's always music for mewinniewinser wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 7:16 amI could do but it makes watching Netflix harderDangerscouse wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 6:40 amCan you row with eyes closed? I know it doesn't suit everyone but that might help
I'll be trying another session later so will try my reading specs this time.
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
"You reap what you row"
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Re: Headaches post session
Absolutely same for me - team musicDangerscouse wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 7:38 amHahaha, I never think that some of us watch TV. I just can't get on with it, so it's always music for mewinniewinser wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 7:16 amI could do but it makes watching Netflix harderDangerscouse wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 6:40 amCan you row with eyes closed? I know it doesn't suit everyone but that might help
I'll be trying another session later so will try my reading specs this time.
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log
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Re: Headaches post session
I've tried them before.....can't get on with them reallynick rockliff wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 7:19 amGet some varifocals, much better than changing between two types.winniewinser wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 7:16 amI could do but it makes watching Netflix harderDangerscouse wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 6:40 amCan you row with eyes closed? I know it doesn't suit everyone but that might help
I'll be trying another session later so will try my reading specs this time.
6'2" 52yo
Alex
Recent 2k - 7:19
All time 2k - 6:50.2 (LW)
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Re: Headaches post session
I have some "office glasses" that are varifocal only between short and mid-distance. Not sure whether you can get the equivalent for mid to long distance to allow TV viewing while still seeing the monitor.winniewinser wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 8:17 amI've tried them before.....can't get on with them reallynick rockliff wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 7:19 amGet some varifocals, much better than changing between two types.
For me even music is too much distraction on anything faster than long slow distances
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I feel like I need a full service, valet and maybe even an overhaul......eyes rubbish, ears constant tinitus and losing the left, back iffy....blah blah.....pfff
All excuses I know.....plenty in a worse boat than me.
All excuses I know.....plenty in a worse boat than me.
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Re: Headaches post session
I have constant tinnitus too. Would you believe my sight improved last year and had to have new lenses and have improved again since then. Apparently due to the start of cataracts and the changing shape of the eye lens! I don't need to wear glasses on the erg any more. I do have glaucoma too which doesn't get betterwinniewinser wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 9:34 amI feel like I need a full service, valet and maybe even an overhaul......eyes rubbish, ears constant tinitus and losing the left, back iffy....blah blah.....pfff
All excuses I know.....plenty in a worse boat than me.
67 6' 4" 108kg
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6