Adding Lifting to Rowing for fitness

[Elizabeth]

I find it interesting that you are concerned about risk of injury from lifting with challenging weights (which has a fairly low injury risk compared to many sports) but not from rowing with a high drag. Can you expand upon that?

[Sakly]

If you do weights without challenging your body, you won't get strength gains out if it. So obviously this is a kind of doing it wrong (at least in terms of getting stronger as a goal).
Any stress on the body will give you adaptations. How big they are is mainly depending on the intensity (=how much the stress is above your baseline).

The problem is that even with challenging weights, after 4-5 years you reach the plateau in mass gaining (and that is why some people start using steroids). Each consecutive year gains are smaller. The pure strength may not be as much affected but putting on a barbell maximal weight is risky.

And you think the gains with high rep low weight/low intensity will stay year by year? Really?
Max weight on a barbell is not part of a sufficient strength training plan, so your arguments are off for this discussion.
If you like to use the rower alone - go for it, no problem for me
But it will not have the same outcome as proper strength training in terms of strength.

[wizzard]

And you think the gains with high rep low weight/low intensity will stay year by year? Really?

No, I did not say that.

Max weight on a barbell is not part of a sufficient strength training plan, so your arguments are off for this discussion.

The theory is that training for strength (not necessary for hypertrophy) requires weights close to max (and sets with 1-5 repetitions) but in fact, many people (and me too) say they experienced even better results with lighter weights but more repetitions. They say that it is total capacity, volume that matters the most and with lighter weights allowing you to do more reps it is higher than the opposite. And now, please consider the capacity number of reps when rowing C2

[Sakly]

And you think the gains with high rep low weight/low intensity will stay year by year? Really?

No, I did not say that.

Placing this argument in a discussion obviously is about to convince that this is an advantage of the theory/opinion. Why else should one bring it on?

Max weight on a barbell is not part of a sufficient strength training plan, so your arguments are off for this discussion.

The theory is that training for strength (not necessary for hypertrophy) requires weights close to max (and sets with 1-5 repetitions) but in fact, many people (and me too) say they experienced even better results with lighter weights but more repetitions. They say that it is total capacity, volume that matters the most and with lighter weights allowing you to do more reps it is higher than the opposite. And now, please consider the capacity number of reps when rowing C2

Same movement for 1000 repetitions does not give you the same effect as doing it with 20 fold intensity and 5x5 repetitions.
Try it: go for 60min sessions at ~r20 and high drag (whatever you like) for the next 6 weeks and then try to go for squats @120kg for 5x5. If your theory/opinion is right, it should be no problem.
I bet it will not work.

[wizzard]

Same movement for 1000 repetitions does not give you the same effect as doing it with 20 fold intensity and 5x5 repetitions.
Try it: go for 60min sessions at ~r20 and high drag (whatever you like) for the next 6 weeks and then try to go for squats @120kg for 5x5. If your theory/opinion is right, it should be no problem.
I bet it will not work.

I know, just kidding a little bit at the end but surely it can help to maintain muscles gained by lifting weights.

[Sakly]

Same movement for 1000 repetitions does not give you the same effect as doing it with 20 fold intensity and 5x5 repetitions.
Try it: go for 60min sessions at ~r20 and high drag (whatever you like) for the next 6 weeks and then try to go for squats @120kg for 5x5. If your theory/opinion is right, it should be no problem.
I bet it will not work.

I know, just kidding a little bit at the end but surely it can help to maintain muscles gained by lifting weights.

Maintaining muscle - probably yes, to a degree. Maintaining strength - no. These are different aspects and that was what was pointed out.