New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by robhely » November 23rd, 2023, 5:48 am

First row since HM last weekend, I couldn't decide what to do so made an attempt on my 30 minute PB and gained a modest 111m:

7847m / 1:54.6 / r28 / 166bpm

Was happy with the consistency of the splits, which were:

1:54.8
1:54.8
1:54.9
1:54.8
1:53.9

I found this one quite hard - it was too warm today and I didn't have a great sleep last night. I haven't aborted a PB attempt yet, but with this one I was very close to calling it!
M/53/179cm/74.8kg
started rowing late 2022

PBs
1k: 3:26.2
2k: 7:09.9
5k: 18:46.0
30min: 7,847m
10k: 38:57.0
60min: 15,060m
HM: 1:26:14.1

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by RWAGR » November 23rd, 2023, 9:40 am

2k PB. By 3 seconds. Disappointed not to hit 6.45.0. Ugh. Still, I suppose that means I get to hit that milestone in my 40's next year. Also means this calendar year I've rowed FM (by default), HM, 60', 10k, 30', 5k, and 2k PBs, so I should be satisfied with that.

6:45.4 2,000m 1:41.3 336 1457 30
1:41.2 500m 1:41.2 338 1462 30
1:42.4 1,000m 1:42.4 326 1421 30
1:42.2 1,500m 1:42.2 328 1428 30
1:39.5 2,000m 1:39.5 355 1522 33
Rob, 40, 6'1", 188 lbs. Potomac, MD, USA (albeit English-Australian originally).

2k: 6:45.4 (2023)
5k: 17:46.7 (2024)
30': 8,182 (2024)
10k: 36:49.9 (2024)
60’: 15,967 (2024)
HM: 1:20:27.4 (2024)
FM: 2:48:21.4 (2024)
100k: 7:43:28.2 (2024)

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Kerry1960 » November 23rd, 2023, 9:53 am

Great row Rob and finished strong. More to come I think
M64 6ft 2, 1.90m,14st 4lbs (200), 90 kg, NW England
First erg Jan 2023
PBs 500m 1:34.4, 1k 3:30.9, 2k 7:32.3
5k 20:09, 6k 24:30, 30m 7310m, 30r20 7133m

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Vcweiss346 » November 23rd, 2023, 10:34 am

RWAGR wrote:
November 23rd, 2023, 9:40 am
2k PB. By 3 seconds. Disappointed not to hit 6.45.0. Ugh. Still, I suppose that means I get to hit that milestone in my 40's next year. Also means this calendar year I've rowed FM (by default), HM, 60', 10k, 30', 5k, and 2k PBs, so I should be satisfied with that.

6:45.4 2,000m 1:41.3 336 1457 30
1:41.2 500m 1:41.2 338 1462 30
1:42.4 1,000m 1:42.4 326 1421 30
1:42.2 1,500m 1:42.2 328 1428 30
1:39.5 2,000m 1:39.5 355 1522 33
Fantastic pacing! Looks like it went exactly to plan.
Heavyweight

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Sakly » November 23rd, 2023, 10:45 am

RWAGR wrote:
November 23rd, 2023, 9:40 am
2k PB. By 3 seconds. Disappointed not to hit 6.45.0. Ugh. Still, I suppose that means I get to hit that milestone in my 40's next year. Also means this calendar year I've rowed FM (by default), HM, 60', 10k, 30', 5k, and 2k PBs, so I should be satisfied with that.

6:45.4 2,000m 1:41.3 336 1457 30
1:41.2 500m 1:41.2 338 1462 30
1:42.4 1,000m 1:42.4 326 1421 30
1:42.2 1,500m 1:42.2 328 1428 30
1:39.5 2,000m 1:39.5 355 1522 33
Very well done!
Looking at the splits, it's very likely you will get the .4 only by a bit more even pacing.
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by nick rockliff » November 23rd, 2023, 11:01 am

RWAGR wrote:
November 23rd, 2023, 9:40 am
2k PB. By 3 seconds. Disappointed not to hit 6.45.0. Ugh. Still, I suppose that means I get to hit that milestone in my 40's next year. Also means this calendar year I've rowed FM (by default), HM, 60', 10k, 30', 5k, and 2k PBs, so I should be satisfied with that.

6:45.4 2,000m 1:41.3 336 1457 30
1:41.2 500m 1:41.2 338 1462 30
1:42.4 1,000m 1:42.4 326 1421 30
1:42.2 1,500m 1:42.2 328 1428 30
1:39.5 2,000m 1:39.5 355 1522 33
Well done, you will keep improving in your 40s. I started when I was 45 and set all my PBs when I was 48.
67 6' 4" 108kg
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by nick rockliff » November 23rd, 2023, 11:04 am

robhely wrote:
November 23rd, 2023, 5:48 am
First row since HM last weekend, I couldn't decide what to do so made an attempt on my 30 minute PB and gained a modest 111m:

7847m / 1:54.6 / r28 / 166bpm

Was happy with the consistency of the splits, which were:

1:54.8
1:54.8
1:54.9
1:54.8
1:53.9

I found this one quite hard - it was too warm today and I didn't have a great sleep last night. I haven't aborted a PB attempt yet, but with this one I was very close to calling it!
A gain of 111 mtrs is great, well done.
67 6' 4" 108kg
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by p_b82 » November 23rd, 2023, 2:39 pm

Slightly annoyed that I missed ducking under 1:36 by 8s - which was my "this would be perfect" target... slight wobble when I realised i needed a drink and i'd brought a glass not the squeezy bottle (hadn't really meant to go for the HM today, but felt like it when I sat down).

added plus is that's the last of my r20 challenges completed, and all of them decent pb's - this one beat my previous 1:39:27.3 by 3mins19 with a much better row as per the graph comparison - no butt pain, but I have just put a blister under a callous on my fingers some-how!

Today's HM Vs Previous HM

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	
1:36:08	21,097m	2:16.7	137	771	20	172
12:06.9	2,650m	2:17.1	136	766	20	162
12:07.6	5,300m	2:17.2	135	765	20	165
12:07.7	7,950m	2:17.3	135	765	20	168
12:06.9	10,600m	2:17.1	136	766	20	174
12:10.5	13,250m	2:17.8	134	760	20	174
12:05.8	15,900m	2:16.9	136	769	20	175
12:06.5	18,550m	2:17.0	136	767	20	177
11:16.2	21,097m	2:12.7	150	814	20	185
M 6'4 born:'82
PB's
'23: 6k=25:23.5, HM=1:36:08.0, 60'=13,702m
'24: 500m=1:37.7, 2k=7:44.80, 5k=20:42.9, 10k=42:13.1, FM=3:18:35.4, 30'=7,132m
Logbook

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by robhely » November 23rd, 2023, 5:56 pm

RWAGR wrote:
November 23rd, 2023, 9:40 am
2k PB. By 3 seconds. Disappointed not to hit 6.45.0. Ugh. Still, I suppose that means I get to hit that milestone in my 40's next year. Also means this calendar year I've rowed FM (by default), HM, 60', 10k, 30', 5k, and 2k PBs, so I should be satisfied with that.

6:45.4 2,000m 1:41.3 336 1457 30
1:41.2 500m 1:41.2 338 1462 30
1:42.4 1,000m 1:42.4 326 1421 30
1:42.2 1,500m 1:42.2 328 1428 30
1:39.5 2,000m 1:39.5 355 1522 33
I don't think you've got much to be disappointed about, that's a fantastic result!
M/53/179cm/74.8kg
started rowing late 2022

PBs
1k: 3:26.2
2k: 7:09.9
5k: 18:46.0
30min: 7,847m
10k: 38:57.0
60min: 15,060m
HM: 1:26:14.1

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by robhely » November 23rd, 2023, 5:59 pm

p_b82 wrote:
November 23rd, 2023, 2:39 pm
Slightly annoyed that I missed ducking under 1:36 by 8s - which was my "this would be perfect" target... slight wobble when I realised i needed a drink and i'd brought a glass not the squeezy bottle (hadn't really meant to go for the HM today, but felt like it when I sat down).

added plus is that's the last of my r20 challenges completed, and all of them decent pb's - this one beat my previous 1:39:27.3 by 3mins19 with a much better row as per the graph comparison - no butt pain, but I have just put a blister under a callous on my fingers some-how!

Today's HM Vs Previous HM

Code: Select all

Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	
1:36:08	21,097m	2:16.7	137	771	20	172
12:06.9	2,650m	2:17.1	136	766	20	162
12:07.6	5,300m	2:17.2	135	765	20	165
12:07.7	7,950m	2:17.3	135	765	20	168
12:06.9	10,600m	2:17.1	136	766	20	174
12:10.5	13,250m	2:17.8	134	760	20	174
12:05.8	15,900m	2:16.9	136	769	20	175
12:06.5	18,550m	2:17.0	136	767	20	177
11:16.2	21,097m	2:12.7	150	814	20	185
Brilliant effort, it must make it so much harder to do a long row like this at r20!
M/53/179cm/74.8kg
started rowing late 2022

PBs
1k: 3:26.2
2k: 7:09.9
5k: 18:46.0
30min: 7,847m
10k: 38:57.0
60min: 15,060m
HM: 1:26:14.1

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by robhely » November 23rd, 2023, 6:02 pm

Kerry1960 wrote:
November 23rd, 2023, 9:53 am
Great row Rob and finished strong. More to come I think
Thanks, I hope so! I'm heading overseas for a month soon, so hoping to tick off a few goals before then. Next targets are 60 mins and 10k.
M/53/179cm/74.8kg
started rowing late 2022

PBs
1k: 3:26.2
2k: 7:09.9
5k: 18:46.0
30min: 7,847m
10k: 38:57.0
60min: 15,060m
HM: 1:26:14.1

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by aussie nick » November 23rd, 2023, 7:29 pm

robhely wrote:
November 23rd, 2023, 1:57 am
aussie nick wrote:
November 20th, 2023, 11:01 pm

congratulations on the PR - excellent row. And we are the opposite in our preferences. I find pushing on anything beyond 1k to be terrifying!
Haha, I agree that the 2k is a beast, but give me a nice mellow 5k or 10k any day over the torture of a 500m! I can't even get my splits down to something respectable when doing 30 seconds hard out.
but so much less pain...and more importantly for me....so much less fear of the pain to come
M/52/6ft/86kg
took up rowing during pandemic

500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by HornetMaX » November 23rd, 2023, 7:59 pm

aussie nick wrote:
November 23rd, 2023, 7:29 pm
robhely wrote:
November 23rd, 2023, 1:57 am
aussie nick wrote:
November 20th, 2023, 11:01 pm

congratulations on the PR - excellent row. And we are the opposite in our preferences. I find pushing on anything beyond 1k to be terrifying!
Haha, I agree that the 2k is a beast, but give me a nice mellow 5k or 10k any day over the torture of a 500m! I can't even get my splits down to something respectable when doing 30 seconds hard out.
but so much less pain...and more importantly for me....so much less fear of the pain to come
Personally I seem to concentrate all my hate on the 2K: anything else between a 1' and a HM doesn't bother me.
I've only done 2 FM but I suspect that I may enjoy the next FM more than the next 2K.

The 2K seems so wrong to me in terms of risk/reward: a ton of pain for maybe a few seconds off your PB if everything goes right. Meaning there are more than decent chances of no improvement or even HD.
1973, 173cm (5'8"), LW, started rowing Sep 2021 (after 10 years of being a couch potato), c2 log
RowErg PBs:
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by robhely » November 24th, 2023, 4:37 am

HornetMaX wrote:
November 23rd, 2023, 7:59 pm

Personally I seem to concentrate all my hate on the 2K: anything else between a 1' and a HM doesn't bother me.
I've only done 2 FM but I suspect that I may enjoy the next FM more than the next 2K.

The 2K seems so wrong to me in terms of risk/reward: a ton of pain for maybe a few seconds off your PB if everything goes right. Meaning there are more than decent chances of no improvement or even HD.
Totally agree, apart from the 500m, the 2k is one of the few distances where I just can't settle in and hold a steady pace. The pain ramps up all too fast and holding that optimistic split I started with soon seems impossible, crushing me mentally...

Strangely I find the 1k a lot easier to deal with than the 500m or 2k.
M/53/179cm/74.8kg
started rowing late 2022

PBs
1k: 3:26.2
2k: 7:09.9
5k: 18:46.0
30min: 7,847m
10k: 38:57.0
60min: 15,060m
HM: 1:26:14.1

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by HornetMaX » November 24th, 2023, 10:02 am

Chipped 20sec from my 10K, form 40:10 to 39:49.

Goal was sub 40min, so I decided to go for ~1:59 pace for the 1st half and then try to hold 2:00 pace for the rest (as I know I typically suck at negative splits). I almost HD at 30min: gave up for 2-3 strokes, then somehow decided to go on (but yeah, pace in the last 2500m has been a bit of a rollercoaster).

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Time 	Meters 	Pace 	Watts 	Cal/Hr 	S/M 	HR
39:48.5 10,000m 1:59.4 	205 	1007 	26 	171
3:56.7 	1,000m 	1:58.3 	211 	1026 	25 	163
3:57.4 	2,000m 	1:58.7 	209 	1020 	27 	166
3:56.9 	3,000m 	1:58.4 	211 	1024 	27 	168
3:57.4 	4,000m 	1:58.7 	209 	1020 	27 	172
3:58.1 	5,000m 	1:59.0 	207 	1013 	27 	170
3:59.0 	6,000m 	1:59.5 	205 	1005 	27 	173
4:00.1 	7,000m 	2:00.0 	202 	996 	26 	174
4:03.6 	8,000m 	2:01.8 	194 	966 	27 	172
4:02.2 	9,000m 	2:01.1 	197 	978 	27 	175
3:57.1 	10,000m 1:58.5 	210 	1022 	27 	182
Kind of happy for the sub-40min, but to be honest I feel I'm plateauing since August: the improvement here may be well given by the better conditions (today it was 12C, the previous PB was in 29C) and on other distances I'm really not sure I could improve right now.
I try to push my hard sessions but there's a limit to how hard I can do them. Guess next thing I'll try is to go for a marathon training program that seems to focus more on volume (I usually do 50-60K per week) and see if this helps other distances than FM.

And yeah, that was my 1st post-50yo PB :)
1973, 173cm (5'8"), LW, started rowing Sep 2021 (after 10 years of being a couch potato), c2 log
RowErg PBs:
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