Where do these black deposits come from and what can you do about them?

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Where do these black deposits come from and what can you do about them?

Post by miket-nyc » November 17th, 2023, 8:28 pm

After a row, I often get deposits like these on the rail of my rower:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/JcWEpHvBnnQc3pNSA

I'm not sweating on the rower or dropping anything on there, and I clean them thoroughly off the rail and the top rollers with Dawn dishwashing liquid on a wet face cloth.

But they keep coming back. Would new top rollers solve this problem? My Model D is fairly old and I already had to move the bottom rollers to reduce seat wobble.

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Re: Where do these black deposits come from and what can you do about them?

Post by Ombrax » November 17th, 2023, 9:50 pm

Nothing you can do about it, other than cleaning the rail (and the rollers if necessary) before or after a workout. I do it before, to also take off any accumulated dust since I last rowed.

They're very common, and as far as I know, everyone gets them. (I don't know exactly what they are, but others here will.)

When I use my Model C at home I use glass cleaner (generic Windex) and a paper towel. On the Model E at the gym I use the anti-bacterial wet-wipes they have in abundance. Neither approach seems to damage the rail or the rollers.

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Post by Carl Watts » November 17th, 2023, 10:15 pm

Its the stainless steel slowly oxidising and it comes off on the rollers.

Get a stainless saucepan or frying pan, even if its clean the water goes black if you hit it with a scourer.

The rollers are a hard material, its just wear and new rollers will not change it.

Just wipe the slide and the rollers clean, I used to do it before every row using just a damp dish cloth, no need for detergent or anything.
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Post by Sakly » November 18th, 2023, 1:49 am

Carl Watts wrote:
November 17th, 2023, 10:15 pm
Just wipe the slide and the rollers clean, I used to do it before every row using just a damp dish cloth, no need for detergent or anything.
Exactly what I do since I got my erg Jan '23. Also better for the environment.
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1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
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500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
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Post by jamesg » November 18th, 2023, 3:22 am

Must be a mix of blood sweat and tears, plus whatever's in the rollers, graphite, MS. What's odd is it never ends.
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Post by Ombrax » November 18th, 2023, 5:46 am

jamesg wrote:
November 18th, 2023, 3:22 am
What's odd is it never ends.
In fact, it's a bad, bad sign if it does stop accumulating - that means that the erg is only building up dust, not meters.

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Post by Dangerscouse » November 18th, 2023, 6:18 am

Ombrax wrote:
November 18th, 2023, 5:46 am
jamesg wrote:
November 18th, 2023, 3:22 am
What's odd is it never ends.
In fact, it's a bad, bad sign if it does stop accumulating - that means that the erg is only building up dust, not meters.
Hahahahaha
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Re: Where do these black deposits come from and what can you do about them?

Post by hikeplusrow » November 18th, 2023, 7:05 am

After every workout, I clean the rail with a non-acidic glass cleaner I get from Sainsbury's. Prior to beginning a workout, I always make sure there's no dust or muck on the rail. My erg is kept under a C2 cover when not in use.

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Post by Cyclist2 » November 18th, 2023, 1:14 pm

What Carl said; no cleaners, just water. Plus, I use my finger wrapped in the damp towel to clean the rollers every row, too. I wedge my wrapped finger between the roller and rail (four times, once for each roller contact point), roll the seat back and forth a few times, then do the same thing with a dry part of the towel. It's easy to do this before I even get off the machine after the workout.
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Post by gvcormac » November 18th, 2023, 1:42 pm

If I simply wipe the sweat from the rail after use, I get no accumulation.

If the wheels feel lumpy I wipe them too -- just hold a rag to the wheel and roll it back and forth.

My Model D is now over 20 years old, and I've never needed to use cleaner.

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