CRASH-Bs 2024????

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Re: CRASH-Bs 2024????

Post by jcross485 » September 29th, 2023, 11:33 pm

Mike Caviston wrote:
September 29th, 2023, 10:39 pm
I've been very frustrated the past couple years trying to find a race I could attend. Many established races seem to be on extended hiatus. Others don't set a date until too late to make travel arrangements. Still others fail to provide information about schedule, age groups, or weight classes. Too bad, since there is no substitute for live, in-person venue racing.
I wonder what the logistics, costs, etc. would be to get something in person started...I've never been part of organizing something of scale but it could be interesting.

I am in quite a popular tourist destination area so plenty of facilities to choose from.

It could be cool to make it a bit of a festival.

500m, 2k, 6k events for both the RowErg and SkiErg; maybe 1k, 4k, 12k for the BikeErg?

Ergathlon events of Ski --> Bike --> Row.

I'm just surprised there are not more in-person indoor events given the relative accessibility there is to the machines as well as the relatively low impact such that you can do it for a long period compared to other sports. And frankly, the machine costs are quite low when you compare it to the numbers of shoes people go through, quality bike costs, etc.
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Re: CRASH-Bs 2024????

Post by Yankeerunner » September 30th, 2023, 10:46 am

jpreisig wrote:
September 28th, 2023, 10:22 pm
I wrote to USRowing a few weeks ago asking about Indoor Nationals for 2024. They said that they are finalizing details and would be announcing them soon. I certainly hope that both Indoor Nationals and CRASH-B happen in 2024. I just started rowing on an Erg in mid-summer and was (am) looking forward to chances to row with other people rather than alone in my basement. I lived in Boston for years and had always heard about CRASH-B and was looking forward to the chance to be a part of it.
That sounds promising. I hope that the announcement comes soon, because as Mike Caviston said, some races get scheduled so close to the race date that other plans have already been made.

In my own case, I made the original post on this thread because my brother is trying to arrange a trip for us sometime around the usual date of CRASH-Bs and I don't want to end up with the trip happening on CRASH-Bs weekend when it could just as easily have been planned for the weekend after. He's limited by his work situation, having to schedule the time off well in advance, to say nothing of the lead time necessary to reserve space on guided tours.

My fingers are crossed that both USRowing and CRASH-Bs will happen, and that I can compete.
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Re: CRASH-Bs 2024????

Post by Yankeerunner » October 1st, 2023, 6:41 pm

Today at the Textile River Regatta in Lowell, MA I spoke with Holly Hatton, former board member of CRASH-Bs and now coach of a big high school program. She said she had contacted those that she knows at CRASH-Bs in order avoid a conflict with her own Ergzilla competition. The word from Holly is that CRASH-Bs is still in the planning, sometime in February, date and venue yet to be determined.

BTW, Ergzilla will be the first Sunday in March, in central Massachusetts. A smallish, but well-organized ergatta that I've done several times in the past. I strongly recommend it.
55-59: 1:33.5 3:19.2 6:55.7 18:22.0 2:47:26.5
60-64: 1:35.9 3:23.8 7:06.7 18:40.8 2:48:53.6
65-69: 1:38.6 3:31.9 7:19.2 19:26.6 3:02:06.0
70-74: 1:40.2 3:33.4 7:32.6 19:50.5 3:06:36.8
75-76: 1:43.9 3:47.7 7:50.2 20:51.3 3:13:55.7

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Re: CRASH-Bs 2024????

Post by Elizabeth » October 3rd, 2023, 8:32 am

Interesting. I put out some feelers and was told that CRASH-Bs are happening and to be patient with the website.

ErgSprints has publicly announced a February 3, 2024 date, and is held in Alexandria VA. It was the same weekend as US Rowing Indoors Nationals last year, and I'm not sure if they take each other into account at all when scheduling.

WRICH is February 23-24, 2024 in Prague.

February may be looking quite busy, and I think I am going to be in a limited PTO situation.
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Re: CRASH-Bs 2024????

Post by Yankeerunner » October 3rd, 2023, 10:35 am

The Alexandria ergatta was the World Rowing world championship in 2018, and they did a great job. Having the USRowing national championship there would be a good choice.
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Re: CRASH-Bs 2024????

Post by Yankeerunner » October 16th, 2023, 3:53 pm

The CRASH-B.org website is back up today. Only info so far is that it will be held in 2024 on a Sunday, but the date is yet to be determined.
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Re: CRASH-Bs 2024????

Post by Yankeerunner » November 1st, 2023, 12:09 pm

jpreisig wrote:
September 28th, 2023, 10:22 pm
I wrote to USRowing a few weeks ago asking about Indoor Nationals for 2024. They said that they are finalizing details and would be announcing them soon. I certainly hope that both Indoor Nationals and CRASH-B happen in 2024. I just started rowing on an Erg in mid-summer and was (am) looking forward to chances to row with other people rather than alone in my basement. I lived in Boston for years and had always heard about CRASH-B and was looking forward to the chance to be a part of it.
Progress. As of yesterday USRowing is showing that the National Championship will be on February 3, 2024 in Princeton, NJ. No further information yet, and registration is not yet open. Too bad that it's going to be the same day as the excellent Alexandria, VA ergatta.

CRASH-Bs is still showing. "Please stay turned for news on the 2024 regatta" and "Date and location TBA."
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65-69: 1:38.6 3:31.9 7:19.2 19:26.6 3:02:06.0
70-74: 1:40.2 3:33.4 7:32.6 19:50.5 3:06:36.8
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Re: CRASH-Bs 2024????

Post by jpreisig » November 1st, 2023, 3:10 pm

I just looked and saw that on Regatta Central but could not find it on the U.S. Rowing Website. Can you please send a link to the listing on the U.S. Rowing website. It is too bad about the conflict. Given a relative sparsity of races, it would be nice if the quality events did not overlap. Particularly since the venues are relatively close in location.

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Post by Yankeerunner » November 1st, 2023, 4:22 pm

I was just doing a search on Bing and the regattacentral listing came up:

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Web2024 USRowing Indoor National Championships Feb 3, 2024 indoor Virtual Princeton, NJ (USA) Hosted By: USRowing Registration Closed Information Overview News FAQ Contacts Sponsors History Venue Volunteer Event List Clubs Entries Heat Sheet/Draw Results …


Looking at it a bit more closely it appears that it may be virtual only. That would suck. I'd go to Alexandria instead.
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Re: CRASH-Bs 2024????

Post by Yankeerunner » November 16th, 2023, 5:36 pm

USRowing has finally made an announcement. February 3rd, at Alexandria, VA, Pittsburgh, PA and virtual. Looks like I'll be going to Alexandria, and as a bonus get to spend some time with old friend and fellow Forum Flyer Paul Flack.

Still no further word on the date or place of CRASH-Bs. If they too will be a host location I hope that it's announced before I enter Alexandria and pay for train tickets.


USRowing is excited to introduce a hybrid model for the 2024 USRowing Indoor National Championships. Designed to offer greater access and flexibility for a wide range of indoor enthusiasts, competitors can participate either at an official host location or remotely from around the world as they vie for a national championship.

For participants who want to experience the thrill and camaraderie of an in-person championship, USRowing is collaborating with The Pittsburgh Indoor Sprints (date to be announced) in Pittsburgh, Pa., and the Erg Sprints (February 3) in Alexandria, Va., to offer a standardized event list and publish all results to the USRowing Indoor National Championships Leaderboard. Each host will include youth, masters, inclusive, and Para events, as well as learn-to-row sessions to welcome newcomers of all ages, backgrounds, and abilities.

For participants more than 150 miles away from a host location, USRowing is offering a remote option. On February 3, competitors can set up a satellite location at their local boathouse, CrossFit, or from the comfort of their own home. USRowing, in partnership with TimeTeam, will provide all the details for competitors to participate virtually.

Once racing has concluded on February 3, USRowing will announce national champions based on the combined results from all competitions. Medals will be awarded to the top three athletes nationally in each individual event listed in the official national championship event list. Participants at official host locations also will have the chance to earn a local medal by placing in the top three at those competitions.

Stay tuned for the announcement of additional host locations. If you're hosting an indoor regatta and would like to collaborate on the 2024 USRowing Indoor National Championships, contact Regattas@usrowing.org by November 24.

Official Host Locations
Pittsburgh Indoor Sprints - Pittsburgh, Pa.
Date: To be announced
Registration coming soon!

Erg Sprints - Alexandria, Va.
Date: February 3, 2024
Click Here for registration!

USRowing Virtual Competition - Anywhere, USA
Date: February 3, 2024
Registration: Opens November 21, 2023
Click here for the RegattaCentral page!
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65-69: 1:38.6 3:31.9 7:19.2 19:26.6 3:02:06.0
70-74: 1:40.2 3:33.4 7:32.6 19:50.5 3:06:36.8
75-76: 1:43.9 3:47.7 7:50.2 20:51.3 3:13:55.7

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Re: CRASH-Bs 2024????

Post by Aarav » November 20th, 2023, 7:53 am

Yankeerunner wrote:
October 1st, 2023, 6:41 pm
Today at the Textile River Regatta in Lowell, MA I spoke with Holly Hatton, former board member of CRASH-Bs and now coach of a big high school program. She said she had contacted those that she knows at CRASH-Bs in order avoid a conflict with her own Ergzilla competition. The word from Holly is that CRASH-Bs is still in the planning, sometime in February, date and venue yet to be determined.

BTW, Ergzilla will be the first Sunday in March, in central Massachusetts. A smallish, but well-organized ergatta that I've done several times in the past. I strongly recommend it.
Great intel from the Textile River Regatta! Holly Hatton's insights on CRASH-Bs planning are valuable. Looking forward to the details in February. Also, thanks for the heads up on Ergzilla in central Massachusetts—sounds like a well-organized event. Exciting times ahead for the rowing community!

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Re: CRASH-Bs 2024????

Post by Yankeerunner » November 22nd, 2023, 9:33 am

Aarav wrote:
November 20th, 2023, 7:53 am
Yankeerunner wrote:
October 1st, 2023, 6:41 pm
Today at the Textile River Regatta in Lowell, MA I spoke with Holly Hatton, former board member of CRASH-Bs and now coach of a big high school program. She said she had contacted those that she knows at CRASH-Bs in order avoid a conflict with her own Ergzilla competition. The word from Holly is that CRASH-Bs is still in the planning, sometime in February, date and venue yet to be determined.

BTW, Ergzilla will be the first Sunday in March, in central Massachusetts. A smallish, but well-organized ergatta that I've done several times in the past. I strongly recommend it.
Great intel from the Textile River Regatta! Holly Hatton's insights on CRASH-Bs planning are valuable. Looking forward to the details in February. Also, thanks for the heads up on Ergzilla in central Massachusetts—sounds like a well-organized event. Exciting times ahead for the rowing community!
Yesterday I got word that tentatively CRASH-Bs are likely to be held on February 11th. No venue nailed down yet though, so it's still in 'stay tuned' status. Good to know the weekend though. Doesn't appear to conflict with any of the other regattas that are within easy access to me. I get to do both Alexandria and CRASH-Bs.
55-59: 1:33.5 3:19.2 6:55.7 18:22.0 2:47:26.5
60-64: 1:35.9 3:23.8 7:06.7 18:40.8 2:48:53.6
65-69: 1:38.6 3:31.9 7:19.2 19:26.6 3:02:06.0
70-74: 1:40.2 3:33.4 7:32.6 19:50.5 3:06:36.8
75-76: 1:43.9 3:47.7 7:50.2 20:51.3 3:13:55.7

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Re: CRASH-Bs 2024????

Post by Aarav » November 22nd, 2023, 10:10 am

Yankeerunner wrote:
November 22nd, 2023, 9:33 am
Aarav wrote:
November 20th, 2023, 7:53 am
Yankeerunner wrote:
October 1st, 2023, 6:41 pm
Today at the Textile River Regatta in Lowell, MA I spoke with Holly Hatton, former board member of CRASH-Bs and now coach of a big high school program. She said she had contacted those that she knows at CRASH-Bs in order avoid a conflict with her own Ergzilla competition. The word from Holly is that CRASH-Bs is still in the planning, sometime in February, date and venue yet to be determined.

BTW, Ergzilla will be the first Sunday in March, in central Massachusetts. A smallish, but well-organized ergatta that I've done several times in the past. I strongly recommend it.
Great intel from the Textile River Regatta! Holly Hatton's insights on CRASH-Bs planning are valuable. Looking forward to the details in February. Also, thanks for the heads up on Ergzilla in central Massachusetts—sounds like a well-organized event. Exciting times ahead for the rowing community!
Yesterday I got word that tentatively CRASH-Bs are likely to be held on February 11th. No venue nailed down yet though, so it's still in 'stay tuned' status. Good to know the weekend though. Doesn't appear to conflict with any of the other regattas that are within easy access to me. I get to do both Alexandria and CRASH-Bs.
Wonderful news! The tentative date of February 11th for CRASH-Bs opens up the possibility of a jam-packed yet gratifying itinerary that combines both Alexandria and CRASH-Bs without conflicting with other regattas.

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Re: CRASH-Bs 2024????

Post by jpitchford » December 16th, 2023, 11:51 am

Is it time to give up on CRASH-Bs for 2024? Or at least time to give up on the purported February 11 date? Seems highly unlikely the organizers would try to pull it together in two months (not to mention competitors' flights, hotels, training schedules, etc.) Such a great event last year! Well-organized and terrific venue. While there were concerns about turnout in some categories, keeping the date a mystery is not going to help that problem.

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Re: CRASH-Bs 2024????

Post by Formula1go » December 16th, 2023, 12:23 pm

Newbie here, so please be gentle. My son is a high school sophomore, who is enjoying rowing so far and would like to continue onto college rowing. What is the benefit of participating in an event such as Crash B?

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