New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
The worst enemy on the erg is surely the "projected finish" screen on the PM. It plays mind games and I spend the whole first 80% of a row going too fast as I don't want to "fall behind" even though I know that it's skewed and one always makes up the seconds in the last 10/20% of the row.
This means that I often fail time trials because I go out too hard and row ahead of PB pace for the first half of the piece, leaving nothing left in the tank. This happened on Friday when I HD'd a 10k PB attempt at 8987 meters (pathetic).
Today, I focused on staying calm and staying moderate. Ironically, the mental reset meant I rowed the first 9k at basically the same splits as my failed attempt on Friday, and had plenty left in the tank for a fast final k. This smashed both my PB and my target PB (by >20" and >10" respectively). I'm also happy to say I have comfortably broken 37.30 for the 10k. I guess the next stop would be sub 37, but that is miles away...
37:19.1 10,000m 1:51.9 249 1158 25
7:30.3 2,000m 1:52.5 245 1144 25
7:31.1 2,000m 1:52.7 244 1139 25
7:30.7 2,000m 1:52.6 245 1142 25
7:29.4 2,000m 1:52.3 247 1149 25
7:17.6 2,000m 1:49.4 267 1219 26
This means that I often fail time trials because I go out too hard and row ahead of PB pace for the first half of the piece, leaving nothing left in the tank. This happened on Friday when I HD'd a 10k PB attempt at 8987 meters (pathetic).
Today, I focused on staying calm and staying moderate. Ironically, the mental reset meant I rowed the first 9k at basically the same splits as my failed attempt on Friday, and had plenty left in the tank for a fast final k. This smashed both my PB and my target PB (by >20" and >10" respectively). I'm also happy to say I have comfortably broken 37.30 for the 10k. I guess the next stop would be sub 37, but that is miles away...
37:19.1 10,000m 1:51.9 249 1158 25
7:30.3 2,000m 1:52.5 245 1144 25
7:31.1 2,000m 1:52.7 244 1139 25
7:30.7 2,000m 1:52.6 245 1142 25
7:29.4 2,000m 1:52.3 247 1149 25
7:17.6 2,000m 1:49.4 267 1219 26
Rob, 40, 6'1", 188 lbs. Potomac, MD, USA (albeit English-Australian originally).
2k: 6:45.4 (2023)
5k: 17:46.7 (2024)
30': 8,182 (2024)
10k: 36:49.9 (2024)
60’: 15,967 (2024)
HM: 1:20:27.4 (2024)
FM: 2:48:21.4 (2024)
100k: 7:43:28.2 (2024)
2k: 6:45.4 (2023)
5k: 17:46.7 (2024)
30': 8,182 (2024)
10k: 36:49.9 (2024)
60’: 15,967 (2024)
HM: 1:20:27.4 (2024)
FM: 2:48:21.4 (2024)
100k: 7:43:28.2 (2024)
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Nice story and give PB, well doneRWAGR wrote: ↑May 22nd, 2023, 8:09 amThe worst enemy on the erg is surely the "projected finish" screen on the PM. It plays mind games and I spend the whole first 80% of a row going too fast as I don't want to "fall behind" even though I know that it's skewed and one always makes up the seconds in the last 10/20% of the row.
This means that I often fail time trials because I go out too hard and row ahead of PB pace for the first half of the piece, leaving nothing left in the tank. This happened on Friday when I HD'd a 10k PB attempt at 8987 meters (pathetic).
Today, I focused on staying calm and staying moderate. Ironically, the mental reset meant I rowed the first 9k at basically the same splits as my failed attempt on Friday, and had plenty left in the tank for a fast final k. This smashed both my PB and my target PB (by >20" and >10" respectively). I'm also happy to say I have comfortably broken 37.30 for the 10k. I guess the next stop would be sub 37, but that is miles away...
37:19.1 10,000m 1:51.9 249 1158 25
7:30.3 2,000m 1:52.5 245 1144 25
7:31.1 2,000m 1:52.7 244 1139 25
7:30.7 2,000m 1:52.6 245 1142 25
7:29.4 2,000m 1:52.3 247 1149 25
7:17.6 2,000m 1:49.4 267 1219 26
For me the projected finish is helping much. I use watts as well as projected finish as these are much more precise compared to current split time. I know the most efficient way to row a distance is a flat pace. So I use projected time to stay on a flat pace throughout and turn the screw at the end if something is left. As projected time equals the target PB in that case, it is very likely that nothing is left in the tank for a sprint, if target is set overconfident as usual
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.0
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.0
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Congrats on the big PBRWAGR wrote: ↑May 22nd, 2023, 8:09 amThe worst enemy on the erg is surely the "projected finish" screen on the PM. It plays mind games and I spend the whole first 80% of a row going too fast as I don't want to "fall behind" even though I know that it's skewed and one always makes up the seconds in the last 10/20% of the row.
This means that I often fail time trials because I go out too hard and row ahead of PB pace for the first half of the piece, leaving nothing left in the tank. This happened on Friday when I HD'd a 10k PB attempt at 8987 meters (pathetic).
Today, I focused on staying calm and staying moderate. Ironically, the mental reset meant I rowed the first 9k at basically the same splits as my failed attempt on Friday, and had plenty left in the tank for a fast final k. This smashed both my PB and my target PB (by >20" and >10" respectively). I'm also happy to say I have comfortably broken 37.30 for the 10k. I guess the next stop would be sub 37, but that is miles away...
37:19.1 10,000m 1:51.9 249 1158 25
7:30.3 2,000m 1:52.5 245 1144 25
7:31.1 2,000m 1:52.7 244 1139 25
7:30.7 2,000m 1:52.6 245 1142 25
7:29.4 2,000m 1:52.3 247 1149 25
7:17.6 2,000m 1:49.4 267 1219 26
6'2" 52yo
Alex
Recent 2k - 7:19
All time 2k - 6:50.2 (LW)
Alex
Recent 2k - 7:19
All time 2k - 6:50.2 (LW)
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Great work and I love you are already talking about the next milestone on sub 37. This was paced well and you had a lot in the tank with the strong finish. This shows how different both your mental and physical being can be on any given day.RWAGR wrote: ↑May 22nd, 2023, 8:09 amThe worst enemy on the erg is surely the "projected finish" screen on the PM. It plays mind games and I spend the whole first 80% of a row going too fast as I don't want to "fall behind" even though I know that it's skewed and one always makes up the seconds in the last 10/20% of the row.
This means that I often fail time trials because I go out too hard and row ahead of PB pace for the first half of the piece, leaving nothing left in the tank. This happened on Friday when I HD'd a 10k PB attempt at 8987 meters (pathetic).
Today, I focused on staying calm and staying moderate. Ironically, the mental reset meant I rowed the first 9k at basically the same splits as my failed attempt on Friday, and had plenty left in the tank for a fast final k. This smashed both my PB and my target PB (by >20" and >10" respectively). I'm also happy to say I have comfortably broken 37.30 for the 10k. I guess the next stop would be sub 37, but that is miles away...
37:19.1 10,000m 1:51.9 249 1158 25
7:30.3 2,000m 1:52.5 245 1144 25
7:31.1 2,000m 1:52.7 244 1139 25
7:30.7 2,000m 1:52.6 245 1142 25
7:29.4 2,000m 1:52.3 247 1149 25
7:17.6 2,000m 1:49.4 267 1219 26
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Congratulations on a great row.RWAGR wrote: ↑May 22nd, 2023, 8:09 amThe worst enemy on the erg is surely the "projected finish" screen on the PM. It plays mind games and I spend the whole first 80% of a row going too fast as I don't want to "fall behind" even though I know that it's skewed and one always makes up the seconds in the last 10/20% of the row.
Today, I focused on staying calm and staying moderate. Ironically, the mental reset meant I rowed the first 9k at basically the same splits as my failed attempt on Friday, and had plenty left in the tank for a fast final k.
37:19.1 10,000m 1:51.9 249 1158 25
7:30.3 2,000m 1:52.5 245 1144 25
7:31.1 2,000m 1:52.7 244 1139 25
7:30.7 2,000m 1:52.6 245 1142 25
7:29.4 2,000m 1:52.3 247 1149 25
7:17.6 2,000m 1:49.4 267 1219 26
Clearly the approach helped, you were 2.1S down on a 37:30 at 6k, so managed to banish this from your mind. On the earlier attempt, were you targeting a projected finish of 37:40 or 37:30? If the latter, you were probably a bit more conservative this time. I am amazed how much our minds lie to us. On a 5k race I slowed in some splits 9S below target pace around the 4k mark convinced that I would be luckty to finish and that even this was not sustainable. In the event I finished with splits 4S below the target, so no where near as close to death's door as my mind was reporting!
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Great stuff Rob, and I really love that last 2k. Don't underestimate how far off sub 37 is. You are capable of surprising yourself.RWAGR wrote: ↑May 22nd, 2023, 8:09 amThe worst enemy on the erg is surely the "projected finish" screen on the PM. It plays mind games and I spend the whole first 80% of a row going too fast as I don't want to "fall behind" even though I know that it's skewed and one always makes up the seconds in the last 10/20% of the row.
This means that I often fail time trials because I go out too hard and row ahead of PB pace for the first half of the piece, leaving nothing left in the tank. This happened on Friday when I HD'd a 10k PB attempt at 8987 meters (pathetic).
Today, I focused on staying calm and staying moderate. Ironically, the mental reset meant I rowed the first 9k at basically the same splits as my failed attempt on Friday, and had plenty left in the tank for a fast final k. This smashed both my PB and my target PB (by >20" and >10" respectively). I'm also happy to say I have comfortably broken 37.30 for the 10k. I guess the next stop would be sub 37, but that is miles away...
37:19.1 10,000m 1:51.9 249 1158 25
7:30.3 2,000m 1:52.5 245 1144 25
7:31.1 2,000m 1:52.7 244 1139 25
7:30.7 2,000m 1:52.6 245 1142 25
7:29.4 2,000m 1:52.3 247 1149 25
7:17.6 2,000m 1:49.4 267 1219 26
Think of it this way, 2.2 seconds off each 2k split up to 8k isn't too ridiculous a suggestion with a finish like that, but you'd getting down to virtually 37:10.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
excellent time and congratulations on the big PR!RWAGR wrote: ↑May 22nd, 2023, 8:09 amThe worst enemy on the erg is surely the "projected finish" screen on the PM. It plays mind games and I spend the whole first 80% of a row going too fast as I don't want to "fall behind" even though I know that it's skewed and one always makes up the seconds in the last 10/20% of the row.
This means that I often fail time trials because I go out too hard and row ahead of PB pace for the first half of the piece, leaving nothing left in the tank. This happened on Friday when I HD'd a 10k PB attempt at 8987 meters (pathetic).
Today, I focused on staying calm and staying moderate. Ironically, the mental reset meant I rowed the first 9k at basically the same splits as my failed attempt on Friday, and had plenty left in the tank for a fast final k. This smashed both my PB and my target PB (by >20" and >10" respectively). I'm also happy to say I have comfortably broken 37.30 for the 10k. I guess the next stop would be sub 37, but that is miles away...
37:19.1 10,000m 1:51.9 249 1158 25
7:30.3 2,000m 1:52.5 245 1144 25
7:31.1 2,000m 1:52.7 244 1139 25
7:30.7 2,000m 1:52.6 245 1142 25
7:29.4 2,000m 1:52.3 247 1149 25
7:17.6 2,000m 1:49.4 267 1219 26
M/52/6ft/86kg
took up rowing during pandemic
500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m
took up rowing during pandemic
500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Thanks so much lads as always!
Rob, 40, 6'1", 188 lbs. Potomac, MD, USA (albeit English-Australian originally).
2k: 6:45.4 (2023)
5k: 17:46.7 (2024)
30': 8,182 (2024)
10k: 36:49.9 (2024)
60’: 15,967 (2024)
HM: 1:20:27.4 (2024)
FM: 2:48:21.4 (2024)
100k: 7:43:28.2 (2024)
2k: 6:45.4 (2023)
5k: 17:46.7 (2024)
30': 8,182 (2024)
10k: 36:49.9 (2024)
60’: 15,967 (2024)
HM: 1:20:27.4 (2024)
FM: 2:48:21.4 (2024)
100k: 7:43:28.2 (2024)
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
I managed a PB on my 10k today. Have managed a new PB each week for the last month starting at 42.23 on the 2nd May and hitting 39.49 today. Wasn’t really attempting a time trial and kept it steady at 24spm throughout so pretty chuffed with the progress. I’m definitely benefiting from training on fewer days a week whilst keeping the volume up.
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Weight:80kg (depending on what I’ve had for breakfast)
Height: 5ft 11 ish.
PBs: 2,000m 7:10.4 (1:47.6) 10,000m 39:49.1 (1:59.4)
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
breaking that 2.00/500 for a 10k is a big milestone - congratulations and I'm sure there's more to come. well donejodyleb wrote: ↑May 29th, 2023, 5:05 pmI managed a PB on my 10k today. Have managed a new PB each week for the last month starting at 42.23 on the 2nd May and hitting 39.49 today. Wasn’t really attempting a time trial and kept it steady at 24spm throughout so pretty chuffed with the progress. I’m definitely benefiting from training on fewer days a week whilst keeping the volume up.
M/52/6ft/86kg
took up rowing during pandemic
500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m
took up rowing during pandemic
500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Agree to Nick, nice milestone reached, and not even tried to get a big PB, so definitely more to comejodyleb wrote: ↑May 29th, 2023, 5:05 pmI managed a PB on my 10k today. Have managed a new PB each week for the last month starting at 42.23 on the 2nd May and hitting 39.49 today. Wasn’t really attempting a time trial and kept it steady at 24spm throughout so pretty chuffed with the progress. I’m definitely benefiting from training on fewer days a week whilst keeping the volume up.
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.0
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.0
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
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breaking that 2.00/500 for a 10k is a big milestone - congratulations and I'm sure there's more to come. well done
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breaking that 2.00/500 for a 10k is a big milestone - congratulations and I'm sure there's more to come. well done
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Thank you! Appreciate that
Age:45
Weight:80kg (depending on what I’ve had for breakfast)
Height: 5ft 11 ish.
PBs: 2,000m 7:10.4 (1:47.6) 10,000m 39:49.1 (1:59.4)
Logbook ID: 1383620
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Weight:80kg (depending on what I’ve had for breakfast)
Height: 5ft 11 ish.
PBs: 2,000m 7:10.4 (1:47.6) 10,000m 39:49.1 (1:59.4)
Logbook ID: 1383620
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
breaking that 2.00/500 for a 10k is a big milestone - congratulations and I'm sure there's more to come. well done
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Thank you! Appreciate that
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Thank you!
Age:45
Weight:80kg (depending on what I’ve had for breakfast)
Height: 5ft 11 ish.
PBs: 2,000m 7:10.4 (1:47.6) 10,000m 39:49.1 (1:59.4)
Logbook ID: 1383620
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Weight:80kg (depending on what I’ve had for breakfast)
Height: 5ft 11 ish.
PBs: 2,000m 7:10.4 (1:47.6) 10,000m 39:49.1 (1:59.4)
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Great progress and a good milestone to knock off.....congratsjodyleb wrote: ↑May 29th, 2023, 5:05 pmI managed a PB on my 10k today. Have managed a new PB each week for the last month starting at 42.23 on the 2nd May and hitting 39.49 today. Wasn’t really attempting a time trial and kept it steady at 24spm throughout so pretty chuffed with the progress. I’m definitely benefiting from training on fewer days a week whilst keeping the volume up.
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Recent 2k - 7:19
All time 2k - 6:50.2 (LW)
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Thankswinniewinser wrote: ↑May 30th, 2023, 3:20 amGreat progress and a good milestone to knock off.....congratsjodyleb wrote: ↑May 29th, 2023, 5:05 pmI managed a PB on my 10k today. Have managed a new PB each week for the last month starting at 42.23 on the 2nd May and hitting 39.49 today. Wasn’t really attempting a time trial and kept it steady at 24spm throughout so pretty chuffed with the progress. I’m definitely benefiting from training on fewer days a week whilst keeping the volume up.
Age:45
Weight:80kg (depending on what I’ve had for breakfast)
Height: 5ft 11 ish.
PBs: 2,000m 7:10.4 (1:47.6) 10,000m 39:49.1 (1:59.4)
Logbook ID: 1383620
Team RowAlong
Weight:80kg (depending on what I’ve had for breakfast)
Height: 5ft 11 ish.
PBs: 2,000m 7:10.4 (1:47.6) 10,000m 39:49.1 (1:59.4)
Logbook ID: 1383620
Team RowAlong