Can Somone Analyse This Video Clip?

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » January 25th, 2006, 8:50 pm

SPI is not a measure of power.<br /><br />Power is measured by Watts, and shown by the Pace on the monitor.

[old] PaulH · Post by **[old] PaulH** » January 25th, 2006, 11:48 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Jan 25 2006, 07:50 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>SPI is not a measure of power.<br /><br />Power is measured by Watts, and shown by the Pace on the monitor. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Very good, John, SPI is not a measure of power. It's also not a measure of temperature, or density, or nationality.<br /><br />On the other hand, used correctly, some people find it a useful aid for restricted rate training.<br /><br />Cheers, Paul

[old] Xeno · Post by **[old] Xeno** » January 26th, 2006, 4:07 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(csabour @ Jan 24 2006, 10:03 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>i have a feeling that one side of my body is inferior to the other at the finish of my stroke... can anyone detect this here? coach said that it's because of rowing too much starboard.<br /><br />its a minute long.<br /><a href='http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1489840405' target='_blank'>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 405</a><br /><br />edit<br /> any critique is appreciated, thanks. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Hi,<br />Who is your coach and what is his background?<br />How old are you?<br />I look forward to hearing back from you.<br />XENO

[old] Xeno · Post by **[old] Xeno** » January 26th, 2006, 4:09 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(csabour @ Jan 24 2006, 10:03 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>i have a feeling that one side of my body is inferior to the other at the finish of my stroke... can anyone detect this here? coach said that it's because of rowing too much starboard.<br /><br />its a minute long.<br /><a href='http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1489840405' target='_blank'>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 405</a><br /><br />edit<br /> any critique is appreciated, thanks. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Hi again,<br />AND what other issues does your coach mention to you about your stroke?<br />All the best,<br />XENO

[old] DIESEL · Post by **[old] DIESEL** » January 26th, 2006, 4:15 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Xeno @ Jan 26 2006, 03:09 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(csabour @ Jan 24 2006, 10:03 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>i have a feeling that one side of my body is inferior to the other at the finish of my stroke... can anyone detect this here? coach said that it's because of rowing too much starboard.<br /><br />its a minute long.<br /><a href='http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1489840405' target='_blank'>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 405</a><br /><br />edit<br /> any critique is appreciated, thanks. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Hi again,<br />AND what other issues does your coach mention to you about your stroke?<br />All the best,<br />XENO <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />wow, Xeno about to break down your stroke. Obviously, I'm jealous. <br /><br />Hey Xeno, long time no speak. Hope everything is well. Give my regards to Luis. <br />School has spiraled out of control and have been very, very remiss in my email duties. <br /><br />take care big guy, <br /><br />el diesel

[old] dmhayden · Post by **[old] dmhayden** » January 26th, 2006, 4:32 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Citroen @ Jan 25 2006, 08:33 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(RowtheRockies @ Jan 25 2006, 11:46 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>What does 12SPI stand for as in Ranger's post? Strokes per ? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><b>S</b>troke <b>P</b>ower <b>I</b>ndex<br /><br />You take the watts shown on the PM2/PM3 and divide it by SPM.<br />So 200W @ 20SPM is 10SPI, likewise 280W @ 28SPM = 10SPI.<br /><br />There's an online calculator for it at <a href='http://www.machars.net/spi.php#spi' target='_blank'>http://www.machars.net/spi.php#spi</a> <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Watts measure energy per unit of time (joules per second). SPM is obviously strokes per minute. So the SPI (watts / SPM) is a measure of energy per stroke.

[old] csabour · Post by **[old] csabour** » January 26th, 2006, 10:33 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Xeno @ Jan 26 2006, 03:07 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Hi,<br />Who is your coach and what is his background?<br />How old are you?<br />AND what other issues does your coach mention to you about your stroke?<br />All the best,<br />XENO <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Xeno...<br />I'm 17, i row for GCI in ottawa, canada.<br />My coach's name is Don Leclaire. He is an excellent coach and has brought us a long way. He retired as an oarsman late in his twenties. He rowed in Brockville, Ontario all of his junior career. He won schoolboys and henley multiple times... those are excellent regattas. He coached in the states for many universities as part-time job, he is an engineer.<br /><br />Since the fall we have been focusing on getting better as a crew. this is the second season he worked with us and we have been working on slide consistancy, and no pauses at the catch and a better ratio. <br /><br />Honestly, i must admit, this is a crappy ass video of me. i put it on for experimental sake, i was warming up and frankly didnt care about technical rowing... I also didnt know i was filmed.<br /><br />The issues he is working on me personnally is trying to get more compression without leaving the footstops with the heels as little as possible... On the erg the benefit is less than on the water... but let's not forget we arn't training to be good ergers... we want speed in the water. So in a nutshell, he is trying to get me more flexible.... <br /><br />This week we are going to film another practice with many more of us... i can post them if you'd like.

[old] jfo · Post by **[old] jfo** » January 27th, 2006, 6:17 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(csabour @ Jan 27 2006, 04:33 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><br />This week we are going to film another practice with many more of us... i can post them if you'd like. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Please do that.<br />I find it very interesting to see and to see other peoples comments.<br />

[old] Alissa · Post by **[old] Alissa** » January 27th, 2006, 2:15 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(csabour @ Jan 26 2006, 06:33 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>This week we are going to film another practice with many more of us... i can post them if you'd like.[right] </td></tr></table><br />If you can, you might try for more of a side view...<br />

[old] ljwagner · Post by **[old] ljwagner** » January 27th, 2006, 2:58 pm

With only a few exceptions, don't row any different on the erg than on the water, escpecially on the drive. Its called "building good habits". The only thing that has to be different is in your hands with a different size grip, no worry about water/blade response, and you have no stroke oar to watch for correct timing. But try to imagine each, even on the C2.<br /><br /> If you can be conscious of your own technique, then whenever a coach can be heard, you can consider if his comments also apply to you and your boat.<br /><br />

[old] Xeno · Post by **[old] Xeno** » February 1st, 2006, 12:14 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(csabour @ Jan 24 2006, 10:03 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>i have a feeling that one side of my body is inferior to the other at the finish of my stroke... can anyone detect this here? coach said that it's because of rowing too much starboard.<br /><br />its a minute long.<br /><a href='http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1489840405' target='_blank'>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 405</a><br /><br />edit<br /> any critique is appreciated, thanks. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Hello <br />I am sorry it took me some time to get back to you.<br />In order to truely see whether you are leaning to one side your camera angle needs to be absolutely inline with the rowing machine.<br />One thing to take care of is your consistency holding the handle. You have to make sure that your hands are equidistant from the center of the handle. I do notice that you do not keep your arms straight during the leg drive. When this is the case you limit your leg drive to what the arms can pull. The arms are far inferior in power than the legs. I notice that you use the back simultanously with the draw of the arms. Canadians tend to do that, especially women. My rowing stroke is more contrasted, leg drive arms stay straight. The connection between the straight arms and the final phase of the leg drive is the opening of the back swing. From the limited view I have of your rowing, make sure that you sit on the first half of the seat on your hip bones also called "sitting bones". You are immediately going to feel that you are sitting up more and taller. When using a mirror directly infront of you make sure that your head does not change elevation even though you are swining the upper body. When you pose at the finish check that your forearms are parallel to the ground and that your wrists and back of hand are in line with the ground and forearms. The handle is set against the sternum right below the chest line. The top of the shoulders are as far away from your ear lobes as possible. This enable the lat muscles to contract and the elbows to move the hand back. If your elbows point down to the ground at the finish you are using the biceps and the forearms instead of the lat muscles.<br />I hope this description is of advantage to you.<br />All the best,<br />XENO

[old] Byron Drachman · Post by **[old] Byron Drachman** » February 1st, 2006, 11:28 am

Xeno's training DVD's demonstrate those points very nicely. See the link in his signature. Everybody, including me, who gets them says how good they are and how much fun they are. Xeno uses slides but you can use the DVD's without slides, with an obvious adjustment in one place.<br /><br />Byron

[old] jfo · Post by **[old] jfo** » February 2nd, 2006, 7:20 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Xeno @ Feb 1 2006, 06:14 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>If your elbows point down to the ground at the finish you are using the biceps and the forearms instead of the lat muscles.[right] <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Hmm...I have heard that before but I don't quite understand it.<br />Where should the elbows point to if not to the ground? To the sides? Or backwards? If so then in which angle to vertical?

[old] Alissa · Post by **[old] Alissa** » February 2nd, 2006, 9:56 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(jfo @ Feb 2 2006, 03:20 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Where should the elbows point to if not to the ground? To the sides? Or backwards? If so then in which angle to vertical? [right] </td></tr></table><br /><br />Back. Take a look at Xeno's forearm in his avatar. Also, here's a portion of the image illustrating his technique DVD:<br /><img src='http://i.pbase.com/g3/22/464422/3/55609 ... e1CROP.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />which seems to be showing the same thing. (You can see the complete image "<a href='http://www.gorow.com/indoor_rowing_DVD.htm' target='_blank'>here</a>"--scroll down to DVD3). <br /><br />HTH,<br /><br />Alissa

[old] jfo · Post by **[old] jfo** » February 2nd, 2006, 4:09 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Alissa @ Feb 2 2006, 03:56 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Back. Take a look at Xeno's forearm in his avatar. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Ok. Great,h Alissa. Thanks.<br />That's pretty much the same as I do

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