New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by ericMX73 » May 2nd, 2023, 9:43 am

RayOfSunshine wrote:
May 1st, 2023, 4:47 pm

Nice work!!

See you got a little loose in the final 3 intervals. Tighten it up. :lol:

Heck, my goal is to complete one this season.
Thanks! :D

Enjoy the new season and journey to your goals.
GO BIG OR GO HOME!
56 HW, 🇺🇸 2024 season:
500m 1:43.2, 1k 3:37.4, HM 1:27:02.6, FM 2:58.42.3, 50k 3:38.59.4, 100K 8:16:55.9

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by ericMX73 » May 2nd, 2023, 9:59 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
May 2nd, 2023, 3:56 am


First of all, big congratulations on going sub three hours. That's a big milestone. The OCD effort is excellent as it's a lot easier to achieve it using time rather than distance, especially as I assume there were rough moments in there?

If there weren't, then you can definitely go faster :wink:
Thanks mate! :D I calculated the splits to be every 4690 meters or ~20 min because that is how I've been training. Much easier to accomplish these long rows in smaller 20 min bites. Ya I could have "emptied the tank" at the end but really wanted to see if I could keep my HR under 160bpm. No real issues to report this time. Although, last time (January) had severe ache with the sit bones in the last 30 min.
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500m 1:43.2, 1k 3:37.4, HM 1:27:02.6, FM 2:58.42.3, 50k 3:38.59.4, 100K 8:16:55.9

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » May 2nd, 2023, 11:11 am

Sakly wrote:
May 2nd, 2023, 9:04 am
Thank you much, Keith! Appreciate your words 😊

17:19/17:23 is quite far away, but I will try my best, mates 😎
I agree with Keith. I took off 35 seconds off my 10k PB in one go, so don't underestimate what you're capable of
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Sakly » May 2nd, 2023, 11:28 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
May 2nd, 2023, 11:11 am
Sakly wrote:
May 2nd, 2023, 9:04 am
Thank you much, Keith! Appreciate your words 😊

17:19/17:23 is quite far away, but I will try my best, mates 😎
I agree with Keith. I took off 35 seconds off my 10k PB in one go, so don't underestimate what you're capable of
I need much preparation to get such huge step next time!
The season just started and as I said, I will try my best 💪💪😄
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by DavidA » May 4th, 2023, 2:58 pm

ericMX73 wrote:
May 1st, 2023, 2:41 pm
Just set a new sub 3 hour PB for the full marathon this morning. That went smoother than expected.

Splits (OCD style :D )
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
2:58:42.3 42,195m 2:07.0 171 887 23 150
19:51.8 4,690m 2:07.0 171 887 23 141
19:51.8 4,690m 2:07.0 171 887 23 144
19:51.8 4,690m 2:07.0 171 887 23 147
19:51.8 4,690m 2:07.0 171 887 23 149
19:51.8 4,690m 2:07.0 171 887 23 152
19:51.6 4,690m 2:07.0 171 887 23 153
19:51.8 4,690m 2:07.0 171 887 24 155
19:51.7 4,690m 2:07.0 171 887 24 157
19:48.2 4,675m 2:07.0 171 886 23 158
Congratulations!
Completing a marathon is a big deal, and beating 3 h is great!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by robhely » May 4th, 2023, 10:01 pm

Had a crack at the 500m and managed to take 3 seconds off my previous PB, so I was pretty happy about that and inching closer to my goal of 1:30. I'm in the lightweight 50 - 59 category, so happy to finally be in the 1:30s - even if it's just sneaking in at 1:39.7! Also, I've only been on a C2 for about 7 weeks, so can't expect too much too soon. I reckon I'll have to keep training quite hard to get to 1:30 - if that's even possible at 70kg.

Not sure how to get my stats up, is that a case of inserting a USB into the PM5?

I took a pic and can see that I was definitely flagging:

1:39.7 40 161

1:36.5 40 142
1:36.5 43 160
1:38.5 40 167
1:42.0 41 169
1:44.5 37 169

Rating up to ~40 felt ugly, technique was probably pretty average. Was a bit fatigued from 7000m the day before, so reckon I could do better. I've had my heart rate up to 182 on longer rows, so don't feel like I was close enough to my max there either.

That got me a #1 in the rankings for my age group for 2024 , but that'll be short lived as there are only 5 entries for the season so far :D
M/53/179cm/74.8kg
started rowing late 2022

PBs
1k: 3:26.2
2k: 7:09.9
5k: 18:46.0
30min: 7,847m
10k: 38:57.0
60min: 15,060m
HM: 1:26:14.1

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » May 5th, 2023, 12:42 am

robhely wrote:
May 4th, 2023, 10:01 pm
Had a crack at the 500m and managed to take 3 seconds off my previous PB, so I was pretty happy about that and inching closer to my goal of 1:30. I'm in the lightweight 50 - 59 category, so happy to finally be in the 1:30s - even if it's just sneaking in at 1:39.7! Also, I've only been on a C2 for about 7 weeks, so can't expect too much too soon. I reckon I'll have to keep training quite hard to get to 1:30 - if that's even possible at 70kg.

Not sure how to get my stats up, is that a case of inserting a USB into the PM5?

I took a pic and can see that I was definitely flagging:

1:39.7 40 161

1:36.5 40 142
1:36.5 43 160
1:38.5 40 167
1:42.0 41 169
1:44.5 37 169

Rating up to ~40 felt ugly, technique was probably pretty average. Was a bit fatigued from 7000m the day before, so reckon I could do better. I've had my heart rate up to 182 on longer rows, so don't feel like I was close enough to my max there either.

That got me a #1 in the rankings for my age group for 2024 , but that'll be short lived as there are only 5 entries for the season so far :D
Well done Rob. That's a great result for a LWT especially with such little experience on the erg.

I post my stats from the C2 logbook: just copy and paste the workout. I assume you've got a logbook?
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

Instagram: stuwenman

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by robhely » May 5th, 2023, 1:10 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
May 5th, 2023, 12:42 am

Well done Rob. That's a great result for a LWT especially with such little experience on the erg.

I post my stats from the C2 logbook: just copy and paste the workout. I assume you've got a logbook?
Thanks!

I've posted my best rows on the "log" page, I'm not sure that is the same as a logbook? It's just the distances, times and pace, not the breakdowns. To get the full stats I see from the C2 I think there's an additional step, such as using a USB? Sorry, very new to all this.
M/53/179cm/74.8kg
started rowing late 2022

PBs
1k: 3:26.2
2k: 7:09.9
5k: 18:46.0
30min: 7,847m
10k: 38:57.0
60min: 15,060m
HM: 1:26:14.1

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Sakly » May 5th, 2023, 1:42 am

robhely wrote:
May 5th, 2023, 1:10 am
Dangerscouse wrote:
May 5th, 2023, 12:42 am

Well done Rob. That's a great result for a LWT especially with such little experience on the erg.

I post my stats from the C2 logbook: just copy and paste the workout. I assume you've got a logbook?
Thanks!

I've posted my best rows on the "log" page, I'm not sure that is the same as a logbook? It's just the distances, times and pace, not the breakdowns. To get the full stats I see from the C2 I think there's an additional step, such as using a USB? Sorry, very new to all this.
Agree to Stu, very good result 👌

Are you using ergdata when rowing? Doing so enables you to directly sync with your logbook account on c2 server and you don't have to transfer the data manually. You will get some additional data, like HR and stroke data, and you can copy your splits from your logbook in this case 😉
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by robhely » May 5th, 2023, 3:34 am

Sakly wrote:
May 5th, 2023, 1:42 am

Are you using ergdata when rowing? Doing so enables you to directly sync with your logbook account on c2 server and you don't have to transfer the data manually. You will get some additional data, like HR and stroke data, and you can copy your splits from your logbook in this case 😉
No, I'm not using the ergdata app, but I just watched some videos on how to set it up and I'll give it a try - it looks like a great feature. I'm really interested in that additional stroke length data as well, it could be a way to refine my technique.
M/53/179cm/74.8kg
started rowing late 2022

PBs
1k: 3:26.2
2k: 7:09.9
5k: 18:46.0
30min: 7,847m
10k: 38:57.0
60min: 15,060m
HM: 1:26:14.1

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Sakly » May 5th, 2023, 3:37 am

robhely wrote:
May 5th, 2023, 3:34 am
Sakly wrote:
May 5th, 2023, 1:42 am

Are you using ergdata when rowing? Doing so enables you to directly sync with your logbook account on c2 server and you don't have to transfer the data manually. You will get some additional data, like HR and stroke data, and you can copy your splits from your logbook in this case 😉
No, I'm not using the ergdata app, but I just watched some videos on how to set it up and I'll give it a try - it looks like a great feature. I'm really interested in that additional stroke length data as well, it could be a way to refine my technique.
I think stroke length can only be seen on the fly, not synced to your logbook. But yes, much data can be seen during the workout, and you can setup PM5 and ergdata to show different metrics at the same time, which is an advantage. Auto sync feature best of all, as it is so easy to push your workout to the logbook.
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by robhely » May 5th, 2023, 4:11 am

Sakly wrote:
May 5th, 2023, 3:37 am

I think stroke length can only be seen on the fly, not synced to your logbook. But yes, much data can be seen during the workout, and you can setup PM5 and ergdata to show different metrics at the same time, which is an advantage. Auto sync feature best of all, as it is so easy to push your workout to the logbook.
I just had a go at this and it's very confusing as there seems to be 2 different apps for the C2, one called "ErgData" and one called ErgData for PM3 PM4, which is a bit older. The older version of the app appears to have the sync function, but the new one does not. I can connect the new one using bluetooth and all the real time data is working, but it doesn't have drive length data like the older app or any obvious ability to sync data from the C2 to the logbook.

With the older app, it appears to be PM5 compatible, but doesn't seem to have BT connectivity. Is the "C2 cable" just a regular iphone cable with USB on one end? Do I need to use that to sync data on my C2 with my logbook?
M/53/179cm/74.8kg
started rowing late 2022

PBs
1k: 3:26.2
2k: 7:09.9
5k: 18:46.0
30min: 7,847m
10k: 38:57.0
60min: 15,060m
HM: 1:26:14.1

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Sakly » May 5th, 2023, 4:49 am

robhely wrote:
May 5th, 2023, 4:11 am
Sakly wrote:
May 5th, 2023, 3:37 am

I think stroke length can only be seen on the fly, not synced to your logbook. But yes, much data can be seen during the workout, and you can setup PM5 and ergdata to show different metrics at the same time, which is an advantage. Auto sync feature best of all, as it is so easy to push your workout to the logbook.
I just had a go at this and it's very confusing as there seems to be 2 different apps for the C2, one called "ErgData" and one called ErgData for PM3 PM4, which is a bit older. The older version of the app appears to have the sync function, but the new one does not. I can connect the new one using bluetooth and all the real time data is working, but it doesn't have drive length data like the older app or any obvious ability to sync data from the C2 to the logbook.

With the older app, it appears to be PM5 compatible, but doesn't seem to have BT connectivity. Is the "C2 cable" just a regular iphone cable with USB on one end? Do I need to use that to sync data on my C2 with my logbook?
Once you have logged into your logbook account with ergdata (use the new version for PM5), you should see the latest entries of your logbook, when selecting the tab "logbook".
When you programmed a row and you have performed it, then use the upper left three-dots menu and select "save and..." - show logbook. This will trigger the sync/upload. At least this is how I do it.
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Kerry1960 » May 5th, 2023, 5:07 am

And once you've got the Web based account set up the account will receive data for each workout you do.from the app. Detailed data can be downloaded for each stroke within the workout in various formats Inc. csv. From the Web not the app
M64 6ft 2, 1.90m,14st 4lbs (200), 90 kg, NW England
First erg Jan 2023
PBs 500m 1:34.4, 1k 3:30.9, 2k 7:32.3
5k 20:09, 6k 24:30, 30m 7310m, 30r20 7133m

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by robhely » May 5th, 2023, 5:28 am

Sakly wrote:
May 5th, 2023, 4:49 am
Once you have logged into your logbook account with ergdata (use the new version for PM5), you should see the latest entries of your logbook, when selecting the tab "logbook".
When you programmed a row and you have performed it, then use the upper left three-dots menu and select "save and..." - show logbook. This will trigger the sync/upload. At least this is how I do it.
Yep, makes sense. I wanted to retrospectively transfer all the data from my C2 to the logbook, which I was able to do using a USB and the Concept2 Utility app on the Mac. From now on I'll use the Ergdata App on the phone and get it to sync with my logbook.

The only thing I don't think I can get with the new version of the app is the stroke length data that the old version had.
M/53/179cm/74.8kg
started rowing late 2022

PBs
1k: 3:26.2
2k: 7:09.9
5k: 18:46.0
30min: 7,847m
10k: 38:57.0
60min: 15,060m
HM: 1:26:14.1

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