Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by iain » April 22nd, 2023, 10:50 am

Dom82 wrote:
April 22nd, 2023, 6:47 am
Week 4 completed:
the short intervals session felt mouch tougher than the 6 x 500 I did last week.
1ks are much harder (or slower) than 500s. 1k is a long way for a short interval while it is possible to rate up in 500s. On the standard PP, 4 x 1k r5' is reckoned to be 4S/500m slower than 8 x 500 r3:30. At the pace Pete was doing when the plan started, that was >13% more Watts.
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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by mitchel674 » April 22nd, 2023, 10:52 am

Dom82 wrote:
April 22nd, 2023, 6:47 am
Week 4 completed:

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The start of the week wasn't great at all: the two 6500m sessions were harder than expected with heart rate going clearly too high. Also the short intervals session felt mouch tougher than the 6 x 500 I did last week.

The two optional sessions were another story and I felt much better in both of them, as heart rate shows. Even without focusing on heart rate, in the first two steady state sessions I was just glad they were over, while in the last two I would have gladly rowed some more. I don't know the reason why similar sessions feel completely different: I have also been sleeping badly for the last couple of days so I would have expected the opposite result.

For next week, I am not sure if I will do the optional sessions, as in the last few days leg muscles are starting to feel quite stiff during the day.
Listen to your body. If you feel you need a bit more rest, opt out of one or both optional rows.

If you are just feeling stiff, perhaps consider adding some yoga or pilates and focus on your legs and lower back.
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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by Dom82 » April 22nd, 2023, 11:13 am

iain wrote:
April 22nd, 2023, 10:50 am

1ks are much harder (or slower) than 500s.
It definitely felt like that :D
Next week 4 x 800m / 2min rest at the same pace, with last interval going faster than that :?
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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by winniewinser » April 23rd, 2023, 2:50 am

Slightly derailed this weekend with a back muscle issue 🙁🤬. You know you're getting old when you get up in the morning, raise your arms and pull something in your back 😭.

Normally I would try and row and make it worse but I rested yesterday but it still feels terrible. No sharp pain just very stiff/achy. Sleep wasn't good as a result.

Very disappointing weekend 😔
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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by Sakly » April 23rd, 2023, 3:25 am

winniewinser wrote:
April 23rd, 2023, 2:50 am
Slightly derailed this weekend with a back muscle issue 🙁🤬. You know you're getting old when you get up in the morning, raise your arms and pull something in your back 😭.

Normally I would try and row and make it worse but I rested yesterday but it still feels terrible. No sharp pain just very stiff/achy. Sleep wasn't good as a result.

Very disappointing weekend 😔
No good news 😏
Hope it sorts out fast ✊✊
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1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by winniewinser » April 23rd, 2023, 4:18 am

Sakly wrote:
April 23rd, 2023, 3:25 am
winniewinser wrote:
April 23rd, 2023, 2:50 am
Slightly derailed this weekend with a back muscle issue 🙁🤬. You know you're getting old when you get up in the morning, raise your arms and pull something in your back 😭.

Normally I would try and row and make it worse but I rested yesterday but it still feels terrible. No sharp pain just very stiff/achy. Sleep wasn't good as a result.

Very disappointing weekend 😔
No good news 😏
Hope it sorts out fast ✊✊
🙏

Disruptions to training are so annoying 🤬

Will try to ice it today and some more stretching as sitting around didn't help
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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by Dangerscouse » April 23rd, 2023, 7:25 am

winniewinser wrote:
April 23rd, 2023, 2:50 am
Slightly derailed this weekend with a back muscle issue 🙁🤬. You know you're getting old when you get up in the morning, raise your arms and pull something in your back 😭.

Normally I would try and row and make it worse but I rested yesterday but it still feels terrible. No sharp pain just very stiff/achy. Sleep wasn't good as a result.

Very disappointing weekend 😔
That's bad news mate
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by RayOfSunshine » April 23rd, 2023, 9:06 am

winniewinser wrote:
April 23rd, 2023, 2:50 am
Slightly derailed this weekend with a back muscle issue 🙁🤬. You know you're getting old when you get up in the morning, raise your arms and pull something in your back 😭.

Normally I would try and row and make it worse but I rested yesterday but it still feels terrible. No sharp pain just very stiff/achy. Sleep wasn't good as a result.

Very disappointing weekend 😔
I hope you recover fully soon. I pulled something in my back last summer (just using a broom... that's old!!!) and it took months to recover.

Finally, someone told me to hang from a bar. Just hang. Not do pullups, but just hang there as long as I could (say 10 seconds), take a break, do it again. Over and over. Now, I do it all throughout the day.
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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by winniewinser » April 23rd, 2023, 12:32 pm

Dangerscouse wrote:
April 23rd, 2023, 7:25 am
That's bad news mate
RayOfSunshine wrote:
April 23rd, 2023, 9:06 am
I hope you recover fully soon. I pulled something in my back last summer (just using a broom... that's old!!!) and it took months to recover.

Finally, someone told me to hang from a bar. Just hang. Not do pullups, but just hang there as long as I could (say 10 seconds), take a break, do it again. Over and over. Now, I do it all throughout the day.
Thx chaps....after a terrible night's sleep it actually has eased a bit today so🤞
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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by winniewinser » April 26th, 2023, 3:53 am

Testing the back and this was actually OK. Bit achy afterwards but nothing worse.

BPP W4S1 - 6.5km

27:39.3 6,500m 2:07.6 168 879 19
5:32.2 1,300m 2:07.7 168 877 19
5:31.3 1,300m 2:07.4 169 882 19
5:31.8 1,300m 2:07.6 168 879 19
5:31.4 1,300m 2:07.4 169 881 19
5:32.5 1,300m 2:07.8 167 875 19

Will probably repeat this session all this week and then run through week 4 properly next week.
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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by Dangerscouse » April 26th, 2023, 8:25 am

winniewinser wrote:
April 26th, 2023, 3:53 am
Will probably repeat this session all this week and then run through week 4 properly next week.
Good idea
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by winniewinser » April 27th, 2023, 8:28 am

Another 6.5km......zzzzz

27:41.0 6,500m 2:07.7 168 877 18 144
5:32.2 1,300m 2:07.7 168 877 19 134
5:32.6 1,300m 2:07.9 167 875 18 143
5:32.1 1,300m 2:07.7 168 878 19 146
5:31.3 1,300m 2:07.4 169 882 20 150
5:32.9 1,300m 2:08.0 167 873 19 151
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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by Dangerscouse » April 27th, 2023, 10:25 am

winniewinser wrote:
April 27th, 2023, 8:28 am
Another 6.5km......zzzzz

27:41.0 6,500m 2:07.7 168 877 18 144
5:32.2 1,300m 2:07.7 168 877 19 134
5:32.6 1,300m 2:07.9 167 875 18 143
5:32.1 1,300m 2:07.7 168 878 19 146
5:31.3 1,300m 2:07.4 169 882 20 150
5:32.9 1,300m 2:08.0 167 873 19 151
Whats your 85% HR? I'm guessing it's not 150, so this is progress isn't it?
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by winniewinser » April 27th, 2023, 10:34 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
April 27th, 2023, 10:25 am
winniewinser wrote:
April 27th, 2023, 8:28 am
Another 6.5km......zzzzz

27:41.0 6,500m 2:07.7 168 877 18 144
5:32.2 1,300m 2:07.7 168 877 19 134
5:32.6 1,300m 2:07.9 167 875 18 143
5:32.1 1,300m 2:07.7 168 878 19 146
5:31.3 1,300m 2:07.4 169 882 20 150
5:32.9 1,300m 2:08.0 167 873 19 151
Whats your 85% HR? I'm guessing it's not 150, so this is progress isn't it?
159 is 85%.......it did jump to 155 at one point today briefly.

It's becoming easier but I have slowed it down to 2:08.

Watching my back this week but no adverse effects thus far. Doing more Yoga and stretching......have put the weights away again as I had started to do a few.
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Re: Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

Post by winniewinser » April 30th, 2023, 11:30 am

BPP W4S1 6.5km 🎯 2:08

HR was better controlled today...nothing over 149 👍

27:37.7 6,500m 2:07.5 169 880 19 143
5:29.7 1,300m 2:06.8 172 890 20 138
5:31.5 1,300m 2:07.5 169 881 20 142
5:31.7 1,300m 2:07.5 169 880 20 144
5:31.9 1,300m 2:07.6 168 879 20 147
5:32.9 1,300m 2:08.0 167 873 20 148
6'2" 52yo
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All time 2k - 6:50.2 (LW)

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