Another newbie

[Kerry1960]

Thanks

[Kerry1960]

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
22:42.6 5,000m 2:16.2 138 776 25
4:34.6 1,000m 2:17.3 135 765 26
4:36.9 1,000m 2:18.4 132 753 25
4:32.2 1,000m 2:16.1 139 777 26
4:30.7 1,000m 2:15.3 141 785 26
4:28.2 1,000m 2:14.1 145 799 26


Just trying to copy/paste from ErgData for the first time to see how it looks on the Forum.
Big 5K PB for me yesterday and shows I'm heading in the right direction. Could have gone faster too but still a bit wary when I go 5k and beyond.

Based on this what's a reasonable time to aim for when I try 10k for the first time, maybe next week?

[p_b82]

I use paul's law as a rough guide for me - lots of comments about how accurate it is, but just to get an idea it works for me, esp on the longer distances:

https://rowinggeek.com/pauls-law-calculator/

[Kerry1960]

Thanks for that link.

That implies 47:04 for 10k, based on 5k time so seems a good place to set the pacer and see if I can hold it/beat it.

[Dangerscouse]

I use paul's law as a rough guide for me - lots of comments about how accurate it is, but just to get an idea it works for me, esp on the longer distances:

https://rowinggeek.com/pauls-law-calculator/

I also find it fairly accurate, especially for the longer distances.

[mitchel674]

If you haven't done a 10k yet but feel you can row that distance, you would likely be able to hold 2:22 as a comfortable pace. See how you feel the last 1000m if you want to put some more pressure on.

[nick rockliff]

I use paul's law as a rough guide for me - lots of comments about how accurate it is, but just to get an idea it works for me, esp on the longer distances:

https://rowinggeek.com/pauls-law-calculator/

I also find it fairly accurate, especially for the longer distances.

Miles out for me.

[Sakly]

I use paul's law as a rough guide for me - lots of comments about how accurate it is, but just to get an idea it works for me, esp on the longer distances:

https://rowinggeek.com/pauls-law-calculator/

I also find it fairly accurate, especially for the longer distances.

Miles out for me.

Not miles, but also not really accurate for me.
I use +5s/split per doubled distance as a rough idea, when I never did a distance/time before.

[Dangerscouse]

Miles out for me.

You're a different breed from the rest of us

[Elizabeth]

Miles out for me.

You're a different breed from the rest of us

It really falls apart for me too, but my endurance is much stronger than my raw speed. (Working on the latter.) It's a decent place to start though. And when you get a few baseline times at different distances, my preferred tool is this one: http://www.freespiritsrowing.com/forum/ ... -predictor

[Sakly]

Miles out for me.

You're a different breed from the rest of us

It really falls apart for me too, but my endurance is much stronger than my raw speed. (Working on the latter.) It's a decent place to start though. And when you get a few baseline times at different distances, my preferred tool is this one: http://www.freespiritsrowing.com/forum/ ... -predictor

This estimator is even worse in accuracy for me.
Entering 500m and 2k PBs, which are the freshest I have, 5k and 10k are over a minute slower than my old PBs, which do not show my current state.
But hey, estimation is always not matching reality, this is why it's called estimation
And I have to say that for me also the longer distances work much better.

[Elizabeth]

You're a different breed from the rest of us

It really falls apart for me too, but my endurance is much stronger than my raw speed. (Working on the latter.) It's a decent place to start though. And when you get a few baseline times at different distances, my preferred tool is this one: http://www.freespiritsrowing.com/forum/ ... -predictor

This estimator is even worse in accuracy for me.
Entering 500m and 2k PBs, which are the freshest I have, 5k and 10k are over a minute slower than my old PBs, which do not show my current state.
But hey, estimation is always not matching reality, this is why it's called estimation
And I have to say that for me also the longer distances work much better.

I think it works better if you choose two distances that sandwich the distance you're trying to estimate. For example, I used it with a 2k and FM to get an estimated 30:00 pace and it was pretty on. But at the end of the day, estimates are just that - estimates.

[Sakly]

It really falls apart for me too, but my endurance is much stronger than my raw speed. (Working on the latter.) It's a decent place to start though. And when you get a few baseline times at different distances, my preferred tool is this one: http://www.freespiritsrowing.com/forum/ ... -predictor

This estimator is even worse in accuracy for me.
Entering 500m and 2k PBs, which are the freshest I have, 5k and 10k are over a minute slower than my old PBs, which do not show my current state.
But hey, estimation is always not matching reality, this is why it's called estimation
And I have to say that for me also the longer distances work much better.

I think it works better if you choose two distances that sandwich the distance you're trying to estimate. For example, I used it with a 2k and FM to get an estimated 30:00 pace and it was pretty on. But at the end of the day, estimates are just that - estimates.

My "problem" is, all my longer distance PBs are outdated and wouldn't be full effort times. Best example is the 10k from today - it was an AT session at r24 and already 2s faster than old PB
Same for HM. Last one PB'd, but at r20 harder steady state far from full effort.
If i would have a proper time for longer distances, you could be right.
I will give it a try again, when I updated my 60min/HM PB, as this is planned to end of season

[Dangerscouse]

I think it works better if you choose two distances that sandwich the distance you're trying to estimate. For example, I used it with a 2k and FM to get an estimated 30:00 pace and it was pretty on. But at the end of the day, estimates are just that - estimates.

Same here, and I think the 30 min estimate was about 20 metres less than my PB, albeit I'm still hoping to improve on it

I have used Paul's Law out of curiosity, but I've never used it for anything meaningful. I don't want to apply limits to what I could achieve, as I think my HM was almost two minutes slower as an estimate, but others were very close.

[Kerry1960]

As a newbie I'm improving rapidly now and can pretty much break any of my PBs whenever I want Great feeling. I've put off doing another 2k until this Sunday but the 3k I did from a couple of days ago gives me some confidence that I can break my current 2k PB of 08:23 this weekend.

12:59.5 3,000m 2:09.9 160 849 28 59
2:12.1 500m 2:12.1 152 822 27 86
2:12.6 500m 2:12.6 150 816 27 83
2:09.9 500m 2:09.9 160 849 28 86
2:09.0 500m 2:09.0 163 861 29 104
2:07.9 500m 2:07.9 167 875 29
2:07.8 500m 2:07.8 168 877 30


Looks like the heart monitor wasn't working correctly. Too low and looks like I pegged out after 2K!

Maybe see if I can do 6 mins for 1500m later today.