Great result!GlennUk wrote: ↑December 24th, 2022, 3:11 amNew 100m PB
I started training for the 100m sprint on 25th September, no really too sure what strategy to follow.
In the end i focussed on increasing my spm, starts and weights (DL/Squats/Upright rowing).
The biggest improvements in power/speed seem to have come his month.
My low pull has gone from 1:21.x (a rolling effort) to a solid 1:16.x from a standing start.
I have seen 805W on the PM5 once and high 790s a few times.
My spm have risen to an average of 49spm (over two 100m TT i did yesterday 15mins apart).
My pb has now dropped to 15.9s for the 100m (although the PM5 kindly rounds it up to 16.0) which puts me no.2 in the UK so far this season and tied at No.9 WW for my age/weight (verified times).
I am not done with this yet, will keep training over the next few weeks see if i can get faster.
New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log
-
- Marathon Poster
- Posts: 10720
- Joined: April 27th, 2014, 11:11 am
- Location: Liverpool, England
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Well done Glenn. Really good resultGlennUk wrote: ↑December 24th, 2022, 3:11 amMy pb has now dropped to 15.9s for the 100m (although the PM5 kindly rounds it up to 16.0) which puts me no.2 in the UK so far this season and tied at No.9 WW for my age/weight (verified times).
I am not done with this yet, will keep training over the next few weeks see if i can get faster.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
"You reap what you row"
Instagram: stuwenman
"You reap what you row"
Instagram: stuwenman
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Very nicely done Glenn - good to read you're now into the 1:16 low pull...and welcome to the 15.9 rounded up to 16 club! By coincidence I also had a couple of goes at this last night. First was 16.0 with a 1:17 LP, the second was slower...but that was after a 3x3333m SS session. What I do find surprising is how much better you need to be for each .1 at this level. I've have had what felt like much more powerful attempts than the one last night with several 1:16LPs...but in the end the same score. At your current rate of progress you'll blitz into the 15s very quickly. Best of luck with it.
Mike - 67 HWT 183
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Mike, thanks for the comments.MPx wrote: ↑December 24th, 2022, 12:11 pmVery nicely done Glenn - good to read you're now into the 1:16 low pull...and welcome to the 15.9 rounded up to 16 club! By coincidence I also had a couple of goes at this last night. First was 16.0 with a 1:17 LP, the second was slower...but that was after a 3x3333m SS session. What I do find surprising is how much better you need to be for each .1 at this level. I've have had what felt like much more powerful attempts than the one last night with several 1:16LPs...but in the end the same score. At your current rate of progress you'll blitz into the 15s very quickly. Best of luck with it.
One thing i have come to the conclusion doing this is that i need to increase my spm sigfnciantyl. Looking at those who do much better than me they use much higher spm than i do.
My thought is that its unlikely in any reasonable timeframe (if at all) am i going to be able to increase the power i deliver to the levels i suspect would need to be really good on the basis of the spm i use. My power may increase but it will take ages to be capable of delivering average 870w for a 100m to get me into the 14.xs bracket using a 'low' spm.
interesting though, ill keep going for a bi and see how i progress or not as the case may be.
Age 61, on 2/01/22 I rowed 115,972m 11hrs 17m 57s and raised £19k for https://www.havenshospices.org.uk/ Thanks for all the support
Donations to https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/ ... ctpossible
Donations to https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/ ... ctpossible
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Decided that as I felt pretty good, I'd go for a pb today - and while this is the first attempt and therefore a default pb, the fact that've managed to exceed my expectations by a decent margin feels like it's worthy to put up here.
My aim was an 8:30 - Paul's law for the hour reckoned that was my pace; I knew that I was going to fly and die to a degree having not done a 2k before & I def suffered with my form in the last third.
It didn't feel as tough some of the longer TT's I've done in terms of mental effort - I just lacked the strength/endurance to keep going in that middle-ish 800m.
For better or worse, it now means all my other times/distances can now be improved upon based on this effort tho!
My aim was an 8:30 - Paul's law for the hour reckoned that was my pace; I knew that I was going to fly and die to a degree having not done a 2k before & I def suffered with my form in the last third.
It didn't feel as tough some of the longer TT's I've done in terms of mental effort - I just lacked the strength/endurance to keep going in that middle-ish 800m.
For better or worse, it now means all my other times/distances can now be improved upon based on this effort tho!
Code: Select all
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M Hr
8:14.1 2,000m 2:03.5 186 939 29 173
1:36.1 400m 2:00.1 202 994 31 158
1:37.5 400m 2:01.8 193 965 29 172
1:41.3 400m 2:06.6 172 893 29 174
1:41.0 400m 2:06.2 174 898 29 178
1:38.2 400m 2:02.7 189 951 31 183
M 6'4 born:'82
PB's
'23: HM=1:36:08.0, 60'=13,702m
'24: 500m=1:37.7, 2k=7:44.80, 5k=20:42.9, 10k=42:13.1, FM=3:18:35.4, 30'=7,132m
'25: 6k: 25:05.4
Logbook
PB's
'23: HM=1:36:08.0, 60'=13,702m
'24: 500m=1:37.7, 2k=7:44.80, 5k=20:42.9, 10k=42:13.1, FM=3:18:35.4, 30'=7,132m
'25: 6k: 25:05.4
Logbook
-
- 10k Poster
- Posts: 1478
- Joined: March 16th, 2006, 4:35 pm
- Location: Amberley Village, OH
- Contact:
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Congratulations!p_b82 wrote: ↑January 4th, 2023, 1:01 pmDecided that as I felt pretty good, I'd go for a pb today - and while this is the first attempt and therefore a default pb, the fact that've managed to exceed my expectations by a decent margin feels like it's worthy to put up here.
My aim was an 8:30 - Paul's law for the hour reckoned that was my pace; I knew that I was going to fly and die to a degree having not done a 2k before & I def suffered with my form in the last third.
It didn't feel as tough some of the longer TT's I've done in terms of mental effort - I just lacked the strength/endurance to keep going in that middle-ish 800m.
For better or worse, it now means all my other times/distances can now be improved upon based on this effort tho!
Code: Select all
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M Hr 8:14.1 2,000m 2:03.5 186 939 29 173 1:36.1 400m 2:00.1 202 994 31 158 1:37.5 400m 2:01.8 193 965 29 172 1:41.3 400m 2:06.6 172 893 29 174 1:41.0 400m 2:06.2 174 898 29 178 1:38.2 400m 2:02.7 189 951 31 183
Good luck on improving the other times/distances.
David
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Nicep_b82 wrote: ↑January 4th, 2023, 1:01 pmDecided that as I felt pretty good, I'd go for a pb today - and while this is the first attempt and therefore a default pb, the fact that've managed to exceed my expectations by a decent margin feels like it's worthy to put up here.
My aim was an 8:30 - Paul's law for the hour reckoned that was my pace; I knew that I was going to fly and die to a degree having not done a 2k before & I def suffered with my form in the last third.
It didn't feel as tough some of the longer TT's I've done in terms of mental effort - I just lacked the strength/endurance to keep going in that middle-ish 800m.
For better or worse, it now means all my other times/distances can now be improved upon based on this effort tho!
Code: Select all
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M Hr 8:14.1 2,000m 2:03.5 186 939 29 173 1:36.1 400m 2:00.1 202 994 31 158 1:37.5 400m 2:01.8 193 965 29 172 1:41.3 400m 2:06.6 172 893 29 174 1:41.0 400m 2:06.2 174 898 29 178 1:38.2 400m 2:02.7 189 951 31 183
Better to deviate to the lower end
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log
-
- Marathon Poster
- Posts: 10720
- Joined: April 27th, 2014, 11:11 am
- Location: Liverpool, England
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Good stuff. The 2k is always horrible in the last third when paced properlyp_b82 wrote: ↑January 4th, 2023, 1:01 pmDecided that as I felt pretty good, I'd go for a pb today - and while this is the first attempt and therefore a default pb, the fact that've managed to exceed my expectations by a decent margin feels like it's worthy to put up here.
My aim was an 8:30 - Paul's law for the hour reckoned that was my pace; I knew that I was going to fly and die to a degree having not done a 2k before & I def suffered with my form in the last third.
It didn't feel as tough some of the longer TT's I've done in terms of mental effort - I just lacked the strength/endurance to keep going in that middle-ish 800m.
For better or worse, it now means all my other times/distances can now be improved upon based on this effort tho!
Code: Select all
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M Hr 8:14.1 2,000m 2:03.5 186 939 29 173 1:36.1 400m 2:00.1 202 994 31 158 1:37.5 400m 2:01.8 193 965 29 172 1:41.3 400m 2:06.6 172 893 29 174 1:41.0 400m 2:06.2 174 898 29 178 1:38.2 400m 2:02.7 189 951 31 183
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
"You reap what you row"
Instagram: stuwenman
"You reap what you row"
Instagram: stuwenman
-
- 6k Poster
- Posts: 719
- Joined: December 15th, 2017, 9:45 am
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Congrats! My lungs hurt looking at your splits. Given your goal was 8:30 and your 1st split was @2:00.1 pace, I can imagine your thinking as it progressed through the 2k. Great job finishing strong.p_b82 wrote: ↑January 4th, 2023, 1:01 pmDecided that as I felt pretty good, I'd go for a pb today - and while this is the first attempt and therefore a default pb, the fact that've managed to exceed my expectations by a decent margin feels like it's worthy to put up here.
My aim was an 8:30 - Paul's law for the hour reckoned that was my pace; I knew that I was going to fly and die to a degree having not done a 2k before & I def suffered with my form in the last third.
It didn't feel as tough some of the longer TT's I've done in terms of mental effort - I just lacked the strength/endurance to keep going in that middle-ish 800m.
For better or worse, it now means all my other times/distances can now be improved upon based on this effort tho!
Code: Select all
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M Hr 8:14.1 2,000m 2:03.5 186 939 29 173 1:36.1 400m 2:00.1 202 994 31 158 1:37.5 400m 2:01.8 193 965 29 172 1:41.3 400m 2:06.6 172 893 29 174 1:41.0 400m 2:06.2 174 898 29 178 1:38.2 400m 2:02.7 189 951 31 183
Male, January 1971
Neptune Beach, FL
on way back to LWT
Neptune Beach, FL
on way back to LWT
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Excellent. Now that you have the baseline you can go from there and pace accordingly - have to aim for sub 8:00 in due time. The 2K is a different mental challenge in that you don't hurt as long but hurt worse - a ot of people find it a much harder experience than a longer TT while some (sounds like you) can deal with it better than a long TT. Knowing how hard you can push takes some experimenting and that's why having this baseline is important.p_b82 wrote: ↑January 4th, 2023, 1:01 pmDecided that as I felt pretty good, I'd go for a pb today - and while this is the first attempt and therefore a default pb, the fact that've managed to exceed my expectations by a decent margin feels like it's worthy to put up here.
My aim was an 8:30 - Paul's law for the hour reckoned that was my pace; I knew that I was going to fly and die to a degree having not done a 2k before & I def suffered with my form in the last third.
It didn't feel as tough some of the longer TT's I've done in terms of mental effort - I just lacked the strength/endurance to keep going in that middle-ish 800m.
For better or worse, it now means all my other times/distances can now be improved upon based on this effort tho!
Code: Select all
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M Hr 8:14.1 2,000m 2:03.5 186 939 29 173 1:36.1 400m 2:00.1 202 994 31 158 1:37.5 400m 2:01.8 193 965 29 172 1:41.3 400m 2:06.6 172 893 29 174 1:41.0 400m 2:06.2 174 898 29 178 1:38.2 400m 2:02.7 189 951 31 183
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41
-
- 10k Poster
- Posts: 1375
- Joined: June 21st, 2021, 7:12 pm
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
congratulations Glenn! I'd like to try to improve my 100 too and feel my start is the biggest issue....what do your first 3-4 strokes look like?GlennUk wrote: ↑December 24th, 2022, 3:11 amNew 100m PB
I started training for the 100m sprint on 25th September, no really too sure what strategy to follow.
In the end i focussed on increasing my spm, starts and weights (DL/Squats/Upright rowing).
The biggest improvements in power/speed seem to have come his month.
My low pull has gone from 1:21.x (a rolling effort) to a solid 1:16.x from a standing start.
I have seen 805W on the PM5 once and high 790s a few times.
My spm have risen to an average of 49spm (over two 100m TT i did yesterday 15mins apart).
My pb has now dropped to 15.9s for the 100m (although the PM5 kindly rounds it up to 16.0) which puts me no.2 in the UK so far this season and tied at No.9 WW for my age/weight (verified times).
I am not done with this yet, will keep training over the next few weeks see if i can get faster.
M/52/6ft/86kg
took up rowing during pandemic
500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m
took up rowing during pandemic
500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m
-
- 10k Poster
- Posts: 1375
- Joined: June 21st, 2021, 7:12 pm
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
congratulations on the big PR! And well done for bringing it home with an acceleration after the blip in the middlep_b82 wrote: ↑January 4th, 2023, 1:01 pmDecided that as I felt pretty good, I'd go for a pb today - and while this is the first attempt and therefore a default pb, the fact that've managed to exceed my expectations by a decent margin feels like it's worthy to put up here.
My aim was an 8:30 - Paul's law for the hour reckoned that was my pace; I knew that I was going to fly and die to a degree having not done a 2k before & I def suffered with my form in the last third.
It didn't feel as tough some of the longer TT's I've done in terms of mental effort - I just lacked the strength/endurance to keep going in that middle-ish 800m.
For better or worse, it now means all my other times/distances can now be improved upon based on this effort tho!
Code: Select all
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M Hr 8:14.1 2,000m 2:03.5 186 939 29 173 1:36.1 400m 2:00.1 202 994 31 158 1:37.5 400m 2:01.8 193 965 29 172 1:41.3 400m 2:06.6 172 893 29 174 1:41.0 400m 2:06.2 174 898 29 178 1:38.2 400m 2:02.7 189 951 31 183
M/52/6ft/86kg
took up rowing during pandemic
500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m
took up rowing during pandemic
500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Thanks all!
I've built up to 1:55@30 before at the end of a long time trial, so the 2:00 didn't feel that difficult on fresh everything - looking at the log my first 5s were 1:51@33, before dropping down to 2:03 as I tried to reign my exuberance in. I knew that there would soon be a cheque being cashed and I doubted that I could pay it.
I expected to fade harder and faster tbh - so I was actually kinda pleased that my average was below my target pace in the dip! (although annoyed there was a dip all the same)
It may also help that on the longer rows, I tend to target the last 2k as my "run to the finish" so in my mind it's a kinda happy target - rather than one of dread.
There's an 8:00 in me with a bit better pacing and a little more consistency; I reckon doing a little more short distance work and I'd be there. But I'm going to back to the longer stuff for a bit - as I don't want to get sucked in to chasing the 2k - I've unfinished business with my HM time...
It was a lung burster alright - they're still a bit tickly today, it really stirred things up for sure; Took me quite a while to get myself up off the erg afterwards tooRayOfSunshine wrote: ↑January 4th, 2023, 4:56 pm
Congrats! My lungs hurt looking at your splits. Given your goal was 8:30 and your 1st split was @2:00.1 pace, I can imagine your thinking as it progressed through the 2k. Great job finishing strong.
I've built up to 1:55@30 before at the end of a long time trial, so the 2:00 didn't feel that difficult on fresh everything - looking at the log my first 5s were 1:51@33, before dropping down to 2:03 as I tried to reign my exuberance in. I knew that there would soon be a cheque being cashed and I doubted that I could pay it.
I expected to fade harder and faster tbh - so I was actually kinda pleased that my average was below my target pace in the dip! (although annoyed there was a dip all the same)
I think the 2k is so short in comparison, that the hurt for me is marginal - legs/arms were dead/tired but not sore, back was in excellent shape, butt not complaining, no sweat formed, Hr manageable, lungs only starting to burst in the last couple of mins. The last 10 mins of the hour was torture in comparison.KeithT wrote: ↑January 4th, 2023, 5:13 pm
Excellent. Now that you have the baseline you can go from there and pace accordingly - have to aim for sub 8:00 in due time. The 2K is a different mental challenge in that you don't hurt as long but hurt worse - a ot of people find it a much harder experience than a longer TT while some (sounds like you) can deal with it better than a long TT. Knowing how hard you can push takes some experimenting and that's why having this baseline is important.
It may also help that on the longer rows, I tend to target the last 2k as my "run to the finish" so in my mind it's a kinda happy target - rather than one of dread.
There's an 8:00 in me with a bit better pacing and a little more consistency; I reckon doing a little more short distance work and I'd be there. But I'm going to back to the longer stuff for a bit - as I don't want to get sucked in to chasing the 2k - I've unfinished business with my HM time...
M 6'4 born:'82
PB's
'23: HM=1:36:08.0, 60'=13,702m
'24: 500m=1:37.7, 2k=7:44.80, 5k=20:42.9, 10k=42:13.1, FM=3:18:35.4, 30'=7,132m
'25: 6k: 25:05.4
Logbook
PB's
'23: HM=1:36:08.0, 60'=13,702m
'24: 500m=1:37.7, 2k=7:44.80, 5k=20:42.9, 10k=42:13.1, FM=3:18:35.4, 30'=7,132m
'25: 6k: 25:05.4
Logbook
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
#CTC - 1k TT
Not ideal conditions, surprisingly felt the 60min session from yesterday in my legs and back, but I had planned to go for the CTC first try this week. Also training plan for the week was disrupted as the 60min row was planned for Tuesday...
~3k warmup
1k TT:
-10.6s vs old PB
Unfortunately PM5 showed 3:13.9, but ergdata gave me the 3:14 flat
Hopefully I get another attempt this month.
Not ideal conditions, surprisingly felt the 60min session from yesterday in my legs and back, but I had planned to go for the CTC first try this week. Also training plan for the week was disrupted as the 60min row was planned for Tuesday...
~3k warmup
1k TT:
Code: Select all
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M HR
3:14.0 1,000m 1:37.0 383 1619 32 167
0:38.5 200m 1:36.2 393 1650 33 156
0:38.6 200m 1:36.5 389 1640 31 168
0:39.1 200m 1:37.7 375 1589 31 170
0:39.0 200m 1:37.5 378 1599 34 171
0:38.7 200m 1:36.7 386 1630 34 172
Unfortunately PM5 showed 3:13.9, but ergdata gave me the 3:14 flat
Hopefully I get another attempt this month.
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log
-
- Marathon Poster
- Posts: 10720
- Joined: April 27th, 2014, 11:11 am
- Location: Liverpool, England
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
That's more like what I was expecting from you. Great row. Were the 1:37s due to feeling like too much of a struggle, or a decision to back off and attack near the end?Sakly wrote: ↑January 5th, 2023, 6:32 am#CTC - 1k TT
Not ideal conditions, surprisingly felt the 60min session from yesterday in my legs and back, but I had planned to go for the CTC first try this week. Also training plan for the week was disrupted as the 60min row was planned for Tuesday...
~3k warmup
1k TT:-10.6s vs old PBCode: Select all
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M HR 3:14.0 1,000m 1:37.0 383 1619 32 167 0:38.5 200m 1:36.2 393 1650 33 156 0:38.6 200m 1:36.5 389 1640 31 168 0:39.1 200m 1:37.7 375 1589 31 170 0:39.0 200m 1:37.5 378 1599 34 171 0:38.7 200m 1:36.7 386 1630 34 172
Unfortunately PM5 showed 3:13.9, but ergdata gave me the 3:14 flat
Hopefully I get another attempt this month.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
"You reap what you row"
Instagram: stuwenman
"You reap what you row"
Instagram: stuwenman