Pondering the Beginner Pete Plan

[justaute]

Just completed my very first 7k in week 5. Man, I don't know how you people do +10k. The funny thing is that I can easily ride my bike (outdoors/gravel) for 2 hours at +16 MPH.

[Ombrax]

Just completed my very first 7k in week 5. Man, I don't know how you people do +10k. The funny thing is that I can easily ride my bike (outdoors/gravel) for 2 hours at +16 MPH.

This isn't the only issue, but you do need to compare the wattage for each activity.

Having said that, erging is way harder than "on the road" cycling.

[mitchel674]

Just completed my very first 7k in week 5. Man, I don't know how you people do +10k. The funny thing is that I can easily ride my bike (outdoors/gravel) for 2 hours at +16 MPH.

What is it that's got you concerned. Is it boredom? Fatigue?

For boredom, you need to find what works for you on the lengthening rows. I listen to music. Some like podcasts.

For fatigue, you need to be focusing on efficiency and relaxation with these long rows. They should not be exhausting.

[justaute]

Just completed my very first 7k in week 5. Man, I don't know how you people do +10k. The funny thing is that I can easily ride my bike (outdoors/gravel) for 2 hours at +16 MPH.

What is it that's got you concerned. Is it boredom? Fatigue?

For boredom, you need to find what works for you on the lengthening rows. I listen to music. Some like podcasts.

For fatigue, you need to be focusing on efficiency and relaxation with these long rows. They should not be exhausting.

Thanks. Appreciated the input. I think it's a bit of both. I get bored easily, which is why I have a difficult cycling indoors. As a former D1, quick-twitch athlete, and never liked endurance, I'm trying to build up my endurance -- one of the main reasons for purchasing a rowerg. I can usually out-spring my cycling buddies, but fail miserably for anything longer than an hour. LOL. Did my first 65-mile gravel race last year -- took me 6 hours and kicked my butt.

As far as long rows, I'm trying to manage my heart-rate, stroke/minute, and stroke distance. My first 7k row data are: 34:29.2 total, 2:27.8 pace, 20 S/M, and 136 HR.

[justaute]

Just completed my very first 7k in week 5. Man, I don't know how you people do +10k. The funny thing is that I can easily ride my bike (outdoors/gravel) for 2 hours at +16 MPH.

This isn't the only issue, but you do need to compare the wattage for each activity.

Having said that, erging is way harder than "on the road" cycling.

I'm aware. Erging definitely feels more difficult, unless I'm climbing here in Utah. ha

[RayOfSunshine]

Just completed my very first 7k in week 5. Man, I don't know how you people do +10k. The funny thing is that I can easily ride my bike (outdoors/gravel) for 2 hours at +16 MPH.

What is it that's got you concerned. Is it boredom? Fatigue?

For boredom, you need to find what works for you on the lengthening rows. I listen to music. Some like podcasts.

For fatigue, you need to be focusing on efficiency and relaxation with these long rows. They should not be exhausting.

Thanks. Appreciated the input. I think it's a bit of both. I get bored easily, which is why I have a difficult cycling indoors. As a former D1, quick-twitch athlete, and never liked endurance, I'm trying to build up my endurance -- one of the main reasons for purchasing a rowerg.

As far as long rows, I'm trying to manage my heart-rate, stroke/minute, and stroke distance. My first 7k row data are: 34:29.2 total, 2:27.8 pace, 20 S/M, and 136 HR.

I was partially in the same boat when I started, but I was 80lbs above college days and recovering from alcoholism. I have a TV on the wall and watch weather or old soccer matches (volume off) with music on. It definitely took time to re-wire my brain. I set some short-term and long term goals. My first goal was to get through the BPP doing all 5 sessions each week. Years later, I'm going through the BPP on a skierg.

One thing that took me a while to realize was that fast-twitch athletes actually perform better with a lower DF. There's a video on it somewhere. I'm usually between 110-120 unless I'm sprinting.

[RayOfSunshine]

BPP 14.1
Target 2:18.5 for the 1st 7500, then speed up. I pushed quite a bit to get it below 46'.

[justaute]

BPP 14.1
Target 2:18.5 for the 1st 7500, then speed up. I pushed quite a bit to get it below 46'.

Very interesting. That S/M is very high. My Df is usually around 122, with the damper setting at 5.

Thank you for sharing.

[Sakly]

BPP 14.1
Target 2:18.5 for the 1st 7500, then speed up. I pushed quite a bit to get it below 46'.

Very interesting. That S/M is very high. My Df is usually around 122, with the damper setting at 5.

Thank you for sharing.

The rate is quite normal for skierg. Not comparable to rowergs

[RayOfSunshine]

BPP 14.1
Target 2:18.5 for the 1st 7500, then speed up. I pushed quite a bit to get it below 46'.

Very interesting. That S/M is very high. My Df is usually around 122, with the damper setting at 5.

Thank you for sharing.

The rate is quite normal for skierg. Not comparable to rowergs

I just looked back at a comparable 10k on the rower and it was 25

DF are way different as well.

[Sakly]

Very interesting. That S/M is very high. My Df is usually around 122, with the damper setting at 5.

Thank you for sharing.

The rate is quite normal for skierg. Not comparable to rowergs

I just looked back at a comparable 10k on the rower and it was 25

DF are way different as well.

Makes sense as the power transfer is completely different

[btswims]

Week 7 Day 2 -

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	HR
13:13.2	3,500m	1:53.3	241	1127	25	175
1:54.1	500m	1:54.1	236	1110	25	167
1:56.0	500m	1:56.0	224	1071	24	171
1:55.5	500m	1:55.5	227	1081	24	173
1:53.7	500m	1:53.7	238	1119	25	175
1:51.8	500m	1:51.8	250	1161	26	178
1:51.9	500m	1:51.9	250	1159	27	179
1:50.3	500m	1:50.3	261	1197	28	182
r2,186m

My DF was 100, I lowered it a few weeks ago from around 115 to get a lower hr during the ss pieces. Any reason to adjust it? Separately, took two videos any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b6c2bdf2n5uk6 ... 2.mkv?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5dkj1ftb9r3xt ... 5.mkv?dl=0

[RayOfSunshine]

Week 7 Day 2 -


My DF was 100, I lowered it a few weeks ago from around 115 to get a lower hr during the ss pieces. Any reason to adjust it? Separately, took two videos any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b6c2bdf2n5uk6 ... 2.mkv?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5dkj1ftb9r3xt ... 5.mkv?dl=0

I'm not sure what you're asking with your question.

On the videos, they look good to me. I've still never taken one of myself. I'd suggest starting a new thread in the forum and ask for feedback from the pros. This forum provides incredible feedback!

[RayOfSunshine]

BPP 14.2 on the Ski - very pleased.

I've set my sights on a sub 45 10k. I've got about a minute (3s off pace) to shave off. 53 sessions (10.5 weeks) to go, so I'm pushing hard on all sessions unless it says to back off.

I started out the final interval wanting to average under 2:14s, then 2:10s (after about 750). In the final 6-700, I realized an 8:30 2k was possible. That was probably 95% effort.

[RayOfSunshine]

Ski BPP 14.3
On track